The Coming Canon ‘Retro’ Camera to Use Latest 32.5MP Sensor

My guesses are the 28 2.8 and the 45 or 50 1.8. Non-IS, non-macro, classic focal lengths budget lenses.
Yeah I also thought about the 28 STM as alternative to the 24 STM; but I'm totally guessing, maybe they'll give us just the 50 STM and and a cheap zoom like the 24-105, or if they want to go expensive the 28-70 STM but I don't know, I don't see too many retro lenses purchases if they redress 1000€ lenses.
But a 24/28, 45/50 and 85 retro triad would be cool, before sharp f2.8 std zooms you were doing and entire wedding with those three focals.
 
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I continue to dream though that we one day will get a Canon P style retro camera
It's funny that you mention that because I have been wondering how well a P or Canonet-styled retro Powershot might do given the resurgence in interest in that style of camera lately. Heck you might even be able to get away with making it a rangefinder at that size point, LOL. But in all seriousness, I think that a retro compact might be a good seller too. Maybe moreso than a retro APS-C camera.

I am looking at probably purchasing an R6mkIII here in the spring. The main reason I am leaning toward the mkIII over the very attractive discounts on the mkII is the fact that I want to step into a camera with IBIS, but I am looking at the extra resolution as a way of taking over the photography use scenarios of both my R8 and R10. I've given some thought to what to do about a second body, whether it is keep the R10 (something is going to have to be retained for video work anyhow, but that's another story) or something else. A retro-styled RE-1 or whatever it ends up being called that uses the R6mkIII sensor could be a good "have my cake and eat it too" second camera - more compact form factor for some portability, without surrendering anything meaningful in the image quality. Being a retro camera would be a fun little perk. But I have a pair of Mamiya C220s that I am not letting get dusty, so my retro itch is fully scratched.
 
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All Digic X powered cameras have deep learning algorithms loaded into them.
Only two cameras actually have an extra processing unit dedicated to AI, the R5 Mark II and the R1.

My comment was based on the extra AI chip for the R5-2/R1.

And how exactly is that a problem..?

God I hate this single level quoting... I've no clue what you're referring to.

I would expect nothing less than R8 to R6 performance level for $2000. What else would we be paying for, the sensor of a R6 Mark III with R100 features level? That’s worth $800 to $1000 at best.

Who knows what combination of features Canon will decide belong in their retro camera.

Because it performs like a lens from the 1990’s to early 2000’s.
Do you meant to say that the RF 45mm doesn't need software to correct its image? Otherwise I'm perplexed about what's special about lenses from the 1990s-2000s.

The R&D is already done, so removing it from a camera won't reduce costs. There is no extra chip used at all, except on the R5/R1. The rest of the cameras are just using normal Digic X. Actually designing and creating a new chip for a camera selling in limited numbers would increase cost, not reduce it.

I was thinking of the R1/R5-2 (ball tracking, etc.)

Be aware that not all "DIGIC <foo>" are the same. The "X" is more symbolic of a platform or capability, it isn't a single chip design that gets re-used. Why do I say that? Because it is well established that Canon have used the same DIGIC name across multiple camera lineups that have very different chips when you do a tear down. What I'm saying is that DIGIC X might be a 8 core x 2GHz CPU in the R5-2 but in the R50, it might be 4x1.8 + 4x1.6. Don't take it for granted that all DIGIC X chips are the same. There are good technical reasons for why that wouldn't be the case.
 
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Do you meant to say that the RF 45mm doesn't need software to correct its image? Otherwise I'm perplexed about what's special about lenses from the 1990s-2000s.
I think the implication is, while the average image quality (probably especially sharpness) of lenses is much better now, the RF 45 is has a number of flaws that were more common in the past (but I don't know how true that is).
 
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If it were $1500 and essentially an R8ii with more resolution but minus some video features, it’d make a nice second camera for me. $2000 would be a bit steep. You can get a new R5i for only $350 more right now
 
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Accepting FD lenses? ;)

I'd love that 32MP sensor in an AE-1 body BUT they need to do more than "hey this is so hipster!"
First of all it needs to be CHEAP! 2k in NOT cheap. Make it 1-1.2K and make it light, optimized for street and travel. No flipping lcd, no bullshit, just a great camera. Good sensor, good evf, good AF, good price. Fck video and bluetooth, ***, all that stuff. If it helps, even drop the backside lcd!!
 
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Accepting FD lenses? ;)

I'd love that 32MP sensor in an AE-1 body BUT they need to do more than "hey this is so hipster!"
First of all it needs to be CHEAP! 2k in NOT cheap. Make it 1-1.2K and make it light, optimized for street and travel. No flipping lcd, no bullshit, just a great camera. Good sensor, good evf, good AF, good price. Fck video and bluetooth, ***, all that stuff. If it helps, even drop the backside lcd!!
It will have a flipping LCD. 100 per cent. And I doubt if it will be 'cheap'. It is meant for people who want to make a statement. They will pay.
 
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Why is that? Canon sells more single memory card cameras than it does with two and it sells relatively few large battery pack cameras.


Why is everyone saying 45mm is a retro lens? Was it released with the AE-1?
My first SLR was an AE-1. Bought it with the 50 1.4 which at the time was not a bad lens. However, after getting a 35-70 it hardly ever got used. So the two lenses mentioned are very likely candidates, though I was surprised that the RF45 was introduced rather than a 50. Suppose Canon want 50 to appear pro? Still have those bits of kit.
 
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Count me in! I'd love to see it sell for 50% of the R6III price. And yes finally a camera for photographers, not videographers. People that don't need autofocus gimics where the camera takes the photo for you (almost.)

Imagine if it outsold the R6III...
Combine such a camera with a long tele and you know why the industry moved away from the 60s- 70s design to an improved ergonomy e.g. with a pronounced grip. So I guess the retro camera will be an additional market for those who want such a style. Personally I prefer to grab one of my old cameras and load it with a film when I want that feeling, because this is the real thing. But that's my personal approach, I think Canon should bring out such a camera and make those who like such a style happy.
 
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My first SLR was an AE-1. Bought it with the 50 1.4 which at the time was not a bad lens. However, after getting a 35-70 it hardly ever got used. So the two lenses mentioned are very likely candidates, though I was surprised that the RF45 was introduced rather than a 50. Suppose Canon want 50 to appear pro? Still have those bits of kit.
Have the same AE-1 and 1.4/50 combo inherited from my father. My first SLR war a Nikon FM-2, still have it - in fact, we have three FM-2 bodies in our household, my wife still shoots with Nikon gear. The FM-2 had Nikon's classic quality that is partly gone today. Because my wife lost any trust in her digital Nikon gear after many repairs (we shoot a lot of wildlife), she only took her FM-2 to Siberia, where she had an engineering job over Xmas a couple of years ago. The FM-2 had not problems to work at -40 °C (-40 °F), even its small battery for the meter (the only electronic part of that SLR) worked w/o any problems. This is a camera from an era when Nikon was famous for really rugged pro quality.
 
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Love it and looking forward to it. And I will likely buy it. I continue to dream though that we one day will get a Canon P style retro camera or even new school camera based off the the Canon P. I think it would be a big hit with jazzy FujiFilm and Leica shooter types….of which I am as well, but much uglier. 😂
I doubt Canon will bring out a real rangefinder camera like the famous P with a digital sensor. The mechanics of such rangefinders is complex and it is hard to revive their production when the knowledge is gone. Nikon really struggled when they revived their Nikon S series with the "S3 2000" 25 years ago. It was very costly to produce, so its price was up to Leicas, it was more a collector's item. This S3 was a film camera, of course, but a digital version would need basically the same mechanics. So the only option would be a pseudo-rangefinder design like that of the digital Fujis - not really attractive for photographers who still are used to real rangefinder cameras. But I guess Canon could sell such rangefinder retro style cameras, so why not.
 
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I doubt Canon will bring out a real rangefinder camera like the famous P with a digital sensor. The mechanics of such rangefinders is complex and it is hard to revive their production when the knowledge is gone. Nikon really struggled when they revived their Nikon S series with the "S3 2000" 25 years ago. It was very costly to produce, so its price was up to Leicas, it was more a collector's item. This S3 was a film camera, of course, but a digital version would need basically the same mechanics. So the only option would be a pseudo-rangefinder design like that of the digital Fujis - not really attractive for photographers who still are used to real rangefinder cameras. But I guess Canon could sell such rangefinder retro style cameras, so why not.
Canon, would you please listen to "JustaCanonuser"?
But with a Leica M bayonet!
 
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