Canon 120mp DSLR Information

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Canon’s development announcement of a 120mp DSLR took the photography world by surprise, as we expected some incremental increases in resolution, but more than doubling the 50.6mp resolution of the Canon EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R is quite the jump.</p>
<p>A lot is being made about the APS-H sensor in the prototype currently on display at the Canon EXPO. We wouldn’t read too much into it, as Canon always uses APS-H for their high resolution prototype sensors. The likelihood that Canon would bring back the APS-H sensor size in a consumer EOS product is between nil and none.</p>
<p>More information on the 120mp DSLR:</p>
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<li>RAW files are 210mb</li>
<li>Camera ID in the EXIF is: EOS Y038</li>
<li>Camera prototype is only working at ISO 100</li>
</ul>
 
ajfotofilmagem said:
The prototype camera works only at ISO 100? ???

This is perfect for those who want to underexpose 5 stops, and lift shadows in post production. ::) ;D
*lol*
AND... is will be definetly delivering best performance @ base ISO as desired by the same bunch.

RAW files are 210mb
Oh yeah... we'll need a $3k+ pp monster or have a lot of time to get some coffee while waiting for process.
Not me. I'll take convenience over paramount paramount resolution.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
Canon’s development announcement of a 120mp DSLR took the photography world by surprise, as we expected some incremental increases in resolution, but more than doubling the 50.6mp resolution of the Canon EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R is quite the jump.

This is all about pushing the technological boundaries of the resolution that can be achieved with a working camera.

Downstream I see this as a good thing for all models to be released in maybe the next 2-7 years.
 
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The whole thing is just an elaborate practical joke on DXO.

If you downsample from 140MP to 8MP (DXO Print 'measurement') you 'gain' a minimum of 6 stops. Even if they used the same sensor tech they currently have that is measured at around 10 stops, that takes the 'new' sensor to an unassailable 16+ stops of DR, from a 14 bit file. ::)
 
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And some people thought 50MP was insane... 70MB RAW files is plenty enough for me. I can't even begin to fathom the headaches at 210MB. I get why Canon is doing it though. They're showing off they have the capacity to produce it and that's a good thing. The question then becomes would they ever produce such a sensor in a mass marketed DSLR body or in reality does this become a highly specialized weapon of choice for a very limited number of industrial and scientific applications. This seems more like a giant tease to be able to say, "Yeah we can make it. And yeah, we can even put it in a 5 series body. How ya like me now?"
 
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tomscott said:
Is there a reason Canon develops prototype sensors in APS-H and doesn't support it in a consumer product? Seems a bit of a bad habit..

There have been loads of these canon sensor tech announcement and nothing really materialises.

how do you know?

canon uses these R&D sensors to trial out different readout methods, pixels and geometries.

that information can easily feed into any number of real life sensors without us ever knowing about it.

fun fact .. on the APS-C size, the QE of canon's sensors in one generation jumped up nearly 40%.. that R&D came from somewhere.

APS-H is the largest "single" pass sensor you can make using standard IC fabrication equipment, so it's probably what's available in the lab.

they want to make it large, because of the signalling, heat, noise,etc issues that come about with larger sensors, however it's more cost effective for R&D than a full frame sensor.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
Canon’s development announcement of a 120mp DSLR took the photography world by surprise, as we expected some incremental increases in resolution, but more than doubling the 50.6mp resolution of the Canon EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R is quite the jump.</p>
<p>A lot is being made about the APS-H sensor in the prototype currently on display at the Canon EXPO. We wouldn’t read too much into it, as Canon always uses APS-H for their high resolution prototype sensors. The likelihood that Canon would bring back the APS-H sensor size in a consumer EOS product is between nil and none.</p>
<p>More information on the 120mp DSLR:</p>
<ul>
<li>RAW files are 210mb</li>
<li>Camera ID in the EXIF is: EOS Y038</li>
<li>Camera prototype is only working at ISO 100</li>
</ul>

the 210MB raw files do not make any sense.

canon's compression usually yields around 1.1 to 1.5 bytes per pixel in the CR2 file size - so it should be around 140-170MB in size, not 210MB.

210MB smells like the uncompressed size - or 16 bit readout.
 
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rrcphoto said:
Canon Rumors said:
Canon’s development announcement of a 120mp DSLR took the photography world by surprise, as we expected some incremental increases in resolution, but more than doubling the 50.6mp resolution of the Canon EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R is quite the jump.</p>
<p>A lot is being made about the APS-H sensor in the prototype currently on display at the Canon EXPO. We wouldn’t read too much into it, as Canon always uses APS-H for their high resolution prototype sensors. The likelihood that Canon would bring back the APS-H sensor size in a consumer EOS product is between nil and none.</p>
<p>More information on the 120mp DSLR:</p>
<ul>
<li>RAW files are 210mb</li>
<li>Camera ID in the EXIF is: EOS Y038</li>
<li>Camera prototype is only working at ISO 100</li>
</ul>

the 210MB raw files do not make any sense.

canon's compression usually yields around 1.1 to 1.5 bytes per pixel in the CR2 file size - so it should be around 140-170MB in size, not 210MB.

210MB smells like the uncompressed size - or 16 bit readout.

120Mpixels x 14 bits / 8 bits = 210MB
Almost certainly 14 bit uncompressed....
 
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rrcphoto said:
Canon Rumors said:
Canon’s development announcement of a 120mp DSLR took the photography world by surprise, as we expected some incremental increases in resolution, but more than doubling the 50.6mp resolution of the Canon EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R is quite the jump.</p>
<p>A lot is being made about the APS-H sensor in the prototype currently on display at the Canon EXPO. We wouldn’t read too much into it, as Canon always uses APS-H for their high resolution prototype sensors. The likelihood that Canon would bring back the APS-H sensor size in a consumer EOS product is between nil and none.</p>
<p>More information on the 120mp DSLR:</p>
<ul>
<li>RAW files are 210mb</li>
<li>Camera ID in the EXIF is: EOS Y038</li>
<li>Camera prototype is only working at ISO 100</li>
</ul>

the 210MB raw files do not make any sense.

canon's compression usually yields around 1.1 to 1.5 bytes per pixel in the CR2 file size - so it should be around 140-170MB in size, not 210MB.

210MB smells like the uncompressed size - or 16 bit readout.
120 Megapixels on APS-H scales to 190 Megapixels on full frame. now we're getting there.
 
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BeenThere said:
rrcphoto said:
Canon Rumors said:
Canon’s development announcement of a 120mp DSLR took the photography world by surprise, as we expected some incremental increases in resolution, but more than doubling the 50.6mp resolution of the Canon EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R is quite the jump.
A lot is being made about the APS-H sensor in the prototype currently on display at the Canon EXPO. We wouldn’t read too much into it, as Canon always uses APS-H for their high resolution prototype sensors. The likelihood that Canon would bring back the APS-H sensor size in a consumer EOS product is between nil and none.
More information on the 120mp DSLR:

RAW files are 210mb
Camera ID in the EXIF is: EOS Y038
Camera prototype is only working at ISO 100

the 210MB raw files do not make any sense.

canon's compression usually yields around 1.1 to 1.5 bytes per pixel in the CR2 file size - so it should be around 140-170MB in size, not 210MB.

210MB smells like the uncompressed size - or 16 bit readout.
120 Megapixels on APS-H scales to 190 Megapixels on full frame. now we're getting there.
Too bad Medium Format doesn't reach 1 Gigapixels. :(
 
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Don Haines said:
rrcphoto said:
Canon Rumors said:
Canon’s development announcement of a 120mp DSLR took the photography world by surprise, as we expected some incremental increases in resolution, but more than doubling the 50.6mp resolution of the Canon EOS 5DS and EOS 5DS R is quite the jump.</p>
<p>A lot is being made about the APS-H sensor in the prototype currently on display at the Canon EXPO. We wouldn’t read too much into it, as Canon always uses APS-H for their high resolution prototype sensors. The likelihood that Canon would bring back the APS-H sensor size in a consumer EOS product is between nil and none.</p>
<p>More information on the 120mp DSLR:</p>
<ul>
<li>RAW files are 210mb</li>
<li>Camera ID in the EXIF is: EOS Y038</li>
<li>Camera prototype is only working at ISO 100</li>
</ul>

the 210MB raw files do not make any sense.

canon's compression usually yields around 1.1 to 1.5 bytes per pixel in the CR2 file size - so it should be around 140-170MB in size, not 210MB.

210MB smells like the uncompressed size - or 16 bit readout.

120Mpixels x 14 bits / 8 bits = 210MB
Almost certainly 14 bit uncompressed....

that was myu thought, however the CR2 was never a non-compressed raw from my recollection.
 
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Anything focal length limited is going to "need" whatever amount of pixel density you can throw at it.

Not to mention we already have groups of people stitching together Gigapixel landscapes. They're going to go bonkers for a 120MP body (probably best combined with the 300f2.8ISII).
Yes, there are people who shoot wide angle landscapes with telephoto lenses.
http://360gigapixels.com/london-320-gigapixel-panorama/
This London Panorama was shot at 800mm with a 7D.
 
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