Just give me an M6 Mii with a built in EVF and I’ll be happy. I don’t care what you call it.
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The most interesting thing about these specifications is that indirectly they seem to confirm that there is a second higher specification (and price), M series in the pipeline, the much rumoured M5 MkII or M7 as it has been dubbed. The existing M50 is Canon's best selling mirrorless camera to date and in part because it is very competively priced so this MkII version is slotting into the same market segment with 'improvements' significant to encourage upgraders and new customers but no more. This indicates that there will be an all singing and dancing higher spec camera which will be at a much higher price point in the market.
me too. i could effectively replace two cameras with that one.Just give me an M6 Mii with a built in EVF and I’ll be happy. I don’t care what you call it.
I hope you're right, but it could also indicate that Canon is releasing a minor upgrade to the M50 as a cash cow while it sunsets the M and shifts all significant new development effort to the RF mount.
Did I? Can't say I did .. but dial back the judgement a bit from 11
Canon rarely raises prices of it's entry level cameras - canon competes in this segment on PRICE. They always have. So if the M50 was sub $700, there's a good chance the M50 Mark II would be sub $700. See how that works?
I've mentioned this before: The M50 sold well because it was pretty: "pretty good" "pretty cheap" "pretty small" "pretty light"
Secondly, there's certainly room for improvement around video - none of that needs or really wants the 32MP sensor, since oversampling from 32MP is a pain in the ass. Whether this has it or not remains to be seen.
There was little stuff that should be fixed from the M50. The awkward silent shooting, eyeAF in all modes, lack of DPAF in 4K and so on that didn't require a full blown revamp. there was a ton of other gotchas as well. I think even bulb mode was a bit fussy and awkward.
Finally .. even though it's competition has increased, outside of perhaps video and fps (which Canon can talk fast and say it's 10FPS), the competition in this price range isn't much better. So why would canon toss the kitchen sink into it. also with increased competition, canon usually again, competes on price in this segment, see point A.
At times Canon history has refreshed an entry level model to simply .. refresh an entry level camera model. newer cameras sell better than older cameras.
And finally - all we have is high level verbage (that is machine translated from Japanese) on the M50 Mark II - we don't know if they improved AF sensitivity, DPAF during 4K, full width 4K,etc.
and btw, you replied to me commenting to someone else that wanted a 32.5MP sensor and IBIS .. for again under $700. That's simply unrealistic.
so when you consider all that, tell me.. what would you have expected.
there was no chance it was getting that in a sub $700 camera.
Canon generally upgrades all their cameras to the next generation of sensors over time. The 32 MB sensor has been out for over a year. Given the 3 1/2 year update cycle for the M50, I'm surprised they didn't didn't go with the newer sensor. We will see what will happen, but my guess is that the M50 mk.2 will not sell nearly as well with these specs. Adding the newer sensor with DPAF in 4k, and bumping the FPS above the current camera would likely have been enough to sell many M50 mk.2's - this seems like a miss to me.
Like someone else wrote, when I read the article I thought it was a mistake because it has almost the exact same specs as the original M50.
I think my point is I expected one or the other to justify an upgrade to what should have been a new camera, it is simply shocking given the expectations of this release, no one said it had to be cheap it could have been the saviour of the M mount where as we now have to hope there is an m5 that deliversDid I? Can't say I did .. but dial back the judgement a bit from 11
Canon rarely raises prices of it's entry level cameras - canon competes in this segment on PRICE. They always have. So if the M50 was sub $700, there's a good chance the M50 Mark II would be sub $700. See how that works?
I've mentioned this before: The M50 sold well because it was pretty: "pretty good" "pretty cheap" "pretty small" "pretty light"
Secondly, there's certainly room for improvement around video - none of that needs or really wants the 32MP sensor, since oversampling from 32MP is a pain in the ass. Whether this has it or not remains to be seen.
There was little stuff that should be fixed from the M50. The awkward silent shooting, eyeAF in all modes, lack of DPAF in 4K and so on that didn't require a full blown revamp. there was a ton of other gotchas as well. I think even bulb mode was a bit fussy and awkward.
Finally .. even though it's competition has increased, outside of perhaps video and fps (which Canon can talk fast and say it's 10FPS), the competition in this price range isn't much better. So why would canon toss the kitchen sink into it. also with increased competition, canon usually again, competes on price in this segment, see point A.
At times Canon history has refreshed an entry level model to simply .. refresh an entry level camera model. newer cameras sell better than older cameras.
And finally - all we have is high level verbage (that is machine translated from Japanese) on the M50 Mark II - we don't know if they improved AF sensitivity, DPAF during 4K, full width 4K,etc.
and btw, you replied to me commenting to someone else that wanted a 32.5MP sensor and IBIS .. for again under $700. That's simply unrealistic.
so when you consider all that, tell me.. what would you have expected.
Me too. Right now I have an M5 and an M6 II and I find always having to have two cameras undesirable.I'd like a M5 mkII, and pull out all the stops, price it as need be.
Even if I use it only with the wonderful little 32mm f/1.4 it will be worth it.
But I also have the lovely 11-22, 22 f/2, and a 12mm f/2.
There are enough nice little lenses available to make a top of the line M body very appealing. Especially as a travel kit.
As a Canon M50 user, i have my wishlist.
This pseudo M5 feature list was too good...
But i would like to read about realistic features, in special from you, since you run a website.
I understood your 700,00 price logic since the beginning, from the others topics about this rumors, but you never told what to expect.
I apologize my rudeness, i mean no offense to your person.