this is just the mark I with 60fps and auto focus update. no thanks canon. and as to why this has to do what 5d4, if canon is so conservative with its cinema line, the 5d4 has zero chance of getting 4k
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andrewflo said:LetTheRightLensIn said:Hmm this seems like very, very bad news for the 5D4. If even this doesn't offer 4k what hope is there for 4k 10bit 4:2:2 from 5D4 or even 4k 8bit and 1080p 10bit 4:2:2?? Or, heck, even a crisp, top quality 1080P 8bit.
Looking more and more like money will be going to Sony (and perhaps even Nikon).
My thoughts exactly. The 5D4 will almost certainly not have 4K recording. Honestly I'm a little disappointed at the Canon road map that this new announcement reveals.
Lee Jay said:Why would they provide quality video and 4k in a $3k 5DIV or sub $2k 7DII when they can get $20k for it in a C500?
Frankly, I don't care all that much, since I think the quality of the imagery in video is usually mostly irrelevant. The only time I'll ever make an effort to get higher video quality than, say, my SDTV, is when I visit a real IMAX theater (you know - the 15 perf 70mm horizontal version) to see a documentary where the photography is just totally outrageous, the bulbs are 15 kilowatts, and the screen occupies around 90 degrees of my field of view.
ajfotofilmagem said:Welcome to the forum. I also see no reason to record 4K today. TV sets in people's homes are not capable of displaying 4K. The Bluray disks do not have the ability to record 4K, without making dishonest compression that will steal the potential quality of 4K.Koemans said:Very mixed views on this. With only a 30fps increase, there is very little reason for anyone with the mark 1 to upgrade. Canon appears to lack innovation yet again. On the other hand, 4k is not readily available to consumers yet. Sure you can record whatever you'd like in 4k at weddings, but you have to downscale everything so you can put it on a dvd or bluray.. there is no universal disc yet that can hold up to 300gb, there are no discwriters available anytime soon if such a disc ever hits the stores that replaces bluray. The c100 is obviously aimed for sports / weddings / indy filmmakers or whatever so it is logical to have it only record 1920x1080 for the above reasons.
But canon does seem to scare the small film makers away.. thats a hefty price for only full HD, meanwhile you can get a a7s + external 4k recorder for only 4000 dollars.
Seems to me that there is a feeling like "I have a dick that is bigger than yours". :-X
Koemans said:ajfotofilmagem said:Welcome to the forum. I also see no reason to record 4K today. TV sets in people's homes are not capable of displaying 4K. The Bluray disks do not have the ability to record 4K, without compression dishonest stealing potential quality of 4K.Koemans said:Very mixed views on this. With only a 30fps increase, there is very little reason for anyone with the mark 1 to upgrade. Canon appears to lack innovation yet again. On the other hand, 4k is not readily available to consumers yet. Sure you can record whatever you'd like in 4k at weddings, but you have to downscale everything so you can put it on a dvd or bluray.. there is no universal disc yet that can hold up to 300gb, there are no discwriters available anytime soon if such a disc ever hits the stores that replaces bluray. The c100 is obviously aimed for sports / weddings / indy filmmakers or whatever so it is logical to have it only record 1920x1080 for the above reasons.
But canon does seem to scare the small film makers away.. thats a hefty price for only full HD, meanwhile you can get a a7s + external 4k recorder for only 4000 dollars.
Seems to me that there is a feeling like "I have a dick that is bigger than yours". :-X
True and thanks^^
The discussion between 2k and 4k is getting a little silly. It is almost like argueing how a 36 megapixel wins over a 22 megapixel camera while you only publish photos on the internet, or how there is noise on a APS-C camera when you zoom in 200%, that is like using a microscope to look at a printed a4 image on your wall!
We need a solid and widely accepted medium first with discwriters and everything before 4k becomes the new standard in even 400 dollar cameras. Consumer computers never get past the 1TB storage on average too and you also run into the problem that you need HUGE SD/CF cards to record 4k, which are very expensive and consumer unfriendly
dilbert said:This should surprise nobody. Canon are doing with their Cx00 line what they do with DSLRs: release small incremental updates with each newer version to maximum the extraction of money from their customers.
The only thing missing from the announcement was price.
peederj said:Let's not forget the 1DC, a Canon DSLR with full-frame 4K video (and the first DSLR with either).
preppyak said:Why people are comparing a theoretical 5dIV (which has literally none of the same specs as this camera) is beyond me.
peederj said:But the FS7 doesn't include a free 1DX in the tin.
LearningCameras said:Don't underestimate 4k. While I don't expect to be mastering out to 4k for a year or two, you will very soon be needing it. Any new camera without it for video will have a shorter shelf life and lower resale value.
Plus, shooting 4k and mastering to 1080p has revolutionized how I film weddings. We can't always set up our shots beforehand and being able to crop/zoom, recompose,stabilize, and even pan in post is amazing!
Ebrahim Saadawi said:WesEvans it's 60p. 60 progressive frames at 1080p for 2x slowmotion when downconverted to 30p. 60i is interlaced so every frame is. two fields therefore 60i = 30p, that was the original C100.