Canon EF 28 f/2.8 IS USM

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mememe said:
No EF-S... Good...

But 2.8? Naah. and really both 24 and 28.... somehow strange...

I wouldnt say that stange, the two existing 2.8 primes at those focal lenghts didnt look to be selling well at all compaired to say the 35mm f/2 or the 50mm f/1.4.

Adding IS and potentially focusing on better performance at 2.8 does also allow them to seperate the market from the L's.
 
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moreorless said:
mememe said:
No EF-S... Good...

But 2.8? Naah. and really both 24 and 28.... somehow strange...

I wouldnt say that stange, the two existing 2.8 primes at those focal lenghts didnt look to be selling well at all compaired to say the 35mm f/2 or the 50mm f/1.4.

Adding IS and potentially focusing on better performance at 2.8 does also allow them to seperate the market from the L's.

+1 on that. You can also search for wide primes like Leica or Nikkor, they also have 28 f/2.8 or 20 f/2.8 (without IS). I don't find it strange - especially combined with IS and capabilities of FF at high ISOs. And sure - they can now separate them from L's and still retain profit from them. If you really need fast lens - just look at 24 f/1.4L II.

Hope that RRP 800$ and 24 f/2.8 IS USM RRP 850$ will be around 700$ as street price.
 
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sjp010 said:
Is the MSRP really $850 (for the 24) and $800 (for the 28)? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I don't think I'd be a buyer at even half those prices.

I agree with you completely. No way would I spend that on a 2.8 prime. If those turn out to be actual retail prices from Canon then I'll be really disappointed and it would be just another example of Canon's arrogance. I am getting tired of Canon's pricing when you look at the offerings from other makers. Canon are so much like Apple it's sickening.

Hopefully this is just the beginning of the refresh and we have a 35/2.0 28/1.8 USM IS coming our way.
 
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SnapHappy said:
sjp010 said:
Is the MSRP really $850 (for the 24) and $800 (for the 28)? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I don't think I'd be a buyer at even half those prices.

I agree with you completely. No way would I spend that on a 2.8 prime. If those turn out to be actual retail prices from Canon then I'll be really disappointed and it would be just another example of Canon's arrogance. I am getting tired of Canon's pricing when you look at the offerings from other makers. Canon are so much like Apple it's sickening.

Hopefully this is just the beginning of the refresh and we have a 35/2.0 28/1.8 USM IS coming our way.

me as well. there is no way I'm shelling out more than what you'd pay for a 50mm f/1.4 just to get an f/2.8 max aperture ... on a prime! it's bizarre and very frustrating. however, Sigma has been improving their lens quality (still nowhere close to L-series glass) so I'll be waiting to see if they take advantage of this opening in the FF prime lens market. $800 for an f/2.8 wide prime? really appalling. it's not like this is a new 200mm f/2.8 IS we're talking about here.
 
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dilbert said:
noodles said:
SnapHappy said:
Hopefully this is just the beginning of the refresh and we have a 35/2.0 28/1.8 USM IS coming our way.

+1

I recently bought the 35 f/2. But will sell it if 35 f/2 IS hit the market

What if it gets the same treatment and ends up being a $800 35/2.8 IS USM?

:-o

don't tempt fate ... but that looks like a distinct possibility at this point
 
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Yippee something is happening!
It so about time.
I'm so desperate ..... pant, pant.
;D

1st• and most important 2.8 works for me ifBIG IF it is usable and that means not always hàving to step down to be sharp (1.8 doesn't do me any good if its not relatively sharp). It seems as if many prime units are never used to the max because they start to suck.

2nd• I really really would like I.S.. I'm Shaky nice to meet you. It's in the genetics - it ain't age, ain't caffeine, can't blame sugar and no don't you dare mention my technique.

3rd• $$$$ glass in general seems a bit steep nowadays but like if I can stay at 2.8 with some good IQ well then OK.

4th• I most often hang out @ around 30mm/50mm being I'm cropped.

Now about about a pre order........
 
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DJL329 said:
DJL329 said:
Holy crap, it's real!

http://usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/lenses/ef_lens_lineup/lens_wide_pro/ef_28mm_f_2_8_is_usm

The long drought of non-L primes is finally coming to an end! Can't wait for the next 50mm f/1.4. With IS, too?

Now that I've seen the prices for the 24mm and 28mm f/2.8 IS lenses, I most certainly do not want IS on the 50mm f/1.4 II. They'd probably make it need 82mm filters and charge nearly as much as the 50mm f/1.2! :P

besides, we'll all consider ourselves lucky if it's even f/1.4 ... looks like Canon plans on nerfing all of the non-L primes. we may end up with nothing between the 50 f/1.2 L and a 50 f/2.8 USM
 
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SnapHappy said:
Hopefully this is just the beginning of the refresh and we have a 35/2.0 28/1.8 USM IS coming our way.

Yeah, but won't those be like $1200 though, based on this pricing scheme?!

Sorry, Canon, but the prices on these two new ones is just effing nuts. I love non-L EF prime lenses on my 5Dc for a few obvious reasons, namely they're: (a) fast, (b) cheap, (c) small & light, and (d) excellent in IQ. These new lenses fail half of those criteria, so I'm not buying!

At ~$400, I'd overlook the f/2.8 (assuming good IQ at 2.8 ) and give one of them a shot. But for those prices, I'll stick with my 28/1.8 that I bought for... ~$400! It has very good IQ at f/2.8, plus the ability to shoot faster if needed.

Are there filmmaking needs for a lens like this? I don't shoot any video so I'm not sure what the needs are.

Anyway, I'll stop ranting. I just can't for the life of me figure out what the intended market for these new primes is. Certainly isn't me!
 
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sjp010 said:
Are there filmmaking needs for a lens like this? I don't shoot any video so I'm not sure what the needs are.

Anyway, I'll stop ranting. I just can't for the life of me figure out what the intended market for these new primes is. Certainly isn't me!

I think film/video. 24mm is a standard wide on FF and 28mm is close to 'normal' on crop. JMO based on the fact that like anyone else, even an IS lover like myself wouldn't buy these at those prices. IQ would have to be L-like at 2.8 and even then without weathersealing....

A really good IQ 24mm f4 IS for 1/2 the price might interest me.
 
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