Canon EF-S 35mm f/2.8 M IS STM Coming April 5, 2017 [CR3]

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#21
Re: Canon EF-S 35mm f/2.8 M IS STM Coming April 5, 2017

slclick said:
Talys said:
Oh, oh, I know -- "Manual focus that won't annoy me" :)


If it's optically excellent like the 1.8STM and efs 10-22, and the price is "cheap", I'll buy it. I like 35mm on crop and the lens will probably be super thin. I mean, not earth shattering stuff here, but, why not?
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You'll run into a great deal of interference championing the 50 1.8 and the 10-22 as optically excellent. I would on the other hand just hope it's compact and on par optically with the 24 ef-s and the FF 40.

I would bet the M designation is a non 1:1 Macro. What that ratio might be is anyone's guess.
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Typo.. I meant, 10-18, sorry. No idea why I said 22.

I think 50 1.8 and 10-18 provide excellent images in terms of sharpness and CA (the two things most important to me) for their price. The lack or ring USM kind of kills it for me, but these are tiny light lenses to throw in the bag just in case I need them, and supplement the 24-70/4 that's usually on my 80D.

I own a 17-55/2.8, but I m not thrilled with IQ at 2.8 35mm.
 
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#22
Re: Canon EF-S 35mm f/2.8 M IS STM Coming April 5, 2017

slclick said:
Talys said:
Oh, oh, I know -- "Manual focus that won't annoy me" :)


If it's optically excellent like the 1.8STM and efs 10-22, and the price is "cheap", I'll buy it. I like 35mm on crop and the lens will probably be super thin. I mean, not earth shattering stuff here, but, why not?
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You'll run into a great deal of interference championing the 50 1.8 and the 10-22 as optically excellent. I would on the other hand just hope it's compact and on par optically with the 24 ef-s and the FF 40.

I would bet the M designation is a non 1:1 Macro. What that ratio might be is anyone's guess.
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The 50mmSTM may not be fantastic wide open, but at f5.6 you'd be hard pressed to find any lens with significantly better IQ.
(I'm comparing it with the Sigma 50mm Art, the difference is so minuscule that practically no-one would be able to differentiate between images taken with either lens at that aperture.)
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=989&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=4&LensComp=941&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=5
 
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Re: Canon EF-S 35mm f/2.8 M IS STM Coming April 5, 2017

9VIII said:
The 50mmSTM may not be fantastic wide open, but at f5.6 you'd be hard pressed to find any lens with significantly better IQ.
(I'm comparing it with the Sigma 50mm Art, the difference is so minuscule that practically no-one would be able to differentiate between images taken with either lens at that aperture.)
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=989&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=4&LensComp=941&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=5
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Yeah, if they threw ring USM onto it, I would happily pay 2-3x the price. I use it over my 1.4 because CA is worse on the 1.4, and also, my 1.4 has a focus ring that keeps sticking/dying, requiring me to disassemble and fiddle with it. I would love a 1.2L, but can't justify it, and anyways, I don't think I'd lug it around all the time.

The 10-18 gives me pictures that I'm perfectly happy with. I know it's not a 16-35/2.8 on FF, but I don't have a FF (yet... waiting on 6DII), and it's a fraction of the cost and is so small and light that I don't mind having it in my bag all the time, even if I have no plans on using it.

I think the EFS35/2.8 could be the same thing, if it's light enough, and has IQ that's good enough -- the bar for me to buy it is sharper and less CA than a 17-55 at 35mm wide open, which I don't think is a super high bar for a prime, and considering that 17-55 isn't that spectacular in IQ at 2.8.
 
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#25
Re: Canon EF-S 35mm f/2.8 M IS STM Coming April 5, 2017

I was hoping for a lens between 10-15mm. Could this be the reversible mount lens for EF-M and EF-S? The one patented here http://www.canonrumors.com/patent-canon-reversible-mount-lens/ regardless I am little underwhelmed by EF-S 35mm
 
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#27
Re: Canon EF-S 35mm f/2.8 M IS STM Coming April 5, 2017

The M had better be short for Magical, because an EF 35mm f/2 IS USM:

  • Has USM
  • Has FTM mechanical focusing (not focus by wire, which we'd presume this new one would be)
  • Is a stop faster
  • Is very well built
  • Is ready to go on a FF rig should the user upgrade to FF someday
  • Can be had for about $400 as a refurb

So this new one had either be much cheaper, much smaller, or have a very innovative new feature.

- A
 
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#30
Re: Canon EF-S 35mm f/2.8 M IS STM Coming April 5, 2017

I do like the idea of it being a reversible lens. But having EF-S and EF-M mounts makes no sense to anyone, it'd be EF-S mounts on both sides giving you a standard 35mm f/2.8 one way round and a pretty serious macro capability the other way round would be interesting to say the least.

Although if this is really what it was I'd have used the letter 'R' (for reversible) rather than generate this ridiculous confusion between this and EF-M lenses. Similarly if it is for Macro I'd have expected them to include 'Macro' in the title as they have with every other macro lens.


So although I'd like it to be reversible my money is still on 'M' being the new EF-S equivalent of an 'L' lens, with better optics and build quality. In which case the confusion with EF-M lenses is still ridiculous!
 
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#33
Re: Canon EF-S 35mm f/2.8 M IS STM Coming April 5, 2017

ajfotofilmagem said:
There has to be some reason to buy an "EF-S 35mm F2.8 IS", rather than the 40 pancake.

Just because of Image Stabilizer? ???
Even more compact? ::)
Even cheaper? :o
Macro mode? 8)
All of the above? :-X
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IS

Love your emoticons ! Could hardly be smaller or cheaper !
 
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#35
Re: Canon EF-S 35mm f/2.8 M IS STM Coming April 5, 2017

JMZawodny said:
M is one better than L. All new lenses will be part of the new M series and everyone will dump their Red line lenses for the new Blue line M-series.
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But just for EF-S. For FF there will be new 'N' lenses which are an additional one better and have a pink ring.
 
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#36
Re: Canon EF-S 35mm f/2.8 M IS STM Coming April 5, 2017

I think I'm going to go with Macro, maybe with lights. I mean, Nikon has had one for years...

http://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-products/product/camera-lenses/af-s-dx-micro-nikkor-40mm-f%252f2.8g.html
 
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slclick said:
I'd love to hear how many folks get excited about a 56mm, not incredibly fast equivalent. Canon must believe that there are quite a few.
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I bought a new 20D and a new Elan 7n on the same day, back in the mid-00s. I guess that qualifies as me a long time XXD user.

I don't like a 56mm lens on a FullFrameFilm camera, so the last thing I want is a 56mm FullFrame FOV (FFFOV) EF-S prime.

What I wanted was an EF-S prime w-i-d-e-r than the EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM (a slightly short normal FFFOV). A 12mm (19mm FFFOV) or a 17mm (27mm FFFOV) would have been useful. A Zeiss Touit 12mm f/2.8 is a great wide prime, sadly only available in Sony E-mount or Fuji X-mount.

Disapointed, once again by Canon—why am I no't surprised :(
 
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#39
Re: Canon EF-S 35mm f/2.8 M IS STM Coming April 5, 2017

The reversible lens mount patent from a few months gives the most likely explanation.
It's a normal 35mm lens when used in the "normal" orientation.
Then you invert the lens, and it's a reverse mounted (EF-S) 35 mm lens that works for macro.
Was a very common method in old manual lens film days to get some macro with a 50mm lens by
screwing a mount adapter into the front filter thread and reverse mounting it.

35mm sounds like a good focal length to do this, and the adapter is right integrated into the lens, so
it's "M" Macro, and novel. Just needs the electronic contacts in the front that will be covered by some removable ring/hood-like thing. with 35mm, it should give 1:1 magnification, or even a bit more. Autofocus range in M mode will of course be limited.
 
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#40
Re: Canon EF-S 35mm f/2.8 M IS STM Coming April 5, 2017

photonius said:
The reversible lens mount patent from a few months gives the most likely explanation.
It's a normal 35mm lens when used in the "normal" orientation.
Then you invert the lens, and it's a reverse mounted (EF-S) 35 mm lens that works for macro.
Was a very common method in old manual lens film days to get some macro with a 50mm lens by
screwing a mount adapter into the front filter thread and reverse mounting it.

35mm sounds like a good focal length to do this, and the adapter is right integrated into the lens, so
it's "M" Macro, and novel. Just needs the electronic contacts in the front that will be covered by some removable ring/hood-like thing. with 35mm, it should give 1:1 magnification, or even a bit more. Autofocus range in M mode will of course be limited.
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Makes sense.
It could just be a replacement for the EF-S 60mm.
 
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