Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specification List [CR1]

[davidj]

Lets all agree to say no to dual yet different card slots! CFast makes sense CFast + SD doesn't. Same with CFast + CF. If you can afford to spend $3200/$6000 on your camera you can afford to upgrade your cards to a significantly better one.

As sympathetic as I am to that view, you probably should have told Canon before they made they 1D X II.

 

[Ph0t0]

The question was not about whether Joe would have an option. The question was whether his photos would look good on a 32MP screen, and the answer is they wouldn't until such time as he actually learned to use pro techniques. Which in most cases be never.

Woow you actually think that most people that are going to buy 5D Mk IV have no idea about photography techniques and that shooting with a bit faster shutter speeds is something that only the select few can learn?
Wow.

 

[GMCPhotographics]

If it's got the same AF module and set up as the 5DSR and 1DX, and not the cut down version from the 5DIII (ai servo is quite poor on the 5DIII compared to the 1Dx due to a lack of colour tracking and face tracking). If it's got the same DR and low iso invariance that the 1Dx II is supposed to have...and maybe another stop or so of clean iso ability. Then it could be considered a warm over. It's a pity that there's not 28mp or 8 fps...in fact the fps is more disappointing.
The touch screen rear LCD would be welcome and a step forwards in ergonomics...although i don't fancy cleaning my fingerprints off every time I gimp a photo.

 

[robinlee]

Some excellent replies here, but I like to add this; "Significant increment on BUFFER rate!!"

 

[Antono Refa]

The question was not about whether Joe would have an option. The question was whether his photos would look good on a 32MP screen, and the answer is they wouldn't until such time as he actually learned to use pro techniques. Which in most cases be never.

Woow you actually think that most people that are going to buy 5D Mk IV have no idea about photography techniques and that shooting with a bit faster shutter speeds is something that only the select few can learn?
Wow.

A. The discussion is not about people who buy a 5DmkIV. The discussion is about everybody who would have a TV, which in a few years would be, supposedly, at least 8K.

B. Yes, light is so strong always and everywhere, that you can shoot with low ISO with whichever f-stop and shutter speed you'd like. Just a matter of getting the shutter speed low enough.

 

[zim]

Some excellent replies here, but I like to add this; "Significant increment on BUFFER rate!!"

If it does end up 7fps maybe this will be why?

 

[glness]

Why would you need a CFast slot at 24mp and 7fps?

4K video.

I don't use video much, but there are a lot of cameras doing 4K with SD cards, so I still don't get the need for CFast if this rumor has any truth. Maybe the actual specifications when released will justify the need for this.

 

[Ph0t0]

The question was not about whether Joe would have an option. The question was whether his photos would look good on a 32MP screen, and the answer is they wouldn't until such time as he actually learned to use pro techniques. Which in most cases be never.

Woow you actually think that most people that are going to buy 5D Mk IV have no idea about photography techniques and that shooting with a bit faster shutter speeds is something that only the select few can learn?
Wow.

A. The discussion is not about people who buy a 5DmkIV. The discussion is about everybody who would have a TV, which in a few years would be, supposedly, at least 8K.

B. Yes, light is so strong always and everywhere, that you can shoot with low ISO with whichever f-stop and shutter speed you'd like. Just a matter of getting the shutter speed low enough.

A. Sorry. What? So the viewer has to learn "pro" techniques?
When you wrote:" The question was whether his photos would look good on a 32MP screen, and the answer is they wouldn't until such time as he actually learned to use pro techniques. Which in most cases be never." I somehow assumed that you were talking about the photographer using the new 5D with higher resolution sensor.

B. So apparently people in your world are always shooting handheld just on the edge of acceptable shutter speed that still makes their photos sharp. Also pushing ISO 2/3 of a stop is unheard-of.

I'm not saying that there are no occasions where this is the case and you can't use a tripod and you don't want to increase your ISO, but even in those cases if you get a bit blurry photos, you are still no worse off than when shooting the same scene with a lower MP camera.

 

[davidj]

Why would you need a CFast slot at 24mp and 7fps?

4K video.

I don't use video much, but there are a lot of cameras doing 4K with SD cards, so I still don't get the need for CFast if this rumor has any truth. Maybe the actual specifications when released will justify the need for this.

I'm no expert on this, but not all 4K is made equal. Could SD/CF cards handle the 800Mbit/s footage the 1D X II creates doing 4K 60p? Or 500Mbit/s for 4K 24p? I guess the alternative is that Canon thinks CFast is the way of the future, and now is as good a time to switch as any.

 

[dreyth]

Some CF cards can certainly handle 4k at 24/30fps, but I'm not so sure about 4k at 60fps. Upgrading to CFast makes sense to me when it comes to sustained 4k 60fps video shooting.

 

[pedro]

Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV forseeable IQ at ISO 51k

Hi

Based on the advanced sensor tech and a decent increade in MP, what do you think:
Will these alleged 51k ISO look more like 25k on the 5D3 or is there a slight chance that they might look even more like 12.8 K on the 5D3. 12.8 on my current 6D look pretty decent. Had a 5D3 before...

 

[tpatana]

Lets all agree to say no to dual yet different card slots! CFast makes sense CFast + SD doesn't. Same with CFast + CF. If you can afford to spend $3200/$6000 on your camera you can afford to upgrade your cards to a significantly better one.

I've so many times told here that being able to skip eating for couple months and buying awesome camera, doesn't mean you want to shell out some $300-$500 for new memory cards.

 

[slclick]

Lets all agree to say no to dual yet different card slots! CFast makes sense CFast + SD doesn't. Same with CFast + CF. If you can afford to spend $3200/$6000 on your camera you can afford to upgrade your cards to a significantly better one.

I've so many times told here that being able to skip eating for couple months and buying awesome camera, doesn't mean you want to shell out some $300-$500 for new memory cards.

Seems like many of the CR1 rumors contradict themselves with Card types vs frame rates and video specs. If I had my druthers, It would be CF-CF. SD is flimsy and disposable, CFast is unnecessary for what this model will shoot and CF is proven and solid, not to mention affordable and usually we all own a grundle of them.

 

[amellice]

I feel really disappointed. After all this waiting and just 2 MP increase? I mean seriously! I'm not pixel peep but that's just silly. 1 fps increase from Mk III! what a joke. I'm a Canon shooter and I love my camera but looks like Canon is seriously lagging behind specially with the 3000$ + price range that this camera will be.

 

[romanr74]

Lets all agree to say no to dual yet different card slots! CFast makes sense CFast + SD doesn't. Same with CFast + CF. If you can afford to spend $3200/$6000 on your camera you can afford to upgrade your cards to a significantly better one.

I've so many times told here that being able to skip eating for couple months and buying awesome camera, doesn't mean you want to shell out some $300-$500 for new memory cards.

This is silly. A semi-pro cam goes with semi-pro/pro glass. How could you go down that route but not be able to afford 300-500 bucks for cards? And why would I have to compromise because of that...

 

[romanr74]

I feel really disappointed. After all this waiting and just 2 MP increase? I mean seriously! I'm not pixel peep but that's just silly. 1 fps increase from Mk III! what a joke. I'm a Canon shooter and I love my camera but looks like Canon is seriously lagging behind specially with the 3000$ + price range that this camera will be.

Behind what?

 

[FilipOk]

I sold my 5D mkIII about a year ago and bought innovative Sony A7 because small size and weight, EVF, IBIS and articulated screen are very suitable for my amateur needs. And yes, Sony's sensor performs noticeably better .
And now looking at the specs I'm asking, where is the progress, Canon? I shot Canon 5D cameras about 5 years starting from mk I. Mk II was really big step forward - really fantastic camera for its time. Mk III brought modern autofocus. It was single but really needed feature to update. But what is the reason for update to mkIV for Canon shooters now?

• + 2 Mp
• touchscreen
• built-in Wifi & GPS

Is it really all 4 years progress? Canon, I'm very disapointed!

 

[romanr74]

I sold my 5D mkIII about a year ago and bought innovative Sony A7 because small size and weight, EVF, IBIS and articulated screen are very suitable for my amateur needs. And yes, Sony's sensor performs noticeably better .
And now looking at the specs I'm asking, where is the progress, Canon? I shot Canon 5D cameras about 5 years starting from mk I. Mk II was really big step forward - really fantastic camera for its time. Mk III brought modern autofocus. It was single but really needed feature to update. But what is the reason for update to mkIV for Canon shooters now?

• + 2 Mp
• touchscreen
• built-in Wifi & GPS

Is it really all 4 years progress? Canon, I'm very disapointed!

How are you disapointed when you shoot Sony?

 

[jmoya]

I'm just hoping for more DR. Nikon and Sony kill Canon on this. MP is not that important to me and many others. I start getting noise from 100iso images by only pushing 1.5 stops in lightroom from RAW photos on my 5d mark III's. Unacceptable Canon!!!! I just can't give up all my L lenses. Looks like I may have to wait for the 6d mark II.

 

[FilipOk]

I sold my 5D mkIII about a year ago and bought innovative Sony A7 because small size and weight, EVF, IBIS and articulated screen are very suitable for my amateur needs. And yes, Sony's sensor performs noticeably better .
And now looking at the specs I'm asking, where is the progress, Canon? I shot Canon 5D cameras about 5 years starting from mk I. Mk II was really big step forward - really fantastic camera for its time. Mk III brought modern autofocus. It was single but really needed feature to update. But what is the reason for update to mkIV for Canon shooters now?

• + 2 Mp
• touchscreen
• built-in Wifi & GPS

Is it really all 4 years progress? Canon, I'm very disapointed!

How are you disapointed when you shoot Sony?

Yes, I shoot Sony, but I'm not sonyboy I would be glad to have really innovative camera from Canon. I used both Canon and Sony systems about a year before my final decision to sell Canon. Now I see how evolves Sony's technology. I'm waiting really new products for FE system. And what is going on on Canon market? NOTHING!!!