Canon EOS 5D Mark IV Specification List [CR1]

[pierlux]

The new battery seems doubtful. Sure, sooner or later every battery is replaced, but I believe Canon would replace the LE-E6 series only as a last resort. And I note that the new battery is a variation on the model number for the grip. Since grip model numbers vary by camera, that seems unusual and sends up a red flag about the legitimacy of this rumor.

On the other hand, the LP-E6 was introduced along with the BG-E6 with the 5D II. So, either this rumor is a well thought out fake, or is trustworthy because of this precision.

 

[drs]

New Batteries? Not with me.

What an expensive side effect that would be, to buy this model.

Weird move -- Canon!

 

[pierlux]

If true, I doubt this will sway potential 1DX2 owners to get this instead.

As someone buying a 1DX2, I'm likely going to put the 5D4 up next on my list. Definitely not a primary camera for me, but it looks like it'll be a worthy secondary camera. That said, I'm probably in the minority of people that would buy both.

The 5D IV could likely be the next camera of many original 1DX owners who are still sufficiently satisfied by their camera and not willing to spend 6 grands on a new one, still intrigued by higher res, touchscreen, GPS, WiFi etc. at an *affordable* price. And, please, note in which context I'm using the term "affordable" before crucifying me

 

[Luds34]

I was hoping these specs on the 6D Mark II :'(

Haha, same here.

Spec-wise this looks pretty evolutionary on the 5D front. Of course how much they improve the sensor could possibly be one of the key draws in a 5D4 over a 5D3.

 

[RickWagoner]

The mp and focus points seem wrong to me. Marketing wise it would be suicide to have the same mp as the crop bodies even at this high level. The 61 points is a bit low for such a grade body also the crop 80D and 7D2 are too near that number.


Protip, it may have 1.6 crop mode..red dot light viewfinder like 1dx2..also greater or same f8 focus points along with dpaf...anti flicker also

 

[Maximilian]

Quite reasonable specs.
Good to see that this body will stay in a decent MP range and get no pixel overkill.
A really nice body to get and I surely would go for it if I still had a Mark II body.

But until yet nothing tempting for me to change from Mark III to Mark IV.

 

[pierlux]

The mp and focus points seem wrong to me. Marketing wise it would be suicide to have the same mp as the crop bodies even at this high level. The 61 points is a bit low for such a grade body also the crop 80D and 7D2 are too near that number.


Protip, it will have 1.6 crop mode..red dot light viewfinder like 1dx2..also greater or same f8 focus points along with dpaf

Really? And what about the 61 points of the 1DX II... oh, but wait, I forgot that Canon are doomed.

 

[doog]

I will not use SD cards, there are too many issues with them.

I remain confused/baffled by the basic (architectural) characteristics of CF vs. SD. I think I understand that CF is capped by standards agreement. Any illumination would help to quell (but not fully eliminate) certain specific ignorant comments from me, so thanks in advance.

 

[pierlux]

...

As for this rumor or any others that show up within the next 2 months, if we are to believe that the actual announcement is 4 months away, they are complete fabrications. They may be well designed, but they're fabrications. People send them in because they're trolling CR Guy and the users of this site. They enjoy watching people get worked up.

I could easily craft a believable rumor fairly easily for the 5D Mark IV. It would take about 10 minutes. And if posted by CR Guy, it would lead to PAGES of responses which included a combination of applause, personal wish lists that varied from my well-crafted rumor, and proclamations of doom.

I think (nearly) all of us are aware of this. Nevertheless, it's fun speculating, it's more or less the same as we do when chatting with photographer friends about what to expect next, what's probable or possible and what we wish. All rumor sites live on this. I've learned a lot of things on CR, being educated by other smarter-than-me members of this forum. I see nothing wrong in all this, even many of the other photography websites have sections dedicated to rumors. And, occasionally, something reliable is reported. Ironically, the most accurate rumors have been those which seemed the least reliable. One for all: the 2x "niche" zoom which translated into the 8-15 fisheye.

 

[Maiaibing]

I was hoping these specs on the 6D Mark II :'(

Haha, same here.

Spec-wise this looks pretty evolutionary on the 5D front. Of course how much they improve the sensor could possibly be one of the key draws in a 5D4 over a 5D3.

Looks pretty DOA to me. Agree on the 6DII-ish profile. Sensor would have to provide very, very significant improvement over previous models to even consider.

Marginally faster fps - but still not fast fps
Relatively few MPIX
Expensive extras (battery, cf-fast)
AF better - but looks unlikely to anything but marginally better than other newer FF models

Looks like a second 5DSR or maybe a "cheaper" 5DS would make much more sense - unless Canon plans to give these away @~2.400$.

 

[slclick]

The 5D line has always been an all rounder. Not the fastest or greatest at any one thing but more than capable at many. Incremental improvements have been Canon's SOP for quite some time, sure you want more but realistically you will only get so much. Many want the new model in the 5D line to be a mini 1D, many want the new 6D to be a 5D style body.

Both the 6D2 and 5D4 will be better than their former selves. Not mind blowingly better but incrementally. A tad better in low light, a bit better noise in higher iso, a slightly faster fps, somewhat brighter VF, a couple more cross type AF points. So on and so forth.

Sucks that realistic expectations don't make a good rumor mill. I get that. But they work and work well. If you don't think so you are either a video genius or need to spend some time with a Holga 120N.

 

[ahsanford]

Not buying this rumor, not completely at least.

The 5D3 had a highly similar AF setup to the 1DX, and I expect something similar to occur w.r.t. the 1DX II AF setup. There's value for Canon in doing this, perhaps as a 2nd rig for an event shooter.

Also, 24 MP X 7 fps is leaving a s--- ton of meat on the bone processing-wise. If we can move 50 MP x 5 fps, we could easily move 24 MP x 8-10 fps with a second chip. On that topic, I have yet to hear a compelling reason why a similarly-priced 5DS and much much cheaper 7D2 warrant two chips and the 5D4 still only gets one chip. Put two chips in there, nerf the fps if you are truly worried about shutter/mirror durability or think a 10 fps rig is a threat to 1DX II sales, but 24 MP x 9 fps seems about right.

- A

 

[ahsanford]

Also -- still no chatter on the ability to switch to manual focusing screens?

I'd love to give those Sigma Art primes another go.

- A

 

[j-nord]

Not impressed, don't believe it, no show stopping/future proofing attribute listed.

 

[slclick]

Also -- still no chatter on the ability to switch to manual focusing screens?

I'd love to give those Sigma Art primes another go.

- A

That's what I'm hoping the 6D series retains in future models.

 

[Loswr]

The mp and focus points seem wrong to me. Marketing wise it would be suicide to have the same mp as the crop bodies even at this high level. The 61 points is a bit low for such a grade body also the crop 80D and 7D2 are too near that number.


Protip, it will have 1.6 crop mode..red dot light viewfinder like 1dx2..also greater or same f8 focus points along with dpaf

Really? And what about the 61 points of the 1DX II... oh, but wait, I forgot that Canon are doomed.

Yeah, and you know, the 1D X has 18 MP just like so many Canon crop bodies when it was launched, total suicide.

Protip - Rick pulls his information from 'sources' that I think live in an orifice where the sun don't shine, if you know what I mean...

 

[et31]

Lack-luster improvements for $3,800. Native ISO doubling was to be expected.
But, a 61-point array, where 41 points are cross-type AF sensors is the same as the Mark III. Bleugh.
I was hoping for all cross-type AF points like the 7D Mark II! ....and more f/2.8 sensitive points for a change to take advantage of that native ISO range.

Let's hope the "confirmed list" will be a bit better than this.

 

[ahsanford]

Also -- still no chatter on the ability to switch to manual focusing screens?

I'd love to give those Sigma Art primes another go.

- A

That's what I'm hoping the 6D series retains in future models.

And besides the obvious 'horsepower' metrics (fps, sensor MP, comprehensiveness/points/teleconverterability of the AF system, etc.), Canon would be wise to yank manual screens from the 6D line and give them back to the 5D line. I see this nicely queued up triumvirate of planes landing at the airport (1DX2, 5D4, 6D2) as a great opportunity for Canon to re-establish the good / better / best value proposition of the three product lines.

Today, the 6D1 is no match for the 5D3 on aggregate, but at a feature level it has some nice things (-3 EV center point, manual screens, etc.) that left some 5D3 folks wondering why they ponied up so much to be left out of those features.

- A

 

[Chaitanya]

Waiting for release day, hopefully Canon wont castrate this camera due to other very good video capable cameras in the same price range. But since this is Canon dont expect they will release anything exceptional.

 

[kaihp]

Also, 24 MP X 7 fps is leaving a s--- ton of meat on the bone processing-wise. If we can move 50 MP x 5 fps, we could easily move 24 MP x 8-10 fps with a second chip.

Historically, the 5D's (not to confuse with the 5Ds ) have only used a single DIGIC processor (DIGIC II, DIGIC 4, DIGIC 5+) vs 2 for the 5Ds/R and 7D series.

With 24.1Mpix x 7fps it would push ~169Mpix/sec, vs ~162Mpix/sec per DIGIC6+ for the 1Dx Mk II. This is very similar to the 1Dx/5D3 ratio.

While I don't like the idea of a new battery, I could see this being driven from a need for delivering higher peak current in order to drive the CFast card.

One thing that I'd like to see is a Type-C USB 3 connector instead of the bulky Super-Speed USB connector used on 5Ds. But Canon is Canon, so that won't happen the next 4 years or so.
The ability to charge the battery through USB (as an 'emergency') would be nice too.