Canon EOS 5D Mark IV to be Announced August 25, 2016 [CR3]
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Same. I'd like to see higher resolution potentially, but more likely I'd be leaning towards mid 30s. Something similar to the D800s.sanj said:
That'd be nice to have, but there's really only one thing (or set of things) I have found to be an occasional limiting factor for some of the types of photography I enjoy.
Those things would be improved base ISO performance and reduced noise overall, along with better shadow quality/recovery. If they reproduce what I understand they've done with the 1DX Mark II, I'll probably be in line for one and will upgrade my Mark III a lot sooner than I usually swap cameras.
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Wedding season varies around the world. Right now in Texas, we are at a low point. Its HOT here! But I'm hoping maybe to have it for the tail end of my fall season which starts to kick in mid-Sept through Nov. I have one wedding booked in late Jan and another highly likely the following day too.Andrew Davies Photography said:
Better ISO is my number one priority. I shoot events at iso 2000 to 2500 very regularly and if the quality at that level would double! Woohoo!!! Wifi & GPS and one Cfast slot/one SD are pretty solid on the expected feature list at this point. My dream feature is an optional EVF comparable to the EVFs on the mirrorless competition.
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colorblinded said:
I'll just add this: if its a 28-32mp camera (I'd be shocked if they went higher than 32) then its likely a new sensor paradigm. Meaning we could not only see on sensor ADC's like the 80D, but we could also potentially see other design iterations learned from their 120mp experimental sensor. If its 24mp... then they built it on existing fabs and probably pushed the refresh rates on it to get 4k. This means more power draw and more heat (do not let your 5D4 bake for long, it will probably shut down)
They might have the ADC's on sensor... but I wouldn't hold my breath for it if its 24mp. Rampant speculation: The one thing that pops to mind that would make a massive difference: BSI - back side illumination. This would be a perfect implementation for BSI before moving to much higher pixel-density cameras like the 7D3 or a 5Ds/r2 without pushing the glass too hard. Lets face it, they'd have to take their optical formulas up a notch or three on the 24-70 and the 70-200 before they start flirting with a 100mp+ sensor. And probably add IS to everything. And they know their average wedding shooters aren't going to want to dump $$$$ into cfast to get half-a-dozen 512gb cards, the new computer rig necessary to process those pics (you'll need a comp with at least 16gb ram), at least 2 1tb ssd's for working, and the helium 8tb+ drives (at least 4-6 in raid) to store 'em on. And they'll need BSI anyway in order to compensate for the massive pixel density without having to shrink a supercomputer for noise reduction into a digic die. Physics is physics. You can't shrink the electronics all that much without new fabs, but if you can move them out of the way (like behind the sensor pit) you win the lotto.
Of course, considering Canon's conservative nature - you'd have a better chance of hitting the lotto than seeing this happen. You'd see this tech in a powershot or something they gave less than two craps about before seeing it in a 5D.
But I'd love to see DxO's reviewer's faces if Canon actually did this. On a 28-32mp camera this would probably extract a 2 fold noise reduction before processing, because the sensor pits would be double or even triple the size. And you could insert dedicated DPAF sensors between the photosite arrays. Add to the on sensor ADC and voila a camera that will beat Nikon and Sony at everything except raw pixel count. And knowing Canon it will outperform whatever specs they actually publish in August.
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infared said:
LMAO...Lets see. The Canon 5d mark iii was announced more than 4 years ago at $3,499. The same camera today is $2,499...even with the imminent announcement of a replacement next month. That's exactly $1,000 discount on a model that is 4 years and 4 months old and soon to be replaced.
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Six months after the 5D MK III was released, I pre-ordered one, and then bought a 2nd one from Adorama for $2750 in a one day sale, and received enough points to buy a spare Canon battery. This time, I'm not sure if I'll buy one right away, but just wait.
I think that $3600 is overpriced by a huge amount.
I think that $3600 is overpriced by a huge amount.
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I am happy for everyone waiting for a 5DIV. As a former 5D3 shooter today after insurance fully covered the loss when I lost it due to an assault, I bought a 6D and I really like it. As I do mostly low light a 6DII at 24 MP with enhanced high ISO would be a good upgrade.
Question: What IQ improvement can be expected from on chip ADC sensor tech over the current 6D, at let's say 24-28 MP? I hope they don't cross the 24 MP line...
And then I read this at the new camera site:
Hope that this isn't true. 24 MP are enough.
32MP sensor / 24.2MP mode
61 AF Points (41 cross-type)
DIGIC 7+ (Single)
7fps
ISO 100-51,200 (expandable options)
3.2″ touchscreen LCD
CFast/SD card slots
Wifi built-in
GPS built-in
BG-E20 battery grip
LP-E20 battery
Slight weight reduction
Question: What IQ improvement can be expected from on chip ADC sensor tech over the current 6D, at let's say 24-28 MP? I hope they don't cross the 24 MP line...
And then I read this at the new camera site:
Hope that this isn't true. 24 MP are enough.
32MP sensor / 24.2MP mode
61 AF Points (41 cross-type)
DIGIC 7+ (Single)
7fps
ISO 100-51,200 (expandable options)
3.2″ touchscreen LCD
CFast/SD card slots
Wifi built-in
GPS built-in
BG-E20 battery grip
LP-E20 battery
Slight weight reduction
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Silverstream said:
Very true, but you know there are a whole lot of wedding photographers who could not shoot weddings this past spring and summer because all they had were 5D Mark IIIs. Sad, isn't it?
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slclick said:
JUST this morning thinking of what a great workhorse the 24-105 is, that if I could only have one lens, that would be it, and, of course, wondering when we'd get a version II! A little better optics overall, less distortion wide, new gen IS, yes, yes, yes.
Go, Canon, go!
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:YuengLinger said:
The decision to go here after moving the 24-105 downmarket with the non-L version seems perplexing at best. The demand for a great 24-105L II is there, I have no doubt, but it seemed like Canon had abandoned the 24-105 as a higher end tool in favor of a sharper 24-70 lens.
My question is this: why did they even make the 24-70 f/4L IS, that great macro mode, etc. if you are effectively going to obsolete that lens with a new 24-105L?
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My guess/answer is that Canon was trying to die out the 24-105L and to replace it by the 24-70/4L for what ever reason (production costs, etc.) But the market denied that. So they had to make the 24-105LII.ahsanford said:
I definitly prefer the later way 8)
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ahsanford said:
An interesting question. Probably the new 24-105 will not have the macro mode, so that will be the differentiator. Or maybe the 24-70 didn't sell as much as they expected and they are effectively phasing it out, as Maximillian says.
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Maximilian said:
C_Raven said:
You're both likely correct. The 24-70 f/4L IS likely didn't perform commercially. It opened at $1,499 and plummeted in price thereafter. It's up there with the 24/28/35 IS refresh lenses in that they all are optically terrific but were ridiculously overpriced for that they offered.
I don't know what it is, but I love the IS refresh lenses and that 24-70 f/4L IS. I guess I dig less popular lenses.
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Me, too. Bought the 35/2 IS and fell in love with it. Give me more money and the other ones are mine, too.ahsanford said:I don't know what it is, but I love the IS refresh lenses and that 24-70 f/4L IS. I guess I dig less popular lenses.
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And definitly, if Canon was making "your"
50/1.x IS I'd be in the crowd for getting it as well. (Still I belive, they won't, but I'd also like a 50/1.4 w/o IS)But a f4 zoom must deliver more reach than 70 mm. So here I was always with the 24-105.
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