Canon EOS 70D Announced

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On Paper it looks very pleasing and I am sure there will be more 'Happy' posts here than the launch of 6D.
I am not a heavy user of flash but one thing which I saw in most of the 6D bashing posts was, sync speed. This new guy has 1/250 against 1/180 of 6D and max shutter speed is 1/8000, I wonder why these couldn't be added to 6D.
I wish 6D had all of this (with fixed LCD) and it would become the best budget FF camera (and not "arguably" the best). I am happy that I didn't go for 6D last month and as I don't need to replace my aging 40D in a hurry, I can still wait for 7DMk2 8)
 
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Imaging-resource says that the Canon claim is RAW ISO performance on a par with the 60D, despite packing 20 MP instead of 18. But JPEG shooters will see dramatically improved image quality thanks to Digic 5+.

That's probably gonna prove out in production testing, too, is my guess. Still early, though.

Video advance spectacular, still performance: not so much. We'll see.
 
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It actually has 40.3 Million photodiodes to form that 20.2MP sensor.

R0x0rs: Dual-Pixel CMOS AF works for 80% of the sensor area up to f/11 & EV 0, AFMA, +/-5EV EC, ±3 AEB (2, 3, 5, 7 frames at 1/3 EV, 1/2 EV steps), stereo microphone onboard, EOS-1N level of weathersealing, Timelapse recording (by USB cable and PC), 1/250 X-sync, fully articulated touchscreen LCD, dedicated focus area expansion button (although not programmable like the M.Fn button), wireless flash commander, fully-featured WiFi control implementation

Sux0rs: only 1 SD slot, only 98% 0.95x mag VF, only single-axis electronic level, no PC sync terminal, Rebel-class E3-type instead of N3-type remote terminal, no headphone jack, odd DOF preview button placement, JPEG-only HDR & Multi-Exposure, only 1 Custom dial setting, no AF point selection joystick


70D weather sealing graphic from DPR:
sealing-001.jpg
 
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great , this sensor based AF is the future because this really helps getting rid of the annoying mirror, the slapping mirror is not really needed for digital sensored cameras.

fast LV AF is very important , if you shoot events with DSLR over crowds, you know it, the fast sensor based phase detection AF combined with swiveling screen is really interesting.

but too bad it does not have 60p, I probably get this one for testing soon any way, though.
I love the small body of this camera and I actually like the look of it too.
But I hope next 5D gets this sensor based AF tech and swiveling screen +4k raw video, and hopefully usable ISO6400(I do not consider ISO6400 of any current camera usable at all).

any way, it is a great move and I much prefer this over any APS-C camera out there.
 
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-Jarred- said:
360 degree mode dial. That'll please some people ;)
Not me though. I like the stop in the dial in the 7D, as it makes it easier to use it blind (with eye in the viewfinder), mainly switching between the three custom modes. In particular moving to C3 is very easy, just move it as far as it goes.
 
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Frost said:
Strobists will be happy if the spec list at B&H is correct.

Max sync = 250th of a second.

And another first....

It has a focus assist (AF) beam.

2, until now, Nikon only perks.

Not sure where you're getting your information from.

X-sync on the 7D, 60D, 50D, and several others are 1/250th. That's nothing new, and certainly nothing that was ever a Nikon only perk.

AF Beam? Do you mean the integrated speedlight controller? Also on both the 7D and 60D. And I don't believe Nikon has that feature (but may be mistaken). If you did mean AF assist beam, they both had that too, as do (I think, maybe Rebels lack it?) all other models with a built in flash. So it's hardly a novel feature.
 
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papa-razzi said:
I think this spells the end of 7D sales, and the resale value of the 7D should also take a big hit.

The only thing the 70D gives up to the 7D is 1 fps (8 fps vs 7fps).

Burst length is also shorter (presumably mainly due to bigger file sizes).

It also loses pretty big in ergonomics: only one custom mode, much less customizable buttons, no joystick. Having used 7D and 60D side by side I find the latter much clumsier and slower to use.

If the image quality and high ISO performance is good. (which is the 7D's biggest weakness, so it isn't hard to beat it), it is game over for the 7d.
Could be. But it is missing enough of the high-end features (customizability, weather sealing) of the 7D it clearly leaves room for a 7D2.
 
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While the specs are great and I'm loving the previews, I hate the press release. Nikon's D7100, a very comparable camera, is described as an "enthusiast camera" for "experienced shooters" so they can "capture their vision." Sounds good. Canon calls this an "aspiring enthusiast" camera. Not even an enthusiast but one who aspires to be one and is called a camera so people can "develop their skills." Really? Makes it sound like a toy for little kids. I know its not a big deal but I think they should've chosen better language.
 
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scuba_steve said:
I have inferred from the specs on this page that the 70D just has one custom user setting/mode:

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/digital_slr_cameras/eos_70d#Specifications

Creative Zone
(1) Program AE (shiftable)
(2) Shutter-priority AE
(3) Aperture-priority AE
(4) Manual exposure
(5) Bulb
(6) Custom shooting mode

"mode" singular.

Dang. Am I the only one here who uses these modes...and who actually wants at least three? My 40D has three, but it seems like Canon decided some time ago that this is yet another way that they are going to differentiate between their pro and their prosumer DSLRs -- by dropping a setting that costs almost nothing to add, has fit on bodies with program modes for years, has value to many (I am assuming), and can be ignored by others.

Do I have to pay 2 grand or more to get a Canon body that has more than one custom user setting? Grrrrr.

When I see stuff like this, what comes to mind is something that I read in a 6D review somewhere, which was generally along the lines of Nikon seemed to stuff as many D800 features as possible in the D600, while Canon seems to leave things out just for product differentiation. Of course, I have way too much Canon glass to start threatening to walk, but I reserve the right to complain. ;)

Here's hoping that this thing is a low-light monster...because my 40D is long overdue for the pasture. :)

well, as a D600/D800 owner , I must say they are good but nothing revolutionary or amazing.
on paper they look great but they have lots of issues , or more precisely design flaws.
I think many people just shooting one brand see the other side of green always greener but it is not.
after all the D800 hyep, it is nothing special, just a lot of pixels on the sensor ,with a lot of high end but old gen techs, that's it.
it has terrible LV , green LCD , misaligned finder, etc.
the D600 is even worse, I have feeling Nikon just focus on how to make the spec sheets appealing to naive public but tends to ignore something that can not be seen in the spec sheets such as build quality and quality of white letters on the buttons of its cameras, or LV implementation.
my D800 is weaker than my D700 was, and the aF of the D4 is a bit less sure than that of the D3s ,etc.
and Nikon tends to ignore real new tech such as sensor based PDAF or 4k video, but always want to make sound overly good on paper by putting its best AF (albeit the old tech)into even a cheap body like the D7100.
but carefully checking through it , you will find there is nothing new about the D7100 except the 1.3X crop mode.

and despite of what DXO says the D7100 is the noisiest camera at that price range , it is literally useless from ISO800, even my D800E is extremely noisy at ISO640 and on.
Nothing is perfect but I think Nikon should try harder to improve the video part of its cameras and should also try to develop new gen AF for post slapping mirror gen cameras.
if you keep whining about how bad Canon is compared to Nikon,then you should get a Nikon or just add it in addition to your current set , then you know the grass of Nikon side is not greener.
it is a matter of one's preference not which is better thing.
I think any one can remove the annoying slapping mirror from its pro level D-SLR fast will be the final winner.
And I believe this type of PDAF on the sensor might be the future and eventually help Canon to remove the mirror and go fully EVF.
 
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that1guyy said:
While the specs are great and I'm loving the previews, I hate the press release. Nikon's D7100, a very comparable camera, is described as an "enthusiast camera" for "experienced shooters" so they can "capture their vision." Sounds good. Canon calls this an "aspiring enthusiast" camera. Not even an enthusiast but one who aspires to be one and is called a camera so people can "develop their skills." Really? Makes it sound like a toy for little kids. I know its not a big deal but I think they should've chosen better language.
I seriously doubt marketing tag lines are going to make people think that it is a "toy for kids" ... besides every photographers is always is aspiring to "develop their skills" regardless of their current skill level.
 
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MLfan3 said:
great , this sensor based AF is the future because this really helps getting rid of the annoying mirror, the slapping mirror is not really needed for digital sensored cameras.

fast LV AF is very important , if you shoot events with DSLR over crowds, you know it, the fast sensor based phase detection AF combined with swiveling screen is really interesting.

but too bad it does not have 60p, I probably get this one for testing soon any way, though.
I love the small body of this camera and I actually like the look of it too.
But I hope next 5D gets this sensor based AF tech and swiveling screen +4k raw video, and hopefully usable ISO6400(I do not consider ISO6400 of any current camera usable at all).

any way, it is a great move and I much prefer this over any APS-C camera out there.

It'll be interesting to see how this compares with the AF systems of Canon's mirrorless rivals, if it beats them then that likely changes that market a good deal.
 
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I recall reading a while back when the EOS 100D (Rebel SL1) was announced (and being slagged off by some) that there's no such thing as a bad camera, but it depends if it has the features you personally want.

I've been looking to replace my 40D and for me personally the 70D is pretty much all I want. Yes, I'd have liked built in *** too & a magnesium body (which I don't think it has?) & joystick like the 40D but I can live without them.

An earlier poster mentioned only one CF function - I beleive my 40D has 3 but I'n not sure as I've never used even one. Most CSC cameras that come out don't interest me as I'd never buy a camera (even a compact) without a viewfinder but it clearly doesn't bother many buyers....

So, it's all down to personal preferences - what do YOU consider important features. For me personally, the 70D ticks pretty much all the boxes & I'll be getting one later in the year once the dust settles & reviews are in :)
 
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http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/Digital_SLR/EOS_70D/index.aspx

Things I like:

New 20mp sensor
AF system
ISO range
7 fps
AF microadjustment +/- 20 steps
Integrated speedlite transmitter
1/250 x-sync
Flash exposure compensation +/- 3EV in 1/2 or 1/3 increments (+/- 2 on my 550D)
1/8000 shutter speed
98% viewfinder coverage

Like the look of this camera for the price. I know I won't get FF image quality but the new sensor should be enough of an upgrade for my 550D.
 
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I think the most interesting thing about this camera is what we now can expect from the 7DII and the other pro-grade bodies we are waiting for.

It's no point releasing an upgrade to the 7D, unless it has significant performance/feature improvements over the 70D. And if that happens, we should be in for some real treats when we approach the 5DIV, 3D, 1DXI etc.

The only problems I see are patience and funding ... :P
 
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Just two quick comments from me:

1. The much touted AF improvement seems to have improved Live View performance, I'm not reading this as saying it will improve AF performance through the View Finder. So perhaps more of a videographer's advantage that say an action/bird photographer?

2. Nowhere in the promoted features does it mention enhanced noise performance. I'm pretty certain that if Canon had managed noise free images at say ISO 800/1600, it would've been a headline feature.

I seen images on a Nikon D4 (I know I'm pitching FF against crop here) with relatively clean images at ISO 12800!!!!

Overall, I'm pretty impressed with the 70D. Seems to be some of the advancement us Canonites were looking for?
 
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