Canon EOS 7D Mark II Spec List [CR2]

[unfocused]

...Have a look at Thom Hogan's article entitled 'The Last Camera Syndrome'. We are getting there, if not there already.

Thanks for the recommendation. He's saying something that I've been seriously thinking about. Lots of people complain that recent upgrades are only marginal improvements, but that's kind of the point with technology isn't it. The first couple generations of DSLRs saw major improvements, but with each successive generation, the "real estate" available for improvement gets smaller and smaller.

I love my 7D. I believe I am a generation or two away from my "last 7D." But, I can see the end of the tunnel.

On the other hand if I were in the market for a full-frame body, the current 5DIII probably has everything I would ever want.

 

[Don Haines]

You characters can argue till the cows come home... but I'd buy one with those specs and that price, and in the end, that's what matters to Canon. People will buy them.

 

[jimjamesjimmy]

im not arguing with anyone, im just not gonna be called an idiot for asking a question.

 

[unfocused]

cant i ask why 6d hasnt got the features the 7d has? if im paying more money for something that is supposedly above it in a camera range (going from 1-7, generally the cameras get better and more expensive) then surely i can ask why the 7d has so many more af points or a better body casing or a better iso performance etc etc

the people on here are seriously up themselves sometimes. im guesing that comes with the vast disposable incomes most seem to have.

You can ask anything you want.

Here are the answers:

In the 6D you are paying for a full frame sensor, which is much more expensive to manufacture than an APS-C sensor. This has been discussed on this forum and on others many, many times. Canon even has a white paper on it.

Model numbers don't have to mean anything. There is no law that says that the order in which cameras are named makes one better than another. People get hung up on the numbers. What's the point? Who cares? Nobody even knows the model numbers except geeks anyway.

 

[mycanonphotos]

After seeing this spec list, being an owner of the 5D3 and 7D.....I'll stick with what I have....only if the ISO is dramatically better then what it is now and only better than the 5D3 will I think about buying a new crop body in the 7DII.. not really intrested in the added AF..could care less about the GPS and WI-FI..my main concern is the sensor quality, dynamic range, ISO performance and zone metering...if its built like the 7D Im cool with that..perhaps put a better humb wheel in...

 

[dtaylor]

Canon cannot put the same AF-system like the 5D Mark III´s in an 7D Mark II for the mentioned price. So don´t expect it.

Canon could put the 1DX's AF system in every body they've got. The AF components are among the cheapest to manufacture. Like everyone else they use AF specs to segment the market, but the 1DX AF is not actually hundreds of dollars more to manufacture then the Rebel's AF.

Whether or not they will put the 5D3's AF in the 7D2 remains to be seen.

 

[Marsu42]

Whether or not they will put the 5D3's AF in the 7D2 remains to be seen.

Completely different size aps-c vs ff... but that is not necessarily a bad thing since it's probably easier to put a larger af point spread in a aps-c than a ff, so the 7d2 af might even have an edge for tracking across the whole frame.

cant i ask why 6d hasnt got the features the 7d has? if im paying more money for something that is supposedly above it in a camera range (going from 1-7, generally the cameras get better and more expensive) then surely i can ask why the 7d has so many more af points or a better body casing or a better iso performance etc etc

Except for the price of the ff sensor there is a decisive difference - the 6d has a big brother and Canon doesn't want to cannibalize their 5d3 sales, while the 7d2 will be the top of the aps-c line so Canon can put everything in it and people will still pay the price because aps-c and ff have different markets (sports/wildlife vs portrait/event). If and when the 70d arrives you'll see the the same feature-cut procedure of the 6d again.

 

[Don Haines]

im not arguing with anyone, im just not gonna be called an idiot for asking a question.

I thought yours was a good question.....


Features don't necessaraly go with the "pro-ness" of the body. They have to be released at some time..... it may end up being a case of "from this time on the camerta gets x". For example, look at WiFi.... first on the T4i ( actually first on the p/s's...), then the 6D comes out with wifi.... and now it's a good bet that every body that comes out will have it. As things trickle through the product life cycles, you end up with the interesting situation where low end cameras have it but the "pro" ones don't....

You can't think of FF and APS-C as being the same line of cameras.... FF starts with the 6D, then 5DIII, then the 1 series... Introductory, enthusiast, pro. APS-C equivalent is the Rebels, 60D (70D?), and 7D(2?).... introductory, enthusiast, pro. move up the line and sealing gets better, frame rate improves, and features improve.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

how can a 7d be professional, and a 6d be semi professional? the numbers literally dont add up! surely a FF camera has to be better than an aps-c in terms of spec. 9 af points vs 61 is just crazy!!

Why not?
APS-H is not full frame, but it was considered a professional camera compared to a full frame like a 5D ... so it is possible to make an APS-C camera that can be considered a professional camera, especially for budget conscious sports photographers if the 7D II has 10 fps and all the other goodies that were mentioned.

 

[Stewbyyy]

A 1.6 crop sensor AND a 24mp image to crop into? Talk about reach... sounds too good to be true. If image quality is good, that is.

 

[Aglet]

If it had the sensor quality of at least a Nikon 3200 and some revolutionary new AF system that would drastically reduce my f/1.8 lowlight misses, I would consider it.

+1
Canon's new APS-C flagship better have at least the sensor performance of their main competitor's cheapest, entry-level, base camera.
Oh, if only they could...

 

[that1guyy]

magic lantern?

I'd prefer something officially supported - botching a production because of something unexpected happening in conjunction with a hack would seriously suck.

Well thousands use it on pro gigs with no problems.

Anyways, magic lantern is installed on an sd card. If something is not working, just use another card.

 

[skycolt]

I like everything in the spec except 24MP sensor. I like a clean sensor rather than a high MP one. I don't like the big file size it generated. And it may be too critical for my lenses and I have to put more money on better lenses again. for me, 18MP is already too much. I don't know the resolution limit of 400mm 2.8 and 500mm f4. I definitively don't want to buy them in the near future. But maybe canon can add some algorithm to generate better s/mRAW files

 

[Powder Portraits]

I can't wait. Will start saving my money now. Hopefully their will be a little price break right before Xmas 2013.

 

[jrista]

gps and wifi can be dropped, who needs that on a wildlife camera? (ok gps might be handy..., but i wanna choose)

Other then that the specs look what i hoped for..., if this is true i am very likely to use this on a long lens and the 1dmkiv on a 70-200'ish

Now just hope it gets announced soon and that the specs will be like that!

Well, if you have a little bit of imagination... Keep in mind, big desktop PC's are no longer the primary platform for computing. I would LOVE to have BOTH GPS and WiFi in my DSLR. Obviously GPS, so I can track where I took my photos without having to go through the process manually in post (which can take hours for a lot of photos). WiFi, because I can have a tablet (Surface Pro in my case) off in my car, tethered to my phone which is acting like a wireless hotspot. I can either buy an app (if one exists) or write an app (its really easy these days) to automatically receive incoming photos from my camera as I take them, organize and archive them, possibly even upload copies and JPEGs to my SkyDrive for backup if I am within range of a cell phone tower (which, in my case, is often the case as I photograph birds at the local state parks and reserves within or near city boundaries, etc.

The world is no longer bound to processing your photos on a desktop. Don't get me wrong...I'll NEVER give up my desktop...that puppy is a beast that has the power to drive high megapixel processing of my photos in that power-sucking tool we all love to hate: Lightroom. But a lot of cool things can be done out in the field, so long as you are within range, using a smartphone, a tablet, and a wifi connection. The backup opportunities alone, when within range of a cell tower, could be huge! Obviously if you are way out in the middle of nowhere, these benefits diminish...however being able to tether the camera to a tablet as a means of extra storage at the very least, with the tablet powered by your car's battery, is still a handy convenience and a useful bonus.

 

[jrista]

I like everything in the spec except 24MP sensor. I like a clean sensor rather than a high MP one. I don't like the big file size it generated. And it may be too critical for my lenses and I have to put more money on better lenses again. for me, 18MP is already too much. I don't know the resolution limit of 400mm 2.8 and 500mm f4. I definitively don't want to buy them in the near future. But maybe canon can add some algorithm to generate better s/mRAW files

If the sensor is fabricated on a 180nm design with higher Q.E., those 24mp could look FAR better than the 18mp the original 7D has now. It all depends on whether Canon ups the ante on sensor tech, or just moves to a higher pixel count. If the former, technically speaking, there is never anything "bad" about more resolution. Even if the sensor outresolves your lens, if you scale down to 18mp, 16mp, or anything "web sized", it will still look better than the 7D...you won't see any softness when scaled down, even with lenses that might not quite be good enough.

For all the rest of us who have or are willing to buy better glass, the higher resolution means more reach, so our expensive glass goes that much farther. I'm all for 24.1mp....assuming Canon actually moves to a new process and makes those 24 million pixels BETTER.

 

[Marsu42]

magic lantern?

I'd prefer something officially supported - botching a production because of something unexpected happening in conjunction with a hack would seriously suck.

Well thousands use it on pro gigs with no problems.
Anyways, magic lantern is installed on an sd card. If something is not working, just use another card.

... or just simply press the SET key when starting the camera, ml will disable itself and it'll be like a clean sd card.

 

[zim]

Wonder how sensitive the centre AF point will be, down to -3?

 

[viggen61]

No that's the wrong way of looking at it.
The 6D is pitched as an 'entry level' or first time FF body.
The 7D line is the 'high end' Crop body.

Precisely!

Counting my pennies...

 

[ishdakuteb]

i am in for one as long as canon can make it low noise at high iso (do not really much care about luminosity noise, but color noise is annoying). cannot imagine that 61 new focus points speading through out corner of the screen... love it

note: do not forget about trying to add an option which toggles between AE Lock Hold and AE Lock Cancel, pefer not to keep my thumb full time on a button for holding exposure... my thumb should be on my joint stick to select my desired focus point