I am usually in Av mode (mostly take pictures of people rather than action), and have the front wheel set to change aperture. To change the focus point (I almost always use single point AF) I press the AF point selector button first, then quickly move the AF point using front and/or back wheels. For me, this is still faster than using the joystick, which I need to press once for every AF point move. So going from the rightmost to the leftmost AF point in the 5D4 takes 10 clicks using the joystick, but only one press on the AF point selector button and a quick rotation of the wheel.Because most people using the AF point selection are also using at a minimum Av or Tv and likely M mode, so the dial and control wheel are already allocated to exposure controls ( shutter and aperture respectively ).
I wouldn't want to cognitive load of trying to remember whether the wheel was setting aperture or focus point when following an aeroplane from shadow into light and desperately trying to stop-down...
No, I don't shoot birds, nor do I frequently shoot in rapidly changing lighting conditions. Therefore exposure parameters get changed much less frequently than AF points (which I move almost always between shots). And that's why I prefer to quickly change the AF point using the wheels instead of the joystick, at the cost of one extra press of the AF point selector button, and the need to set aperture and/or speed before AF point selection. I don't think I could manage to consciously set all three - aperture, speed, and AF point - simultaneously anyway.You obviously are not in a hurry when you shoot with 5D4! Do you shoot birds?
I use one wheel to choose speed, one to choose aperture (Using Manual with auto iso) and the joystic to chose AF points. Even with portrait shooting joystic helps a lot. Of course YMMV.
Dual card slots in an "80D Mark II" so to speak is a hint towards a 7D2 replacement type of camera. The 90D may be really the 7D Mark II replacement and have all the bells and whistles of the 7D2 and then some.A 7D replacement will require that joy stick you said, Quick Control Dial (regular size, not mini), and non-articulating LCD. Otherwise it’s a 80D mark II.
Have you try to shoot full frame? image quality difference is night and day. compare to price difference.Watch the 90D outsell the RP and R put together. Canon won't kill a market segment they sell so many units in. The R seems like a great camera, but it's $2k body only. The RP is crippled and with one decent RF lens is $2k+. Meanwhile, the 90D will be available with a decent selection of cheap EFS lenses, that many already have. For many, it will get the job done at a much lower price point.
Canon won't abandon a market. But, the market is abandoning them. Sales of all cameras are dropping and expected to keep going south. The cost to produce and service a camera model is high and requires a minimum level of sales to sustain. Stocking spare parts, training service techs, it all adds up. Then, there is the consumer demand for mirrorless that competes for resources. That means the least profitable cameras may go away. If someone else wants to make them and lose money, they may pay the price, or maybe the market will support one manufacturer but not many. Its a unfortunate situation, but many buyers are happy with camera phones.My current 7DMII has 386,000 clicks on it and is rated for 200,000. I've got some big trips in the next 6 mo--puffins and sea birds off Scotland, then on to Grimsey Is off Iceland for more of the same, brown bears in Alaska, and finally ending the year in South Georgia and the Falklands for more penguins and the birds of the Southern Seas. I bought the R for my wide angle/landscape camera but I've been hamstrung by Canon over what to do about my crop sensor wildlife camera. Last week I finally gave up and bought a new gray market 7DMII to get me through the rest of the year until I see what happens with Canon over the next 6 mo to year. The couple who are leading the Bear shoot have been life long Canon shooters and multiple BBC/Nature Best winners and in the last several months switched to the Olympus OMD EM MIX. Will be interesting to check out their systems this summer. I love Canon's system but looks like they are abandoning the crop sensor wildlife market.
I don't see this happening. Ordering, installing, and maintaining one type of slot is simpler and cheaper than two. E.g. Canon wouldn't want to delay fixing a camera because the UHS-x slot is broken, but the local shop doesn't have one in stock, or a technician mistakenly fixing a UHS-II slot by replacing it with a UHS-I slot.If it gets dual SD card one will be UHS-II and other will be UHS-1. Anything more consider that as bonus.
I rarely use it for the speed but do use it for the reach effect so that I don't have to use as heavy equip when hand holding to get the same reach as full frame.Canon won't abandon a market. But, the market is abandoning them. Sales of all cameras are dropping and expected to keep going south. The cost to produce and service a camera model is high and requires a minimum level of sales to sustain. Stocking spare parts, training service techs, it all adds up. Then, there is the consumer demand for mirrorless that competes for resources. That means the least profitable cameras may go away. If someone else wants to make them and lose money, they may pay the price, or maybe the market will support one manufacturer but not many. Its a unfortunate situation, but many buyers are happy with camera phones.
I had purchased almost every APS-C model over the years, but not a 7D MK II, The low light performance of APS C limits the 7D MK II to situations where there is more light than my 5D MK IV or EOS R requires, so I use FF. I do not need 10 FPS either, even with my high FPS 1 series cameras, I preferred to use 1 shot rather than sorting thru hundreds of rapid fire photos. I can see where some people need it, but I am part of the reason Canon is seeing slower sales of the 7D MK II.