Canon EOS M2 Not Coming to North America

[Canon Rumors]

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<p><strong>From Canon USA

</strong>Myself and <a href="http://www.the-digital-picture.com/News/News-Post.aspx?News=8488" target="_blank">Bryan over at TDP</a> were told by Canon USA contacts that there was “no announcement of the EOS M2 by Canon USA planned.” I also spoke with contacts in Norway and the UK, and both also said the same thing. I spoke earlier today with a contact at Canon Canada, and he hadn’t heard about the M2 until I mentioned it.</p>
<p>So it looks like the EOS M2 is going to be an Asia only product for the foreseeable future.</p>
<p>I was so bummed about the news <a href="https://twitter.com/canonrumorsguy/status/407949554605375490/photo/1" target="_blank">I went and picked one of these up</a>……..</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[jebrady03]

if they were going to announce it, say for instance after the new year, do you think they would tell you right now?

 

[preppyak]

if they were going to announce it, say for instance after the new year, do you think they would tell you right now?

You'd think they would at least say "it will possibly come to the US".

But, the way Canon seems to do their leaks, they care a lot about making people think a product is coming to keep them from buying something else. The fact they just dropped this from nowhere and didnt mention a US presence makes me think it ain't coming to the US unless its a massive hit in Asia

 

[jebrady03]

What I'm getting at is, would these people even know? Realistically, no one knew anything truly specific about the launch of the M2 until yesterday?

 

[skfla]

was anyone here really excited about this anyway? Digic 5? AF speed 21/4 times faster than what, the original M speed-original w/ updated firmware speed? I think most here would just pass on this one & wait for either another clearinghouse sale or the next level up becoming available. & given the SL1 sales, the general public may have done the same. I am a little surprised by their limited lens offerings on this line though

 

[Loswr]

For one thing, in the USA there is no way that an end to launched at $800 could compete with the current M priced $500 cheaper. There seem to be quite a few of those in retail channels right now.

Much like the Rebel/xxxD line, this update is very incremental. I don't think Canon believes many people will upgrade from one model year to the next at this consumer level of camera. These annual refreshes seem intended more to keep the product fresh, as in not outdated, on the consumer market. That motivation may be even more true in Asia.

I suspect (hope?) that when a version of the M with the 70D's sensor is released, Canon USA will bring that one to market.

 

[BozillaNZ]

Is Canon fscking kidding? I can't see any meaningful difference between this camera and the previous one. Still no PDAF, no added controls, no onboard bounce-able flash, no EVF, no tilt screen, no nothing?! Oh yeah and the same old sh!t 18MP APS-C sensor with horrible DR and high ISO!

This is getting bored and I am so glad I started my small kit with the M43!

Canon, you are burning your customer's patience. And when that is gone, you will pay the price.

I started winding down my EF collection because I don't see Canon being a viable platform in 3-5 years anymore!

24L II is up for sale. Then the 16-35 II, sigh...

</rant>

 

[jrista]

For one thing, in the USA there is no way that an end to launched at $800 could compete with the current M priced $500 cheaper. There seem to be quite a few of those in retail channels right now.

Much like the Rebel/xxxD line, this update is very incremental. I don't think Canon believes many people will upgrade from one model year to the next at this consumer level of camera. These annual refreshes seem intended more to keep the product fresh, as in not outdated, on the consumer market. That motivation may be even more true in Asia.

I suspect (hope?) that when a version of the M with the 70D's sensor is released, Canon USA will bring that one to market.

With Sony now offering FF mirrorless, I don't really think Canon can compete in the US market without something comparable...and something with a particular edge (like DPAF, or even QPAF.) I don't care much for the Sony brand, but they are certainly putting up a lot of competition. The piddly little old EOS-M2, priced at $800, doesn't stand a chance in the US. Maybe they will release the FF EOS-MX in 2015...with a 54mp sensor...

 

[sailingsilkeborg]

"Myself and Bryan... were told by Canon..."?

I don't like to be too nit-picky about grammar, since this site is supposed to be far more about photography and gear than it is about English, but... "Myself and Bryan..."? You've got to be kidding. How about, "Canon told Bryan and me..."?

 

[mountain_drew]

I have a pretty basic setup so I'll be getting rid of my stuff to jump to Sony too.

 

[dufflover]

Canon, you are burning your customer's patience. And when that is gone, you will pay the price.
...
</rant>

Definitely agree, though the latter probably won't come true for a while if ever.
If they made the size reduction a priority (which does mean an articulating screen, flash and EVF might make way for that), they could have still at least done more with the insides, namely that sensor. At rumoured $600 it's going down the exact same path as the original M. Except not even available in other markets.

(Hopefully including the same clear out soon after at a price where it's actually competitive ...)

 

[hiplnsdrftr]

you... we're probably better off with a Panasonic GM1 or Ricoh GR anyways. I imagine that Olympus and Sony maybe sell a decent small camera as well?

I just recently wore out my GF1 and will likely buy a GR this week.

Oh yeah, and then there's all the stuff from Fuji...

 

[eml58]

I certainly had hopes that Canon would go quite a bit farther with the M system, I own the current version, not a bad Camera, but not a good camera either when I look at what it needs to be a reasonably developed back up to my 1Dx & a possible replacement for my 5DMK III, the current M doesn't do it.

But the Image files aren't too bad from the current M, absence of a viewfinder is a big issue for me after having the current M, in day light the screen is almost useless.

So, my a7r arrived 3 days ago, still trying to work through the Menu system, not as bad as the Nikon System, but takes a while to work out.

Nice size, has a viewfinder, takes some getting used to but I like the viewfinder on a7r.

I was concerned after reading reports that the auto focus would be quite slow, but I'm using the a7r in dim lighting, very dim, and it focusses just fine quick & accurate. Files look very good to date but I'm yet to really put the is camera to the test considering the choices of Lens, well, make that choice, in Singapore the only Lens available is the Zeiss 35f/2.8, which is a lovely Lens, 55 arrives sometime late December.

Once I get a WA ( 15F/2.8 ) & a Macro ( 100f/2.8 ), I'll try & get the a7r into a Underwater housing, I have high hopes the a7r could replace my 5DMK III for underwater Imaging.

Like the Camera so far, has a load of the things I had hoped Canon might put into V2 of the M.

Image was shot with the M.

 

[zlatko]

Is Canon fscking kidding? I can't see any meaningful difference between this camera and the previous one. Still no PDAF, no added controls, no onboard bounce-able flash, no EVF, no tilt screen, no nothing?! Oh yeah and the same old sh!t 18MP APS-C sensor with horrible DR and high ISO!

This is getting bored and I am so glad I started my small kit with the M43!

Canon, you are burning your customer's patience. And when that is gone, you will pay the price.

I started winding down my EF collection because I don't see Canon being a viable platform in 3-5 years anymore!

24L II is up for sale. Then the 16-35 II, sigh...

</rant>

So even though Canon currently offers about twelve EOS cameras and about 70 EOS lenses, and fantastic wireless flashes and other accessories, the introduction of this one little $600 camera at the bottom of the EOS line in Asia only makes you conclude that Canon will not be a "viable platform". Because you are personally moving to a smaller format, you conclude that the entire EOS platform won't be "viable"?

 

[Ruined]

Is this really a big surprise? With the abysmal sales of the EOS M combined with the general poor sales of mirrorless, there is not much market to win in the US. Further, Canon showed many signs of this ahead of time with the EOS M firesale plus the refusal to release the 11-22 lens...

 

[arbitrage]

Well I'm glad I picked up a Fuji XE-2 with kit lens and the 23 f/1.4 That kit puts the EOS M2 to shame and I chose the Fuji over the A7r, because I don't want giant lenses on my mirror less body. I'll save my giant lenses for the 1DX.

 

[candc]

Somebody tell metabones to hurry up and make a speedbooster/salesbooster for the m!

 

[Deleted member 7828]

Sounds like it's only a minor upgrade anyway. It doesn't even have the 70D's dual pixel technology, so no big loss as far as I'm concerned. I do have the original M.

 

[BozillaNZ]

So even though Canon currently offers about twelve EOS cameras and about 70 EOS lenses, and fantastic wireless flashes and other accessories, the introduction of this one little $600 camera at the bottom of the EOS line in Asia only makes you conclude that Canon will not be a "viable platform". Because you are personally moving to a smaller format, you conclude that the entire EOS platform won't be "viable"?

No, that's not the only time Canon let users down. They just seem to stuck in the old sensor era and for several previously released products, I don't see any evidence that they will ever come up with a camera that has better sensor than last 2-3 generations, while the gap between them and the competition is widening - fast.

From current situation, I can envision that in 5 years time, other systems will have a FF sensor of 40MP no-AA sensor with 15-16 stops of DR and good ISO, while Canon still keeps cranking out the pathetic 18MP APS-C sensors. And I'm saying that with a high probability of it becoming the fact.

Sure, we can all fool ourselves to say that the 5D3 sensor is good enough. But for how long? How long can you fool yourself for?

It's again pathetic to see that the brilliant 24-70 II on 5D3 would only give you the worse quality photo as the Tammy on a D800E in terms of resolution only (forget about DR). Good glass being wasted.

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/01/a-24-70mm-system-comparison

 

[privatebydesign]

Well I'm glad I picked up a Fuji XE-2 with kit lens and the 23 f/1.4 That kit puts the EOS M2 to shame and I chose the Fuji over the A7r, because I don't want giant lenses on my mirror less body. I'll save my giant lenses for the 1DX.

Well at $1,399 for a body and kit lens and $899 for the additional lens I would hope it would put my $299 kit to shame!