Canon EOS R5 launch price will be below $4000 USD [CR3]

[sryan]

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Can you please provide us with just one still shot of the R6? You said you had a video of the camera with an IBIS test but also gave a verbal description of the more curved body. Just one still shot? Thanks.

 

[12Broncos]

What the heck, July now?!!! I'm tired of waiting for just a bloody announcement. Last I looked an announcement isn't going to get COVID-19, in fact an announcement doesn't care about COVID-19. This is ridiculous!

 

[RBSfphoto]

Not at all, the R5 is not a sports shooter (from what we know so far), it will not win over OVF shooters (myself included), it is not as rugged as the 1DXIII, it will definitely not be used at the Olympics, etc. The 1D series has always been a specialist camera, which is a niche that the R5 does not fill; pricing is not everything; that's like saying it will render the C200 obsolete just because it is cheaper and on paper has some better video features.

yeah, but the format of the c200 is different. Much like sports shooters, cinematographers have very specific jobs to do and the user experience of the c200 is very different than a hybrid camera. Not that it won't take some of those sales but c200 and 1dXIII are niche products for specific use cases and the 5 line of cameras are much more general-purpose it is not all about specs.

 

[usern4cr]

I've been holding to my guess of the R5 at $2999 to $3499. I'm still going to hope that's what it comes out at, but at least I know it will be very close either way.

 

[Michael Clark]

Or maybe it’s better, considering the fact the R5 has eye, body and face detect for both humans and animals.

Maybe, but my guess is not by much, if any.

Field reports from those using the 1D X Mark III indicate it does very well with face detect and eye detect for both humans and animals, both in Live View and with OVF based PDAF.

 

[Michael Clark]

Thank you for the reply. I didn’t word that correctly in the first place.....I meant would there still be some sort of stabilization such as in-camera, which you said would remain, and makes sense. The idea that this will be the equivalent of having a stabilized lens on the body is a great selling point. Someone else said Canon did it right, and they sure did with their adaptors. Thanks again.

Keep in mind that, as Dr. Toast pointed out above, the same amount of sensor movement provides less and less benefit as the focal length increases and the angle of view decreases. Or to put it another way, the same amount of camera movement creates more blur as the focal length increases. SO IBIS will not be nearly as effective at 400mm as it would be at, say, 50mm.

 

[Michael Clark]

Remember how Tesla sells Model 3 and Model Y?

Nope. They're way out of my price range.

 

[SpaceGhost1969]

$3999 was my prediction for a long time. Sony killer at that price. Will sell lots of expensive RF lenses.

I think a lot of folks will buy the body yet continue to use the EF glass with an adapter. This will allow folks to get the higher bit rate and image quality but keep that expensive glass that they have invested in over the years. I see this as being the most popular option.

 

[x4dow]

yeah, but the format of the c200 is different. Much like sports shooters, cinematographers have very specific jobs to do and the user experience of the c200 is very different than a hybrid camera. Not that it won't take some of those sales but c200 and 1dXIII are niche products for specific use cases and the 5 line of cameras are much more general-purpose it is not all about specs.

this camera will not be better than a c200 for video. Lets not compare 4k60 full sensor readout in raw, vs a line skipped moire mess of 4k120p reading 1/4 of the sensor

 

[snappy604]

I have always found that amusing; people who trash Canon at every turn then go buy an adapter and use nothing but Canon lenses on their Sony bodies. I do think the RF mount hurts Canon as well though, sure there's an adapter but with RF lenses costing more than their EF equivalents, and the fact that the new bodies aren't native to the EF mount; these factors can't help but slow adoption.



The larger sites yes (especially Amazon), but you might be surprised at how many smaller sites still don't collect taxes. Even B&H didn't collect taxes on my recent purchase. It's really based on the state the company is in, the local laws of that state, and the laws of the state that you reside in.

Ironically I tend to buy Canon bodies and 3rd party lenses like Sigma

 

[6degrees]

Nope. They're way out of my price range.

Some people even said Model 3 and Model Y are sold below the cost. But watch how Tesla kills competitors.

I would think Canon R5 price above $3500 is "more expensive" than Model 3 or Model Y. Because more people are willing to buy Model 3 or Model Y than spending $3500+ on Canon R5, including me.

 

[12Broncos]

Not at all, the R5 is not a sports shooter (from what we know so far), it will not win over OVF shooters (myself included), it is not as rugged as the 1DXIII, it will definitely not be used at the Olympics, etc. The 1D series has always been a specialist camera which is a niche that the R5 does not fill; pricing is not everything; that's like saying it will render the C200 obsolete just because it is cheaper and on paper has some better video features.
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That's odd, I heard it was going to have weathersealing, and be a wildlife photographer's dream. I'm not saying you're wrong, no offense, but I hope you are.

 

[elcapitan]

I kinda feel like someone at Canon leaked this to get reactions so they can settle on a price that captures the unprecedented demand while also making as much as they can. (Which is understandable, I guess.)

That said, I'll be happy if it's under $4k. $3500 was expected for me, and I'd still buy it at $3999, but with tax and just an extra battery that's already pretty close to $4,500, so it'd probably limit my ability to get much else.

 

[Caseydull]

Now is a good time to stock up on CF express cards. ProGrade run a sale until the end of May with -25% on all products

How do you get 25% off?? I don’t see that discount.

 

[SteveC]

R5 needs to significantly below 4k in my opinion. (just sayin')


Its experience.
It has been a 'rule of thumb' for years and is pretty accurate.

For example:
price of 1Dx3 in USA: $6500 (BHP)
price of 1Dx3 in UK: £6500 (WEX)

Used BHP and Wex as they are both large camera retailers, so 'like for like' as it were.

FYI - the NHS is awesome, and is payed through general taxation. You really cannot say 'this % of the sale price' of anything you buy if specifically for the NHS.

This is why I think we should just quote things in kwatloos.

1 kwatloo equals 1 USD equals 1 GBP equals 1 Euro. Seems to work out that way, anyhow.

 

[sanj]

Will it shoot 6k RAW? That will be great for me if it did.

 

[tpatana]

The AF performance of the 1D X Mark III in Live View is probably a better indicator of the current state of the art for main imaging sensor based AF at Canon. The R5 may or may not match that. Even when the Canon 5-series started using the same PDAF sensors as the concurrent 1-series bodies, the shot-to-shot AF consistency of the 5D Mark III and 5D Mark IV seemed to be just a tick or two off from the 1D X and 1D X Mark II, respectively.

We'll just have to wait and see.

Agreed, sometimes I shoot sports with 5D4 and 1DX (1), and 1DX has better tracking for indoor sports.

 

[wockawocka]

ahah, grey market usually only has a 10-15% saving at the start. 2-3 months later , about 30% saving. so maybe £3500 imported at start, after 2 months , about £3000.

In the case of the 5D mkiv I got in on a group buy (official UK retailer) which was £2400. £1000 off the RRP and being VAT registered at the time it cost me 2k a body. E-infin were selling them at £2695 for the first month or so then it went down to £2400(ish). I remember it fairly well as it was the first time I managed to find a UK sourced camera cheaper than import.

Canon makes a LOT on their bodies in the UK.

 

[R1-7D]

Wait, so the announcement is coming in July now and not June?

Man, the wait never ends!

 

[dwarven]

Well, that’s something. I don’t expect that anyone here believed it would be more.

There were plenty of wild overestimations lol.