Canon Sends Invitation to Dealers for Major Mirrorless Presentation Next Month
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dude said:
Canon isn't bleeding too much. Their profits were up this year, even in the DSLR market and they are somehow on the top for mirrorless cameras. Which seems rather unbelievable, but is true, apparently. If you watch videos on YouTube, last year the trend seemed to be everybody jumping ship from Canon to Sony for video. And for the last couple months, the trend seems to have reversed with a huge portion of them switching back to Canon. Primarily, it seems, the 6D. Reasons being usually less fussing with color correction in post and autofocus/ Dual Pixel AF. The swivel touch screen also gets a nod from all of them.
They're a small market, but they have a huge reach. Many of them with several million subscribers each. Hell, one of the more annoying, but at least generally honest photography channels (Froknowsphoto) has been using the 6D for most of their video.
Something I've found interesting is that nearly all of them have quit doing their videos in 4K and went back to 1080. All of them complaining about the increase in power required, longer render times, etc...
One huge mention by everybody that I've been seeing is also battery life. That seems to be a huge issue that neither Sony nor Panasonic can fix due to the physical size of their cameras. And if you're adding attachments for battery life, it seems to defeat the purpose of the smaller camera.
tl;dr: Canon is doing just fine. 4K is overhyped for most users, AF is incredibly important, ditto for battery life and color rendering out of camera. Sony will do just fine, but as some are finding out, there is more to a camera than just a sensor.
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-pekr- said:
Yes, The actual illustration has not been provided to CR, but the general outline is probably accurate.
While it finally sounds like a high end mirrorless is coming out, its not going to be a pro model. If / when one arrives is still a ways off.
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Forget square sensors, what you really want is a round sensor to make absolutely best use of the image circle.
Circular raw files? Yes, it could happen
Circular raw files? Yes, it could happen
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jolyonralph said:Forget square sensors, what you really want is a round sensor to make absolutely best use of the image circle.
Circular raw files? Yes, it could happen
If you tilt the image to get the horizon horzontal there is no change of image size, just the typical loss during that transformation - a really interesting thouht
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docsmith said:
Well, the questionnaire to the pros about mirrorless was a rumor after all. So far as I know, there is absolutely nothing to support the conclusion that this rumored questionnaire was in preparation for the design of Canon's first FF mirrorless, although several posters made that leap. It seems more likely that this questionnaire, if there was one, was for the long term planning for future generations of mirrorless.
Maybe the hole in the middle is to tease us about the size of the sensor, or maybe the mount.
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neuroanatomist said:
Over-the-top reaction. Increasing market share doesn't always mean Canon has no bleeding to stop. If they lose customers who are buying heavily into a brand, which does happen, then gaining market share for a camera body with kit lens may not mean as much. Financially this isn't good for Canon.
Yes, Canon must stop the bleeding (they have to have an answer for those leaving the Canon eco system headed off to other systems). How many M lenses are they selling vs FF E mount?
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mb66energy said:jolyonralph said:Forget square sensors, what you really want is a round sensor to make absolutely best use of the image circle.
Circular raw files? Yes, it could happen
But the next stage then would have to be circular screens, so that my "fit to screen" button would still work - where would it all end? ;D ;D
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Canon Rumors said:
Craig, is this Canon USA that you are referring to as sending out the invites?
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dude said:
They are almost certainly selling more EF-M lenses than anybody is selling FF lenses.
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In my opinion a square sensor would make sense as we could make both landscape and portrait orientated images by simply cropping the pictures while maintaining the highest 3:2 size available. A 5184 * 5184 pixel image can be cropped to 5184 * 3456 (landscape) and 3456 * 5184 (portrait) pixel. On a Full Frame camera this could be called the Crop Factor.
On the other hand a circular camera with a circular sensor and the buttons arranged in a circle around the circular screen would also be interesting.
On the other hand a circular camera with a circular sensor and the buttons arranged in a circle around the circular screen would also be interesting.
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padam said:
+1, I've been saying this for some time. Something like the RX1R cameras, the Leica Q, etc. are pricey toys for one percenters who 'need' a camera for their world travels but don't necessarily want the size / complexity of a full-fledged ILC.
And these FF style-piece rigs hold price like champs. Consider:
- The RX1R II has not dropped in MAP price of $3299 (or whatever Sony calls it) since the product was announced over two years ago.
- Everyone remember the overhyped / underspec'd retro bougie cash grab that was the Nikon Df? MAP hasn't budged in 4 years of service. They are still selling a 16 MP SLR that does not shoot video of any kind for the same $2749 it was listed at.
- The Leica Q has not changed in price since it was launched 2.5 years ago.
Canon and Nikon would give their left nut for that kind of price retention on a premium rig.
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