Canon USA Introduces New Super-Telephoto Zoom Lens, The Compact & Highly Mobile Canon EF 100-400mm f

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Wow... Canon can go just screw themselves. This lens has an awesome prices in the states... in Japan, it's 300,000 JPY which works out to $2600 USD. Guess this will be another lens I will have to purchase in the states. Man, really Canon.
 
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I looked up the old 100-400 mtf chart, and it appears that (at 400mm) the new one is allegedly cleaner with a 2x teleconverter than the old one at 400 bare naked.

That's not the highest bar to clear (I sold my 100-400 because it never felt crisp enough), but I'd take that IQ on an 800mm focal length for the price.

I'm sure the 1.4x teleconverter will prove most popular because it'll autofocus on the 7d2 without resorting to liveview.

The critical question for me: will it beat my tammy 150-600 at 500mm with a 1.4 tc? Secondarily, will the autofocus performance be significantly faster? (One would expect, I suppose.)

My, how far we've come in just nine months for those without $10k to spend on a long lens. Between the Sigma twins, the Tamron and this new Canon, it's an embarrassment of riches.
 
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Omni Images said:
I'm in Australia, I'm expecting $2500+ AU$ for this lens ... I'm totally ok with that ... check it out .. it's a great lens, even before the reviews I'm sold.

Well it just doesn't make any sense if it is made in japan. Basically they make it in japan, send it to he u.s. and then send it back and it somehow gets $400 cheaper. And if it was 2 weeks ago when the yen was stronger the price difference would have been $800. Seems like Canon USA learned from the market and Canon Japan is just acting the same as always.
 
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Lovely! 8)

Really promissing MTF.
Cool feature with the CPL hole.
Good to read it takes the TCs.

Now I only need to save the money :'( and get a decent discount. :-\
Then I'm in. :)
 
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I've been looking at those MTF charts. Have I misunderstood them, or do they indicate much better resolution WITH extenders than naked WITHOUT? How can that be? Anyone put me right?
 
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Anyone seen or heard an EU or UK price?
No price is given in the Canon EU press release.

Euros for dollars?
Pounds for dollars?
 
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sold my 70-300 L last month to consider 150-600mm, now this will change my mind.
Very good lens hood design, MTF chart is very impressive.
 
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Joey said:
I've been looking at those MTF charts. Have I misunderstood them

I'd recommend a read of: http://learn.usa.canon.com/resources/articles/2013/reading_MTF_charts.shtml and follow http://www.lensrentals.com/blog if you care about optical geekery

What I'm seeing:

1) Astigmatism with extenders: less at the wide end, more at the tele
2) Worse contrast and resolution with extenders
3) Can we trust the blue lines at the bottom? That combo can't always hit the f/8 aperture that the lines supposedly represent.
 
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squarebox said:
Omni Images said:
I'm in Australia, I'm expecting $2500+ AU$ for this lens ... I'm totally ok with that ... check it out .. it's a great lens, even before the reviews I'm sold.

Well it just doesn't make any sense if it is made in japan. Basically they make it in japan, send it to he u.s. and then send it back and it somehow gets $400 cheaper. And if it was 2 weeks ago when the yen was stronger the price difference would have been $800. Seems like Canon USA learned from the market and Canon Japan is just acting the same as always.

Canon Australia suck, I get everything Canon from Hong Kong as a grey import, saved thousands over the years and I've never had problems with warranties ;)
 
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3150 dollar (2499 euro) here in europe is a hefty price.... but i guess i will order one.
maybe it´s a typo, i hope so but i doubt it.

thought no sign of preorder option in europe yet, afaik.
 
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Lee Jay said:
jrista said:
Lee Jay said:
It IS compatible with both the 1.4x and 2x teleconverters.


Sure, but what camera body is going to AF at f/11?

The 70D and 7D2 will using dual pixel PDAF in live view. All the rest will using CDAF in live view.

that´s great for birding and sports in general.... 8)
 
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Joey said:
I've been looking at those MTF charts. Have I misunderstood them, or do they indicate much better resolution WITH extenders than naked WITHOUT? How can that be? Anyone put me right?

I have noticed the same thing. There must be a (labeling?) error of some sort.
The 2 charts showing naked lens seem to be correct, though.

Here is a comparison of "old" push-pull 100-400 [top] and new Mk. II [bottom], without extenders:

MTF-Vergleich-100-400.jpg

found at: http://www.photoscala.de/Artikel/Verbesserte-Version-EF-45-56100-400-mm-L-IS-II-USM-von-Canon
 
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lw said:
Anyone seen or heard an EU or UK price?
No price is given in the Canon EU press release.

Euros for dollars?
Pounds for dollars?

FYI
Photography Blog has it at "available in December 2014 for an estimated retail price of £1,999.99 / €2,499.99 / $2,199.99."

Also ePhotozine quote £1,999.99
 
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Jon_D said:
first lens that gets better with extenders..wow.. canon IS innovating! ;D

I don't see that in those graphs. According to my reading the full bold lines and also the bold dotted lines are every time lower when we compare the lens without extender, with 1.4 and with 2.0 and that for tele and wide side.

The MTF for this lens does look very promising. For sure the tele side, but also with a 1.4 extender on top. This lens on a 7D2 might give a very good walk around combo.

I'm very impressed with the specification of this lens. I will wait the reviews. I already own the 200-400, but for travelling light this might be a welcome situation.

Canon keeps word: year of the lens
 
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FEBS said:
Jon_D said:
first lens that gets better with extenders..wow.. canon IS innovating! ;D

I don't see that in those graphs. According to my reading the full bold lines and also the bold dotted lines are every time lower when we compare the lens without extender, with 1.4 and with 2.0 and that for tele and wide side.

really?

look closer at the 100mm 2x extender chart.
the sagittal lines seem to be better for my eyes.

and the 10 LP/mm wide open line drops.... but the f8 line seem to be higher..hard to see.
but the 10 LP/mm f8 line is clearly higher with the 2x extender than with the 1.4 extender. :)
 
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The MTF charts on Canon's website look to be correct:

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/ef_lens_lineup/ef_100_400mm_f_4_5_5_6l_is_ii_usm

Good sized hit with extenders.
 

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