No, just people who bitch and complain if there are other options available, instead of taking action.Everyone who does not like Canon's new dark zoom policy must be stupid. Yeah, got it. Be happy shooting with F8 zooms on APS-C.
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No, just people who bitch and complain if there are other options available, instead of taking action.Everyone who does not like Canon's new dark zoom policy must be stupid. Yeah, got it. Be happy shooting with F8 zooms on APS-C.
Those same 3rd-party EF lenses will work just fineBut now that Canon doesn't allow third-party RF and RF-S offerings, I guess that's not a strategy any more.
Exactly. Without a proper lens, APC cameras are awful as well. This R50 is going to flop again. R8 may shine due to the full frame issue but due to expensive lenses, people from middle-income countries will never be interested. Most people want good lenses within a budget. The 35mm 1.8 and 24mm 1.8 must be under 300-320 USD.The cameras sound great. The lenses sound awful.
Lots of people on this forum have been stating things that Canon ‘must’ do for years, which differ from what Canon actually has done. Yet somehow, Canon continues to dominate the market. That indicates pretty clearly that Canon knows very well what to do. Still, people persist in the belief that they know more about making and selling cameras than the company which has led the market for two decades. I suppose that if people want to make themselves look foolish, that’s their prerogative.Exactly. Without a proper lens, APC cameras are awful as well. This R50 is going to flop again. R8 may shine due to the full frame issue but due to expensive lenses, people from middle-income countries will never be interested. Most people want good lenses within a budget. The 35mm 1.8 and 24mm 1.8 must be under 300-320 USD.
The R50 has no such fast lens at all. And Canon's low light performance is always lower than SONY. The kit lens of Canon must start from F3.5 at least.
Maybe. But the truth is Canon force people to invest more. Canon is number one. Lots of people are used to it, they use this behavior. But it will not last long. Maybe some people are foolish but the number of some foolish people is increasing.Lots of people on this forum have been stating things that Canon ‘must’ do for years, which differ from what Canon actually has done. Yet somehow, Canon continues to dominate the market. That indicates pretty clearly that Canon knows very well what to do. Still, people persist in the belief that they know more about making and selling cameras than the company which has led the market for two decades. I suppose that if people want to make themselves look foolish, that’s their prerogative.
The EF-M 55-200 might be the poorest and least used lens in my EF-M collection. Maybe they chose to improve on it.I'm happy to hear that the R8 is an entry level Full-Frame and I'll be looking into it further.
For the R50, the Canon RF-S 18-45 f/4.5-6.3 IS STM & and especially the Canon RF-S 55-210mm f/5-7.1 IS STM seem a bit lacking in my opinion compared to the entry level EF/EF-S generation, but I guess that's the price you pay for lighter weight and smaller size and that must be what the majority of the market wants these days. I wonder why they didn't convert the EF-M 55-200mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM instead? I'm glad I got into photography in the DSLR Canon 700D days with the EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM and Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS II.
Apart from 55-200 EFM, I used EF-S-55-250 F4 to 5.6 IS STM, it is the best zoom lens ever made by Canon. Why Canon just focused on the RFS version of that lens?The EF-M 55-200 might be the poorest and least used lens in my EF-M collection. Maybe they chose to improve on it.
Flop again? Was there another R50??Exactly. Without a proper lens, APC cameras are awful as well. This R50 is going to flop again. R8 may shine due to the full frame issue but due to expensive lenses, people from middle-income countries will never be interested. Most people want good lenses within a budget. The 35mm 1.8 and 24mm 1.8 must be under 300-320 USD.
I check it with SONY ZV-10 and my M50. It was brighter footage in ZV-10 than M50 in F3.5 and ISO auto. M50 comes at 6400 ISO and ZV-10 was at 3200.Really?
Mirrorless lenses are a different optical design since the flange distance is so much shorter.Apart from 55-200 EFM, I used EF-S-55-250 F4 to 5.6 IS STM, it is the best zoom lens ever made by Canon. Why Canon just focused on the RFS version of that lens?
Oh I see, I thought you meant something else. My understanding is ISO speeds are not directly comparable between brands, the numbers are fairly arbitrary. Was it the same lens? It could be different T values if not.I check it with SONY ZV-10 and my M50. It was brighter footage in ZV-10 than M50 in F3.5 and ISO auto. M50 comes at 6400 ISO and ZV-10 was at 3200.
In another place, I kept it in my studio where I used 22m F2.0 (in my M50) with Singma 16mm 1.4 at ZV-10. But we keep the ZV-10 at 2.0. ISO was Auto----
M50 comes at 3200
ZV-10 was 2500.
It was my test and I do not know, why at the same aperture Canon always comes at a higher ISO that ZV-10.
Yes, DxOmark has plots of measured vs manufacturers iso, and they do vary between brands.Oh I see, I thought you meant something else. My understanding is ISO speeds are not directly comparable between brands, the numbers are fairly arbitrary. Was it the same lens? It could be different T values if not.
Canon isn’t forcing anyone to buy their gear, but clearly they continue to make products that a majority of photographers choose to buy.Maybe. But the truth is Canon force people to invest more. Canon is number one. Lots of people are used to it, they use this behavior.
Yes, that number has gone up by at least one.But it will not last long. Maybe some people are foolish but the number of some foolish people is increasing.
Will R50 be alike M50 (or M5)?
It wants to be outdoors in good light, but I've gotten some fantastic shots with that lens over the eight months I've had it. It's a little soft if you shoot at the far end and do some major cropping, but that's not much to complain about given everything else it does. Maybe you got a less than perfect sample? As far as the new lenses paired with the R50, though, given the specs. I would have lower expectations of their performance vs. the ones I got with my M50.The EF-M 55-200 might be the poorest and least used lens in my EF-M collection. Maybe they chose to improve on it.
Very happy doing so because it works quite well. Shooting with my 100-500 with 1.4 extender at f10 works very well also. I guess that is my point. People are doing so and getting excellent results. People who assume it can't be done don't understand that today's cameras - and today's noise reduction software - make it possible.Everyone who does not like Canon's new dark zoom policy must be stupid. Yeah, got it. Be happy shooting with F8 zooms on APS-C.
I used EF-S-55-250 F4 to 5.6 IS STM, it is the best zoom lens ever made by Canon.