Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]

[bkorcel]

2000.00 for an "entry level". In my opinion this one is quite boring. Come on Canon you can do better for $2K.

 

[RC]

I find that a lot of users do not understand the upgrades over the 5D Mark II:

Autofocus system: beat to death

More important:

Auto ISO over the full range in manual mode,
In-camera HDR and in-camera ME, 9 shots max each
ISO safety shift in Av mode with a min shutter speed and auto ISO over full range

That is why it is $1400 over the 5D Mark II.

And that is why I really want a 5D3. But cost and justification is my issue.

 

[tron]

Autofocus system: beat to death

I agree that would be very useful indeed...

Auto ISO over the full range in manual mode,
ISO safety shift in Av mode with a min shutter speed and auto ISO over full range

All these could be done in firmware. It is Ridiculous that Canon charges so much...

In-camera HDR and in-camera ME, 9 shots max each

This may seem nice but it's a gimmick. Plus I read that it produces jpeg file. Please correct me if I am wrong (I do write this from memory).

 

[7enderbender]

Buying a 5D mkii now is the best deal for a 35mm digital camera. I don't care if/ when it's "technology" is 10+ years old, it is still going to allow me to take fantastic photos!

I for one will be using my 7D & 5Dii till they die. All my other money will just go to glass and in my pocket

I here you. Instead of upgrading my computer, maybe I should buy a second 5DII body as backup/reserve. It works for me and it'll be good enough as long as it works (or gets serviced by Canon). Sure a Mark III would be nice, but then to take really advantage I'd have to upgrade my speedlites as well. Seems too much money for a marginal benefit.

 

[awinphoto]

To all complaining about no new sensor... do you really expect canon to put a BETTER sensor and an IMPROVED sensor in a camera BELOW it's beloved 5d3? Really? I could see them launching a camera maybe above the 5d3 or maybe even above the 1dx to really show off a new sensor... but if you expect a much better sensor below the 5d3... keep dreaming.

 

[Stuart]

With that extra ISO and the pop up flash, this could be my one camera does all upgrade from the 60D.
As long as its got good results up to 3200.
Is this my new hobbyist studio/events body. If so i'll take a 17-40mm lens too please.

 

[Etienne]

I find that a lot of users do not understand the upgrades over the 5D Mark II:

Autofocus system: beat to death

More important:

Auto ISO over the full range in manual mode,
In-camera HDR and in-camera ME, 9 shots max each
ISO safety shift in Av mode with a min shutter speed and auto ISO over full range

That is why it is $1400 over the 5D Mark II.

You forget a couple of my favorites:

*** Silent shutter option -this can be priceless
*** auto-save setting changes when in custom "C1 - C3" modes

 

[briansquibb]

Canon tries to push people switch from 5Dm2 to this entry level OR to 5Dm3, because anyways this one should be better?

Dont see how you jump to that concusion?

 

[sleepnever]

Hmmm this is indeed going to be interesting. I'm looking for my next jump from the Rebel series and I only have the one 24-70L Canon glass that I would have to sell to do so. I'm not trolling. Honestly, whoever can offer me the better camera for my needs at a price point that is doable, will get my money. That being said, I also want to see the so-called 70D or 7Dmk2 before I throw any money down.

If I had to say right now, based on these specs vs the D600...hello D600 for entry FF.

 

[pdirestajr]

But the real question is... will the red focus point light stay on?

My EOS-3 has more useful features than any non 1-series digital camera. Canon has been taking features away from us for years!

 

[briansquibb]

I find that a lot of users do not understand the upgrades over the 5D Mark II:

Autofocus system: beat to death

More important:

Auto ISO over the full range in manual mode,
In-camera HDR and in-camera ME, 9 shots max each
ISO safety shift in Av mode with a min shutter speed and auto ISO over full range

That is why it is $1400 over the 5D Mark II.

You forget a couple of my favorites:

*** Silent shutter option -this can be priceless
*** auto-save setting changes when in custom "C1 - C3" modes

+2 fps which with the new AF makes it OK for sports/action

 

[Astro]

And ... I have spent a lot of money in some glass for the Canon EF mount - switching to Nikon is not a matter of saving (hypothetically) 500$/EUR, its to buy a lot of Nikkors ... oh, impossible, I cannot replace all the glass I need because Nikon has not these options ...

you must have more as is in your signature then....

EF-S 10-22 | 60 || EF 24 | 40 | 100 | 70-200 | 400 || 2 x 40D || 2x TC

i woudl have no problems to switch .... except for the money i had to invest.

 

[bestimage]

what about high mega pixel pro camera with better quality sensor

 

[briansquibb]

I find that a lot of users do not understand the upgrades over the 5D Mark II:

i find that you don´t understand that not all users need a better AF....

Is that all you see in the 5D3?

 

[AdamJ]

Reading through this thread, it's very clear that almost all Rebel and xxD users are very excited about this camera. Canon will be delighted - they are attracting exactly the upgraders they are looking for, leaving upgraders from the 5DII to aspire to the 5DIII.

I won't be exchanging my 5DII but if I didn't have a 5DII, I'd consider the new body's AF alone to be worth more than the 5DII's magnesium body. Wireless flash command and a fractionally better sensor would be icing on the cake.

One possible fly in the ointment is that I doubt the new body will have AFMA, which would be a pity.

 

[mb66energy]

And ... I have spent a lot of money in some glass for the Canon EF mount - switching to Nikon is not a matter of saving (hypothetically) 500$/EUR, its to buy a lot of Nikkors ... oh, impossible, I cannot replace all the glass I need because Nikon has not these options ...

you must have more as is in your signature then....

EF-S 10-22 | 60 || EF 24 | 40 | 100 | 70-200 | 400 || 2 x 40D || 2x TC

i woudl have no problems to switch .... except for the money i had to invest.

It's just that simple:
- Nikon has no 5.6 400mm option (which is lightweight, has great IQ and cost me just 1240 Euro new)
which makes a good 11 800mm with the TC
- Nikon has no 4.0 70-200 option (which is lightweight, has excellent IQ).
- Nikon has no 4 lens element 40mm (or 35mm) lens with excellent IQ and contralight properties.

I am shure that Nikon produces excellent products but the Canon product range gives me the chance to fullfill my requirements in terms of a good combination of image quality + compactness/acceptable weight + affordability (?right word?). Bodies and lens are a tool set which acts like systems always act: It is the combination of the pieces which gives the system its higher order capabilities.

Best - Michael

 

[EOBeav]

Wow! This is a perfect opportunity to reiterate how glad I am that I bought my 5DmkII last December. <$2kUSD, and the vendor even threw in a 16G card and a decent Lowepro bag.

 

[syder]

I find that a lot of users do not understand the upgrades over the 5D Mark II:

Autofocus system: beat to death

More important:

Auto ISO over the full range in manual mode,
In-camera HDR and in-camera ME, 9 shots max each
ISO safety shift in Av mode with a min shutter speed and auto ISO over full range

That is why it is $1400 over the 5D Mark II.

You forget a couple of my favorites:

*** Silent shutter option -this can be priceless
*** auto-save setting changes when in custom "C1 - C3" modes

and

2 extra stops of usable high-iso video
no moire and significantly reduced anti-aliasing
headphone jack
audio gain control and levels without magic lantern

While you may continue to complain that none of these changes make the blindest bit of difference to you - the simple fact is that they do for an awful lot of other people, which is why they're prepared to pay for them.

 

[pakosouthpark]

nikon d600 wins this specs.. and only in fall of 2012?? disappointing really..!
why not a mirrorless FF? it's about time to canon push things over! like apple does!! at the moment they are just following what others do..

 

[AdamJ]

I'd just like to add a "woohoo" that we have something new to create a 30+ page thread from. Woohoo!