Canon's Next Full Frame Camera [CR2]
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For amateurs, dual card slots/full weather sealing is not really a must
they mostly concerns IQ
an entry level FF called 6D,5D lite would be awesome;
single SD slot, built-in flash,lighter plastic body, 19 AF points, slower 4 fps is really excellent
but there is no point to trust a CR2 rumor from canonrumors......it is not much different from CR0
you can check the track records
they mostly concerns IQ
an entry level FF called 6D,5D lite would be awesome;
single SD slot, built-in flash,lighter plastic body, 19 AF points, slower 4 fps is really excellent
but there is no point to trust a CR2 rumor from canonrumors......it is not much different from CR0
you can check the track records
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This is good news... I have been saving up to replace my body in the next 6-9 months... I was waiting to see what APS-C offerings would surface. However, a smaller, more compact FF would certainly be of interest! 
However, weather sealing on body and lenses is becomeing more important for me.
*19 AF points is more than enough for me
*AFMA would also be great
*Weather sealing
If it has those, i am very interested indeed!
However, weather sealing on body and lenses is becomeing more important for me.*19 AF points is more than enough for me
*AFMA would also be great
*Weather sealing
If it has those, i am very interested indeed!
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I dont think normal operating temperatures cause any significant expansion and/or contraction. Not many people out there who use their camera in the antarctic or near volcanos etc. i think. And then probably the material doesnt matter anyway cuz its just so extreme.
Im quite happy about having a "cheap" entry FF dslr coming out. 5D Mark 3 is really expensive.
Hopefully it also got better control than the rebels but im sure about that. I just got a rebel and its such a pain in the ass to switch ISO/WB/Exposure Mode cuz u gotta frickle through menus and got no direct access buttons. Custom Functions doesnt help me fully too.
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DarkKnightNine
The best camera is the one that's with you.
Ricku said:
Shot with the D800 last weekend. Overall not super impressed. Had my 5D Mark III handy for comparison shots. The images coming out of my Canon were good enough with excellent IQ and the color fidelity straight out of camera was simply gorgeous compared to the Nikon's natural green cast! Yes 36MP look good on a spec sheet, but in the studio my 22MP Canon was able to hold it's own and in some ways was even better. Another thing to point out is that the D800 is approaching Medium Format resolution and thus not as forgiving to focus.
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Has anyone seen the specs on the upcoming (claimed August) Sony a99 ?? http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/the-a99-specs-do-you-like-the-camera/
10-12 Fps
1080p @ 60 Fps (first dslr to do so)
Wonder if this will put pressure on Canon, and with the lower price FF coming, get them to add something via Firmware to the 5D3.
10-12 Fps
1080p @ 60 Fps (first dslr to do so)
Wonder if this will put pressure on Canon, and with the lower price FF coming, get them to add something via Firmware to the 5D3.
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LetTheRightLensIn said:Nonsense! All L lenses have solid metal construction! What do you think the L stands for?
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All "L" lenses. Except the 100mm L Macro.
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. Vari-angle LCD would be great too.
I have a 600d and have a couple L lenses (35 1.4 L 70-200 2.8 IS II)I want to upgrade to a full frame camera. A 5D mark III is just way to expensive I rather spend my money on glass. 1500-2000 for a FF camera with good AF, and 5d mark III sensor is perfect for me. I dont mind the 4fps nor the plastic body I just care about the IQ a FF sensor can give.
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I get the feeling reading this that its just MP envy... I don't get it, half the comments are based on this idea that this is an upgrade for the mk2...it isn't, its a replacement for it, not an upgrade ---the upgrade is already on the shelves at stores...
And another thing I don't get - those who have a chip on their shoulder because the mk3 wasn't tailor made to their needs toss the mk3 under the bus and try to promote a fiction that its failing in the marketplace, when it isn't!!!. If you check amazons top selling slr list, the mk3 has been in the top 10 since it became available. For most of the time it has been right next to the d800 in sales...but as i look today the d800 isn't even on the list anymore (guessing nikon is having supply issues cause its no longer even in the top 20). Either way, the mk3 is ranked at 4th right now, and the top 3 are sub $800 camera's. That doesn't sound to me like a camera that's flopping....
I totally get that if your a studio shooter the mk3, or this entry level FF isn't for you, but, for those of us working in a variety of conditions, the mk3 is amazing...and if this entry level FF can hold its own in terms of high ISO IQ, then this may be an affordable backup body. Think of it, if ISO 12,800 on an mk3 looks like ISO 3200 on a mk2, then, if you can achieve similar quality (not even equal, lets say ISO 6400 looks like ISO 3200 on an mk2...then yeah that would be enough to make me say give me this entry level FF as my backup...)
I look at it like this ----I know many local wedding shooters in my area, and about half are canon, half are nikon ---- many are grabbing mk3's or planning on picking one up in the fall. On the nikon side, wedding shooters are going for the d3, d3s, or the d700. And the nikonians I have talked too have said they probably won't be buying a d800 due to the extremely huge file sizes (and if they did, it would sit in the bag most of the time, only to emerge for the formal shots or a few key ceremony shots - not worth it in most of my local communities eyes).
So, while the d800 is impressive, the mk3 is much more well rounded, and therefore fits into the marketplace quite nicely.
Now this new entry level...could be awesome, could be a flop, who knows...and same goes for the rumored d600...its all in the land of who knows...but hey, its fn to make a 30 page thread! LOL, the d800 vs the mk3 thing has been beaten to death, lets smack the corpse around a little more!
And another thing I don't get - those who have a chip on their shoulder because the mk3 wasn't tailor made to their needs toss the mk3 under the bus and try to promote a fiction that its failing in the marketplace, when it isn't!!!. If you check amazons top selling slr list, the mk3 has been in the top 10 since it became available. For most of the time it has been right next to the d800 in sales...but as i look today the d800 isn't even on the list anymore (guessing nikon is having supply issues cause its no longer even in the top 20). Either way, the mk3 is ranked at 4th right now, and the top 3 are sub $800 camera's. That doesn't sound to me like a camera that's flopping....
I totally get that if your a studio shooter the mk3, or this entry level FF isn't for you, but, for those of us working in a variety of conditions, the mk3 is amazing...and if this entry level FF can hold its own in terms of high ISO IQ, then this may be an affordable backup body. Think of it, if ISO 12,800 on an mk3 looks like ISO 3200 on a mk2, then, if you can achieve similar quality (not even equal, lets say ISO 6400 looks like ISO 3200 on an mk2...then yeah that would be enough to make me say give me this entry level FF as my backup...)
I look at it like this ----I know many local wedding shooters in my area, and about half are canon, half are nikon ---- many are grabbing mk3's or planning on picking one up in the fall. On the nikon side, wedding shooters are going for the d3, d3s, or the d700. And the nikonians I have talked too have said they probably won't be buying a d800 due to the extremely huge file sizes (and if they did, it would sit in the bag most of the time, only to emerge for the formal shots or a few key ceremony shots - not worth it in most of my local communities eyes).
So, while the d800 is impressive, the mk3 is much more well rounded, and therefore fits into the marketplace quite nicely.
Now this new entry level...could be awesome, could be a flop, who knows...and same goes for the rumored d600...its all in the land of who knows...but hey, its fn to make a 30 page thread! LOL, the d800 vs the mk3 thing has been beaten to death, lets smack the corpse around a little more!
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Chuck Alaimo said:
I have a 5DII and I will upgrade to 5DIII, but high ISO performance is NOT that much better unless you shoot only JPG. Who does that on a 5D series camera?
Comparing ISO performance using out-of-the-camera jpeg shots is nonsense.
The only place you get 2 stops of improvement is in video. That is cool on it's own. For photos it is about 1/2 a stop improvement.
Other than that, I agree the 5DIII is an awesome camera with a ton of upgrades over the 5DII.
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Vikmnilu said:
Well shoot in early 2004 i bought my first DSLR, the 10D as well... battery grip, extra battery, etc... Paid nearly $1600 at my local store... probably, in hindsight, i could have gotten it cheaper online but I guess I was young and stupid at that time, haha... and not too longer after I bought that camera, the friggen 20D came out... Oh well live and learn
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