EF 24-70 f/4L IS & EF 35 f/2 IS

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#41
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Why the filter size of 77mm still? Why didn't they make it 67mm just like the 70-200mm f4L and IS? I guess the 17-40mm f/4L is also 77mm, but I see most first-time FF users pairing this lens up first with the tele zoom and then adding the UWA later.

Same is true for the rumored 35mm. Why 67mm (up from 52mm of the previous model)? I would think that 58mm just like the 24 and 28mm IS lenses would make a lot more sense. 58mm is easily big enough to squeeze in the objective element for 35mm f/2. The objective elements in the 24mm and 28mm are a larger diameter than they mathematically need to be, and maybe that factors into their excellent performance. Maybe the 35mm f/2 is even larger and will have similar or superior IQ because of it.
 
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#43
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EchoLocation said:
I don't understand primes that aren't in the 1.4 or at least 1.8 range. Why would i want a $700 prime that is only f2? Can someone explain this to me?
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Well, 1.8 is only 1/3 stop faster than 2.0. To get 1/3 of a stop out of shutter speed or ISO isn't that big a deal, so the difference doesn't matter a whole lot, IMO. 1.4 is 2/3 stop faster. Again, with the ISO performance of the modern cameras, this isn't as big a deal as it once was.

Creatively, the DOF of the faster lenses can't be replicated. But at that point you're in the realm of very carefully focused artistic shots - the realm of a more specialized lens. I have never had any luck walking around shooting at 1.4-1.8. DOF is too difficult to manage. If stuff is moving, or the scene is busy than your keeper rate goes way down. I'd much rather have the higher resolution of the new lenses and them be just fast enough to help in dim situations.

On another note: I'm guessing $1600 for the new 24-70F4 L IS.

-Brian
 
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#46
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insanitybeard said:
Ellen Schmidtee said:
At last - the 35mm f/2 I was waiting for, specifically with USM & improved aperture. If the price is right, I'm buying one.
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Alas, if the new 24 and 28 2.8 IS lenses are anything to go by, price will be substancially more than the old 35 f2...... ::)
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With improved diaphragm and added IS & USM, it would be surprising if Canon didn't raise it's price significantly. I wouldn't make a big fuss if the price was raise 60% to U.S.$500

Also, consider it's position relative to the 35mm f/1.4 L USM - having the same diaphragm (8 rounded blades) & USM, the two lenses are not as differentiated as before - cash & IS would win many over one f stop.

On the other hand, Canon might replace the 35mm f/1.4 L with a 35mm f/1.2 L, and make even more people happy.
 
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#47
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On another note: I'm guessing $1600 for the new 24-70F4 L IS.

-Brian
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I think $1600 is unrealistic. Especially as it's meant to be a kit lens for the 6D. I reckon initial price will be closer to th 24-105L and then it will fall in price to help the 24-105 fade away.
 
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#48
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Since I already have the 24-105, I'll wait and see how this new lens compares to it. If its noticeably sharper, has better IS, not crazily expensive and doesn't suffer from lens creep (my 24-105 does), then I may switch to it. I also have the 70-200 f4 IS, so I don't mind switching lens as needed.

I'm going to stick to my original plan when it comes to lens, which is to buy the cheaper F4 zooms and supplement with fast primes (1.4 and faster).
 
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#49
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stewy said:
Since I already have the 24-105, I'll wait and see how this new lens compares to it. If its noticeably sharper, has better IS, not crazily expensive and doesn't suffer from lens creep (my 24-105 does), then I may switch to it. I also have the 70-200 f4 IS, so I don't mind switching lens as needed.

I'm going to stick to my original plan when it comes to lens, which is to buy the cheaper F4 zooms and supplement with fast primes (1.4 and faster).
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Smart man. F2.8 is not fast enough IMHO to stop most action in low light.
 
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#52
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Dylan777 said:
Two more lenses that I don't need...where is the new 50mm and/or 14-24 Mr. Canon >:(
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I had my fingers crossed for the 14-24
With the two mid range zoom lenses starting at 24mm, you would think the lens would fit like a glove in the lineup.
I would be right as rain with a 14-24 f/4, 24-70 f/4 IS, and a 70-200 f4/IS
Toss in a fast prime or two and you've got yourself a party.
 
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#54
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sanj said:
RLPhoto said:
I have to admit, I'm glad to see the old 35mm f/2 to go away. It was a terrible lens.

If the 24-70L f/4 isn't cheaper than the 24-105L, I don't see it catching on.
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Agree...
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We won't have a choice by the time they discontinue the 24-105 and replace it with a much more expensive version of the lens... either take the new lens or stomach the 24-70 f/4L.
 
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#55
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Am I the only one who is actually excited about this lens? The macro bit is what sold me. Provided this new lens has nice IQ and reasonable price (which by all means it should), It can effectively provide a small and light replacement for my 100L macro and 15-85. Paired with a 10-22 or 17-40, it seems like an excellent and versatile lens for travel photography and macro work.
 
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#56
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Concerning why a "slow" prime.... Prime lenses are about image quality. Usually they are fast, but not always so.

And why 24-70 and not 24-105.... the greater the zoom range the harder it is to keep image quality. Most prime zooms are around a 3x zoom range, a ratio where the compromises made do not overly distort the image. For an extreme example, look at the superzooms with ranges of ten times or more..... the IQ sucks compared to shorter range zooms. I'll bet that the image quality of the 24-70 is much better than the 24-105.
 
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#58
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plutonium10 said:
Am I the only one who is actually excited about this lens? The macro bit is what sold me. Provided this new lens has nice IQ and reasonable price (which by all means it should), It can effectively provide a small and light replacement for my 100L macro and 15-85. Paired with a 10-22 or 17-40, it seems like an excellent and versatile lens for travel photography and macro work.
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The macro possibilities are interesting
 
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#59
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I think it will be a let's wait and see situation for the new zoom. The 24-105 isn't at its best at the very wide end where I want to use it the most. It also has a lot of distortion at that end. If the new zoom improves the wide end significantly over the 24-105 in a smaller package I will get it probably. It would be a nice lightweight travel lens to pair with one of the 70-something lenses. I hope the MTF charts come out soon.
 
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