EOS-1D X Mark II Dynamic Range [CR2]

It occurs to me that I may be on the cusp of a whole new arena of photography...but if so, I'll need some help. Perhaps Aglet will teach me the proper way to shoot with the lens cap on, Dean can educate me on the importance of DR for taking pictures of Diet Coke boxes (and how to be a real pro and make lots of A$ doing so), and maybe if I get really lucky, Mikael will loan me his QPcard and show me how to take pictures of barbecues and push them 5 stops.

;D
 
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ISO and DR are commonly talked about here as if they are discrete measurements, but they're both effects of signal to noise ratio. DR critically tracks how little signal can be imaged before noise becomes a problem, and as the problem of noise is abated, useable DR increases. As ISO basically correlates to the amplification of insufficient signal, DR is largely what's observed when ISO performance is measured.

Unless I'm ignorant of an important distinction between the two, it doesn't make sense to say that DR improves despite ISO performance.
 
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drjlo said:
What are the chances 5D IV will get the new DR tech?

I would say quite high, but I can't see a 5DIV around the corner. Canon will want their run with only their flagship having any significant jump forward. The new 5Ds hasn't even been launched yet; it is to all intents and purposes a 5DIII with a higher resolution sensor using more or less the same tech. ( At least up to the 7DII).

So when the 5DIV does eventually come out it's going to make the 5Ds look out of date - unless it's really quite different and more video based. I still maintain that we could see an interchangeable finder: one pentaprism, the other an EVF, principally for video.
 
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I'm 49/51 betting more it doesn't. I dont think the 1DX2 gets announced before the 5D4 and they aren't going to let the 5D4 debut serious performance updates just ahead of a 1 body. Would love to be wrong.

Sporgon said:
drjlo said:
What are the chances 5D IV will get the new DR tech?

I would say quite high, but I can't see a 5DIV around the corner. Canon will want their run with only their flagship having any significant jump forward. The new 5Ds hasn't even been launched yet; it is to all intents and purposes a 5DIII with a higher resolution sensor using more or less the same tech. ( At least up to the 7DII).

So when the 5DIV does eventually come out it's going to make the 5Ds look out of date - unless it's really quite different and more video based. I still maintain that we could see an interchangeable finder: one pentaprism, the other an EVF, principally for video.
 
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Eh... What a middle finger that would be though. 6D2 with CPADC design but not on 5D4? No way. Either they will both have it, or neither will.

nightscape123 said:
Hopefully the 6DII sees this tech since it isn't due out for another year. Seems unlikely the 5DIV will have it since they'll want their flagship model to stand out for a few months.
 
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I am so glad that there is such strong competition between Canon, Nikon, Sony, etc... This is what makes things just keep getting better! I hope this Camera will be as good as many anticipate. Can't wait to see the photos you folks post when it does hit the market and gets into your hands!
 
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PureClassA said:
Eh... What a middle finger that would be though. 6D2 with CPADC design but not on 5D4? No way. Either they will both have it, or neither will.

nightscape123 said:
Hopefully the 6DII sees this tech since it isn't due out for another year. Seems unlikely the 5DIV will have it since they'll want their flagship model to stand out for a few months.

I dunno, the current 6D sensor was a pretty big upgrade from the 5DIII sensor, people seem ok with that. The increased QE, fix for the banding noise and improved ISO capabilities. I guess it wasn't as big of an upgrade as this would be, but there is some precedence for it.
 
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sanj said:
This is depressing news. CR will be dull now.

No it will still be lots of fun. There will be complaints about other Canon cameras being "crippled". Someone has to say "crippled" at least once each day. Like, "Waaaaa, why did Canon cripple the sensor in my Rebel? Why can't it have the same sensor as the 1DX2? Why is Canon being so cheap? They just want to make money! That's it; I'm done with Canon!" ;)

sparda79 said:
We can finally photograph that elusive inside of a lens-cap shots that Sony & Nikon users have been raving about.

Just try to think of the new creative possibilities! :)
 
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I own both. Yes the 6D yielded better results at high ISO with less banding... but it wasn't a huge step up. We're talking about a completely NEW sensor design that is a big leap from the current in the way it's manufactured and performs. Not sure it's the same thing.

nightscape123 said:
PureClassA said:
Eh... What a middle finger that would be though. 6D2 with CPADC design but not on 5D4? No way. Either they will both have it, or neither will.

nightscape123 said:
Hopefully the 6DII sees this tech since it isn't due out for another year. Seems unlikely the 5DIV will have it since they'll want their flagship model to stand out for a few months.

I dunno, the current 6D sensor was a pretty big upgrade from the 5DIII sensor, people seem ok with that. The increased QE, fix for the banding noise and improved ISO capabilities. I guess it wasn't as big of an upgrade as this would be, but there is some precedence for it.
 
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If this is true, I would think it will first appear in the 1DX. While we are waiting for the 1DX to become available, we will get the announcement of the 5D4 with the same increase in DR and a few months later the camera will arrive sometime in spring 2016. The 1DX2 will be available for the summer to the pros who are hand picked to get the first batch and the rest of us will have one by the fall of 2016. Then the 6D2 will come around in time for Christmas 2016.
 
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cbphoto said:
I, for one, love the competition between Sony & Canon. While there'll always be bumps in the road, we reap the rewards of both company's R&D.

I'm still itching to try the Sony a7r with a lens adapter.
Pick one up, you can get a good deal on eBay. I did. I shoot architecture and landscape and the files are wonderful. So much more recovery info. Of course I bracket but with ppl in the scene it's better to blend exposures from the same frame.
No matter what canon does eventually I'll definitely have a Sony as either a main or backup high res camera.
 
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