EOS-1D X Mark II Dynamic Range [CR2]

tpatana said:
I want to be able to push shadows so many stops that I can shoot with lens cap on and still recover the picture in LR.
Some traditional Canon users would consider shooting at base ISO in low light with the lens cap still on as bad technique - I consider it one if the many basic situations the sensor should be able to overcome ;)
 
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Bennymiata said:
I think what Canon should do is bring out a lens cap with a clear glass front.

Then Canons would be the best camera to take pictures with the lens cap on.

Take THAT Sony fanboys. ;D

These lenscaps still exist but Canon doesn't produce them in large amounts.
Use them from 3rd party companies like B+W etc. They are called "filters"
and have you have to fiddle around with a screw in mount - but you don't
remove them for taking pictures.
These black lens caps sit in a little box in a drawer since I opened the
box with a newly acquired lens and will see light again
if I sell a corresponding lens.
Hopefully this helps.
 
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Don Haines said:
dilbert said:
Are they going to clean up shadows while they're at it or leave the sensor being the noisiest?

Only time will tell.... but they knew that they were weak in DR and have obviously taken steps to address the problem. They are also weak in noise... The 7D2 shows some improvements, but it is a fair bet that since they also know they are weak in noise that they will take measures to improve it.... only time will tell.

A safe bet is that the quantum efficiency of the sensor will take a jump up... should be good for a third of a stop just on that variable alone.... and who knows what they are doing with readout noise?

Despite having no intentions to buy this camera, I will be looking at it to see what tech comes with it, as it should eventually trickle down the line. Should be interesting times ahead....


Read noise...DR....basically they boil down to the same thing. DR is the ratio between FWC and RN after all. Canon has improved their read noise characteristic in recent models, which is certainly a welcome improvement. Somehow, though, the improvement in characteristic hasn't actually improved DR...honestly not sure what's going on there.


A Q.E. boost should help high ISO performance, but a solid reduction in read noise (not just more improvement in characteristic) would really be needed to improve dynamic range.


I hope this is finally it, or at least, finally the beginning of the end of Canon's very long in the tooth "Age of 11 Stops." :P It's kind of a bummer (although certainly not surprising as it's the epitome of Canon's M.O.) it's coming in a camera likely to cost somewhere in the vicinity of $7000...that won't stop many people from complaining about Canon DR since most people won't be able to even hold a 1D X II in their hands, let alone actually buy one. I wonder if the 5D IV will get a DR boost....otherwise, we'll have to wait for the 5D V before the majority of Canon users who want more DR actually get more DR.
 
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As a long time occasional lurker I just dropped in to say what a bunch of insufferable arsetwats the majority of you are.

I've never seen such an argumentative, self absorbed, smug, infantile and downright pathetic group as that which regularly posts here. Nothing is more important than being right, starting a fight, arguing over nothing or scoring points.

Never mind the signal to noise ratio of the new vaporware 1DXII, how about y'all try to improve it here on this site.

It's not been a pleasure folks, you can stick it up yer fundamental.

Love & kisses,

bollo
 
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Bollo,

Yup, if some people put as much effort into their photography skills as they do arguing about the DR of something that isn't yet available, then this small part of the world might be a better place.

Anyway, let the mud-slinging continue...

Guy.
 
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GuyF said:
Bollo,

Yup, if some people put as much effort into their photography skills as they do arguing about the DR of something that isn't yet available, then this small part of the world might be a better place.

Anyway, let the mud-slinging continue...

Guy.

Wow. You mean exactly how you are commenting here?
 
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bollo said:
As a long time occasional lurker I just dropped in to say what a bunch of insufferable arsetwats the majority of you are.

I've never seen such an argumentative, self absorbed, smug, infantile and downright pathetic group as that which regularly posts here. Nothing is more important than being right, starting a fight, arguing over nothing or scoring points.

Never mind the signal to noise ratio of the new vaporware 1DXII, how about y'all try to improve it here on this site.

It's not been a pleasure folks, you can stick it up yer fundamental.

Love & kisses,

bollo

"Long time (yet) occasional" lurker. That made me laugh. I guess you did not see this or similar thread to know how we all really are: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=25988.0

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=26160.0

Its a pleasure to see you leave.
 
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Sanj,

I don't want to get into an argument with you, but my post simply pointed out there are some people who seem to get very worked up over the possibilities of something that doesn't yet exist. Wouldn't it be better to wait until we see what technology Canon unveils?

Guy.
 
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GuyF said:
Sanj,

I don't want to get into an argument with you, but my post simply pointed out there are some people who seem to get very worked up over the possibilities of something that doesn't yet exist. Wouldn't it be better to wait until we see what technology Canon unveils?

Guy.

Guy,
Yes you are right, but it is a rumor site. We like to discuss possibilities. One thing leads to another and along the way we learn photography techniques .:) When I joined this site I was getting into photography after a long time - direct after film days - and must say I learnt a lot. On this Juza photo, and Brian's website. And Ken Rockwell. :) :)
But yeah getting worked up is never good. Like Bollo. He certainly has issues. Like "occasionally lurking for a long time" at a site where he thinks contributors are pathetic. Lol.
There are some posts which are offensive but I guess sometimes we misread humor and get offended. Besides this is the internet. It needs to be different than a social club. Here faceless people can and should say their minds. That is the fun bit. If you are a Mac user try their rumor site. It's juicy.
Peace!
 
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Sanj,

A Mac user? Now that's just name calling! ;D

Yeah, it's one thing to speculate on "what ifs.." but there are a few people here who take things really too personally and get very very angry if their point of view is challenged.

Before this ends up with comments neither of us would be proud of, let's call it quits and we'll both come out of this in one piece!

Peace, love and good hapiness stuff.

Guy.
 
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bollo said:
As a long time occasional lurker I just dropped in to say what a bunch of insufferable arsetwats the majority of you are.

I've never seen such an argumentative, self absorbed, smug, infantile and downright pathetic group as that which regularly posts here. Nothing is more important than being right, starting a fight, arguing over nothing or scoring points.

Never mind the signal to noise ratio of the new vaporware 1DXII, how about y'all try to improve it here on this site.

It's not been a pleasure folks, you can stick it up yer fundamental.

Love & kisses,

bollo

I'm always wondering if these are reappearances of ancient personalities. I've even forgotten who most of them are, but apparently they don't like Canon.

Another one for the road:
Nikon Lens Selection Sucks, Nikon Menues Suck, Nikon Live View Sucks, Nikon Control Dials Suck, Nikon Editing Software Sucks, Nikon Chromatic Aberration Sucks, Nikon Video Mode Sucks, Nikon Lens Naming Sucks...
Sony has flimsy lens mounts and is indecisive, Samsung uses 12bit RAW in burst mode, The 654Z cost more than a 1Dx, Oh and Nikon doesn't have an RT flash, and Nikon's wireless functionality Sucks. Fuji only makes crop sensors and Micro 4/3 is even worse! But as bad as they are, it's still not as bad as the Nikon 1 series.
Nikon, Really, Sucks.
 
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9VIII said:
bollo said:
As a long time occasional lurker I just dropped in to say what a bunch of insufferable arsetwats the majority of you are.

I've never seen such an argumentative, self absorbed, smug, infantile and downright pathetic group as that which regularly posts here. Nothing is more important than being right, starting a fight, arguing over nothing or scoring points.

Never mind the signal to noise ratio of the new vaporware 1DXII, how about y'all try to improve it here on this site.

It's not been a pleasure folks, you can stick it up yer fundamental.

Love & kisses,

bollo

I'm always wondering if these are reappearances of ancient personalities. I've even forgotten who most of them are, but apparently they don't like Canon.

Another one for the road:
Nikon Lens Selection Sucks, Nikon Menues Suck, Nikon Live View Sucks, Nikon Control Dials Suck, Nikon Editing Software Sucks, Nikon Chromatic Aberration Sucks, Nikon Video Mode Sucks, Nikon Lens Naming Sucks...
Sony has flimsy lens mounts and is indecisive, Samsung uses 12bit RAW in burst mode, The 654Z cost more than a 1Dx, Oh and Nikon doesn't have an RT flash, and Nikon's wireless functionality Sucks. Fuji only makes crop sensors and Micro 4/3 is even worse! But as bad as they are, it's still not as bad as the Nikon 1 series.
Nikon, Really, Sucks.

The number of things wrong with Nikon is so big right now that you could almost write a song about it.
I was about to go over to Nikonrumors and ask if they could come up with a similar list for Canon, but on their frontpage all I saw was more things about how much Nikon sucks, so maybe that's not a good idea as they probably aren't feeling very lively at the moment.
 
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