EOS 70D Next to Be Announced

[insanitybeard]

My 7D continues to be available for service, and continues to take decent pictures. It will keep fulfilling that role until something comes along to justify the upgrade. Until that time, no sweat from me.

 

[Sabaki]

My 7D continues to be available for service, and continues to take decent pictures. It will keep fulfilling that role until something comes along to justify the upgrade. Until that time, no sweat from me.

Speaking of the 7D InsanityBeard, can you tell us if the version 2 software improved things like noise at higher ISOs, colour rendition or dynamic range at all?

Thank you

 

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<p><strong>Canon EOS 70D


</strong><a href=\"http://www.canonrumors.com/2013/05/canon-eos-70d-coming-in-july-cr2/\" target=\"_blank\">As expected the next DSLR from Canon will be the EOS 70D</a>. No specs of the camera have leaked out yet, but the last we heard it would utilize the 18mp sensor currently in the Rebel SL1.</p>
<p>The camera will come kitted with either the EF-S 18-55 IS STM or the EF-S 18-135 IS STM. The battery grip will be called the BG-E14</p>
<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">c</span>r</strong></p>

Any idea when this and the potential new compacts announcements would be?

 

[insanitybeard]

My 7D continues to be available for service, and continues to take decent pictures. It will keep fulfilling that role until something comes along to justify the upgrade. Until that time, no sweat from me.

Speaking of the 7D InsanityBeard, can you tell us if the version 2 software improved things like noise at higher ISOs, colour rendition or dynamic range at all?

Thank you

I cannot answer this I'm afraid, having read some people's stories of the camera locking up or some AF issues (I think) after installing the version 2 firmware, I have not done it myself! The camera continues to operate with the firmware it came out of the box with. Perhaps somebody else can answer your question.....

 

[chops411]

My 7D continues to be available for service, and continues to take decent pictures. It will keep fulfilling that role until something comes along to justify the upgrade. Until that time, no sweat from me.

same here

 

[Chosenbydestiny]

Well... This rumor does imply "utilize" so I'm hoping for the chance it's nowhere near the same as an SL1 sensor... But hopefully that also means they're focusing harder on upgrading the AF, something we've been waiting for too long.

 

[hamada]

im glad i switched from APS-C to FF.

maybe i will buy the 7D MK2 to acompany my 6D.

 

[whothafunk]

Speaking of the 7D InsanityBeard, can you tell us if the version 2 software improved things like noise at higher ISOs, colour rendition or dynamic range at all?

not 1 person or review could confirm that software update did improve anything regarding IQ/ISO. it's the same.

 

[martinmm]

I was looking forward to something that would keep me from buying a Nikon D7100.

This is not it.

.

 

[Loswr]

Not really revolutionary then. Wondering how long it takes for real new sensors.

Canon can always open the door and make a visit to Sony, Toshiba, Aptina, Panasonic and start a collaboration, but they are to proud and have invest much prestige in their own sensors

Pride? I doubt that...just good fiscal sense. They're selling plenty of dSLRs using their own sensor technology, and all the DxOMark Scores in the world haven't changed that. So, why dilute their profits by giving some of them to another sensor manufacturer? Clearly, in the case of the many PowerShots that use Sony sensors, they're not 'too proud' - for that market segment, the economies of scale make it logical to source those sensors from another manufacturer.

 

[Don Haines]

Not really revolutionary then. Wondering how long it takes for real new sensors.

Canon can always open the door and make a visit to Sony, Toshiba, Aptina, Panasonic and start a collaboration, but they are to proud and have invest much prestige in their own sensors

Pride? I doubt that...just good fiscal sense. They're selling plenty of dSLRs using their own sensor technology, and all the DxOMark Scores in the world haven't changed that. So, why dilute their profits by giving some of them to another sensor manufacturer? Clearly, in the case of the many PowerShots that use Sony sensors, they're not 'too proud' - for that market segment, the economies of scale make it logical to source those sensors from another manufacturer.

Also, keep in mind that few of us, if any, have a clue (I certainly don't) as to what is under developement in the labs and what the corperate strategic decisions are..... we are just speculating... there could be something fantastic coming down the pipe, there could be nothing... but until it gets released, we just don't know.

 

[mjbehnke]

I'm at a loss? So, the 20.2 MP sensor with dual pixel CMOS AF is not a new sensor? I would think that having 2.2mp over the current 18mp sensor, they would have had to make a new one? I'm not at all a techie person, so that's the reason I ask.

Thanks,
Matthew

 

[Nishi Drew]

I was looking forward to something that would keep me from buying a Nikon D7100.

This is not it.

.

HAHA, if you're looking for something else to go against the decision of purchasing the D7100 then obviously you don't really want the D7100 to begin with, you're looking forward to a "better" camera but with the intention of settling with one you don't quite want? The D7100 looks like a pretty fine camera, it even has decent video (matters to me) while over here the flip screen is a big plus, just need to see if Canon was woken up with Magic Lantern's recent RAW video discovery and the 70D actually has something neat from the start. Or not... depends on how the sensor is now

 

[Don Haines]

I'm at a loss? So, the 20.2 MP sensor with dual pixel CMOS AF is not a new sensor? I would think that having 2.2mp over the current 18mp sensor, they would have had to make a new one? I'm not at all a techie person, so that's the reason I ask.

Thanks,
Matthew

There is no ISO improvement over the T5i, so I expect it is the same technology as the T5i and SL1, just slightly smaller pixels... So yes, it is a new sensor, but no (probably), it is not new technology.

 

[m.malvitz]

What type of toggle with this have? Do you think it will go back to the joystick of the 50D and 5D MkIII? Or will it be the pad in the 60D and 6D?

 

[whothafunk]

havent you seen the 70D on pictures? no joystick, just d-pad.

 

[x-vision]

its a new sensor but probably build with the same design as all other APS , 24x36mm sensors from Canon since 2004

We can't be sure.

At the CMOS/electronics level, the 70D sensor is a 40mp sensor, basically.
That seems way too many for Canon's old 500nm process - when even 18mp was pushing it.

I guess we'll find out when Chipworks puts the 70D sensor under the microscope.

 

[Policar]

its a new sensor but probably build with the same design as all other APS , 24x36mm sensors from Canon since 2004

We can't be sure.

At the CMOS/electronics level, the 70D sensor is a 40mp sensor, basically.
That seems way too many for Canon's old 500nm process - when even 18mp was pushing it.

I guess we'll find out when Chipworks puts the 70D sensor under the microscope.

Might the pixels being split for AF hurt ISO performance by a stop?

The Mark III (and I'm assuming 1DX even more so) has good high ISO performance. It's low ISO that suffers. If anything Canon would want to fix that but I don't think they'd want to publicize it since the problem is not really well-documented except in niche communities. (Noisy ADC or somesuch.)

 

[Loswr]

The Mark III (and I'm assuming 1DX even more so) has good high ISO performance. It's low ISO that suffers. If anything Canon would want to fix that but I don't think they'd want to publicize it since the problem is not really well-documented except in niche communities. (Noisy ADC or somesuch.)

So why would they want to fix it at all? :

 

[Policar]

The Mark III (and I'm assuming 1DX even more so) has good high ISO performance. It's low ISO that suffers. If anything Canon would want to fix that but I don't think they'd want to publicize it since the problem is not really well-documented except in niche communities. (Noisy ADC or somesuch.)

So why would they want to fix it at all? :

Maybe they don't. There's not much evidence they care. The gap between Canon and Sony sensors is wider in terms of read noise than quantum efficiency, so there's more room to improve there, but I agree with you there's much less incentive.

There might be more incentive when/if the mythical 3D studio/landscape camera launches, however, in which case Canon might be moved to improve their cameras' read noise without really publicizing that they ever had an issue with it. Probably not, though.