EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

[Lee Jay]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

The rumor says:

"new telephoto lens"

which could easily mean a telephoto lens design that currently doesn't exist as well as an update of one that does.

Why not announce a new APS-C telephoto lens with a new APS-C camera?

because there is no point in an aps-c telephoto

If there is no point in an APS-C telephoto then why does the EF-S 55-250 exist?

It reduces cost, not size or weight. The cost is reduced by not having to fully correct out to as large a radius on the image circle, and by not having to make it as wide-angle on the wide end.

 

[Lee Jay]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

I'm thinking a slightly different recipe for the telephoto...200-400 f/5.6 sans the built in converter obviously.

Was chatting to a few of the guys I know who predominantly shoot wildlife and very few use focal lengths shorter than 200mm.

When shooting airshows, it's very common for me to wish for shorter than the 140mm I get from my 70-200+2x.

 

[mrsfotografie]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

I think everyone is hoping for an EF 100-400 replacement.

+1 ;D

 

[JonAustin]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

I'm thinking a slightly different recipe for the telephoto...200-400 f/5.6 sans the built in converter obviously.

Make that a 200-400 f/4.0-5.6L IS, and I'd like one of those even more than a 100-400 II!

 

[Don Haines]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

I'm thinking a slightly different recipe for the telephoto...200-400 f/5.6 sans the built in converter obviously.

Was chatting to a few of the guys I know who predominantly shoot wildlife and very few use focal lengths shorter than 200mm.

And yes, if the performance at 400mm is better than that of my beloved 400mm f/5.6, I may just upgrade

Dunno why I'm sitting here trying to image how Brian will review a lens I just conjured up in my mind?!

We have 24-70..... a couple versions... all great lenses

We have 70-200... a couple versions... all great lenses

We have a 200-400.... only one version, very expensive

It seems natural (to me) to have a 200-400F5.6 as a "lower priced" 200-400 option. the narrower zoom range makes it easier to keep great image quality.... after all, the more the range, the more compromises you have to make, and the worse the lens performs...

 

[Lee Jay]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

If it's more than 150 on the wide end, then I definitely won't be interested. If I want a narrow range of focal lengths, I'll get a 400/5.6. I want a zoom because I need a zoom.

Sony makes a 70-400.

 

[seamonster]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

A 200-400 5.6 won't cut it.

Want a 200-500 5.6 for some 700mm action with a 1.4 TC that will look better than the Tamron 150-600's 600mm @ the same f/8.

 

[mrsfotografie]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

If it's more than 150 on the wide end, then I definitely won't be interested. If I want a narrow range of focal lengths, I'll get a 400/5.6. I want a zoom because I need a zoom.

Sony makes a 70-400.

The 7D and 100-400 are a natural match so it would make sense to announce these tigether.

Like you mentioned, an xx-400 would be even more versatile

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

If it's more than 150 on the wide end, then I definitely won't be interested. If I want a narrow range of focal lengths, I'll get a 400/5.6. I want a zoom because I need a zoom.

Sony makes a 70-400.

Yep, the 100-400 is an odd range, slotting in with a 24-105 as it's only option. Which is a really old lens and really needs an update. The 24-70 lenses have 70-200 and 70-300 partners.

 

[Lee Jay]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

A 200-400 5.6 won't cut it.

Want a 200-500 5.6 for some 700mm action with a 1.4 TC that will look better than the Tamron 150-600's 600mm @ the same f/8.

The problem is, a 500/5.6 has an aperture of 89.3mm - much larger than the 71.4mm of the 100-400L. Canon would charge a lot for that aperture - probably well over $4,000. Since the 100-400L currently sells for $1,500, a $4,000 lens wouldn't exactly be a replacement. When the 70-200/2.8L IS I was selling for $1,700, the replacement went for $2,500. I expect a similar jump in price (~50%), not a much larger ~150%-200% jump. Therefore, a 200-500/5.6 or thereabouts would not be a replacement for a 100-400L in the lineup, but rather a new option.

 

[mrsfotografie]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

If it's more than 150 on the wide end, then I definitely won't be interested. If I want a narrow range of focal lengths, I'll get a 400/5.6. I want a zoom because I need a zoom.

Sony makes a 70-400.

Yep, the 100-400 is an odd range, slotting in with a 24-105 as it's only option. Which is a really old lens and really needs an update. The 24-70 lenses have 70-200 and 70-300 partners.

From a marketing and consumer point of view, it's great to have zooms that leave no gaps in focal length. In practice though this is much less of an issue than one would think. Being able to go down to a 'near normal' focal length like 70 mm on full frame can be very practical in a tele-zoom however. This is an important reason why my 70-200 and 70-300 more often find their way to my lens mount than the 100-400. I really only use the 100-400 when I need the reach, and the flexibility is a bonus. I have actually thought about getting a 400 mm f/4 prime (big white that unfortunately does not exist) or 300 f/2.8 (couple to a 1.4 TC) but cannot justify the cost nor the loss of the zoom flexibility. My interest in the 100-400 is growing rather old however...

 

[rs]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

I have actually thought about getting a 400 mm f/4 prime (big white that unfortunately does not exist)

http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/EF_Lenses/Telephoto/EF_400mm_f4_DO_IS_USM/

 

[GMCPhotographics]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

I have actually thought about getting a 400 mm f/4 prime (big white that unfortunately does not exist)

http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Cameras/EF_Lenses/Telephoto/EF_400mm_f4_DO_IS_USM/

Another option is a 200mm f2.0 LIS with a 2x converter or a better option is a 300mm f2.8 LIS mkII and a 1.4x TC....makes a great combo.

 

[Pieces Of E]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

What happened to Digital Photo Professional 4.0 for all camera models? :

 

[Sabaki]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

If it's more than 150 on the wide end, then I definitely won't be interested. If I want a narrow range of focal lengths, I'll get a 400/5.6. I want a zoom because I need a zoom.

Sony makes a 70-400.

Canon's recent L zooms are cited as having prime like image quality. I could live with a 200-400 like that.

 

[Lee Jay]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

If it's more than 150 on the wide end, then I definitely won't be interested. If I want a narrow range of focal lengths, I'll get a 400/5.6. I want a zoom because I need a zoom.

Sony makes a 70-400.

Canon's recent L zooms are cited as having prime like image quality. I could live with a 200-400 like that.

The new 70-200 is like that, it has a bigger than 2x zoom range, and because it's both wider and faster, its harder to build than a zoom ending in 400/5.6 with the same zoom range.

It shouldn't be hard at all for Canon to build a 100-400 replacement with at least the optical quality of the 70-200 ii.

 

[wtlloyd]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

Yep, it's a rumor site, step right on through the mirror...

But then what's the point in talking about any rumor here?

let's just strip it down to "a camera and a lens will be released, probably in September". That's pretty generic and hard to refute until September.

But if you say "APS-C and telephoto" I should think a full frame camera and a wide angle zoom are in the works, possibly?

Seems to me you're trying to butter both sides of the bread.

RUMOR

Deal with it.

Exactly. A rumor is, by definition, uncertain. Ascribing a detailed level of specificity to the terminology used in a rumor seems rather foolish.

 

[Loswr]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

Yep, it's a rumor site, step right on through the mirror...

But then what's the point in talking about any rumor here?

let's just strip it down to "a camera and a lens will be released, probably in September". That's pretty generic and hard to refute until September.

But if you say "APS-C and telephoto" I should think a full frame camera and a wide angle zoom are in the works, possibly?

Seems to me you're trying to butter both sides of the bread.

There were rumors a while back suggesting a new wide angle lens would be released...and now we have the 16-35mm f/4L IS. According to your viewpoint, the rumors were flat out wrong because the 16-35/4L is not a wide angle lens, it's a ultra-wide zoom lens.

The point is, construing a rumor stating 'telephoto lens' as excluding the possibility of a telephoto zoom lens is not logical.

 

[wtlloyd]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

Not according to my viewpoint, and don't put words in my mouth.

And pay attention!

I pointed out that Canon have a specific, limited identification of what is meant by "telephoto" in their lineup. I pointed this out as an interesting consideration - not because I am a pedant trying to one up other members.

 

[Don Haines]

Re: EOS 7D Replacement & Telephoto Lens in September [CR3]

Yep, it's a rumor site, step right on through the mirror...

But then what's the point in talking about any rumor here?

let's just strip it down to "a camera and a lens will be released, probably in September". That's pretty generic and hard to refute until September.

But if you say "APS-C and telephoto" I should think a full frame camera and a wide angle zoom are in the works, possibly?

Seems to me you're trying to butter both sides of the bread.

There were rumors a while back suggesting a new wide angle lens would be released...and now we have the 16-35mm f/4L IS. According to your viewpoint, the rumors were flat out wrong because the 16-35/4L is not a wide angle lens, it's a ultra-wide zoom lens.

The point is, construing a rumor stating 'telephoto lens' as excluding the possibility of a telephoto zoom lens is not logical.

agreed!
And even if we were to say that the Canon website listing the lenses was the ultimate authority....note that the 200-400 is listed as a super-telephoto... not a super telephoto zoom, and not a telephoto zoom...

I hope this sufficiently confuses the issue