Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed

[dufflover]

Re: Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed

You have to do some pretty bad/stupid/brainfade/very-rare-unexpcted things to break eve the more bodies.

The pricing may be high compared to Nikon but given how long it has been between the D800 high MP body to this, I think it will "work" in that the people who would buy this camera are those who have been waiting all this while for the Canon high MP body; the ones willing to pay more to stay in the Canon system. As in most (obviously not "all") people who would choose the lower priced D810 and 14-24 already did so ages ago, probably

 

[tizianof]

Re: Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed

Why the hell are Euro prices the same as US-Dollar prices, while the exchange rate is far off parity?
This policy really makes me sick.
Are Europeans just willing to pay more, or how come that producers get away with a 1:1 rate??

Consider that american prices are generally "plus taxes", european prices are "IVA/TVA included".
So 3499 euro means around € 2900+taxes. Not so different...

 

[Stu_bert]

Re: Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed

You have to do some pretty bad/stupid/brainfade/very-rare-unexpcted things to break eve the more bodies.

The pricing may be high compared to Nikon but given how long it has been between the D800 high MP body to this, I think it will "work" in that the people who would buy this camera are those who have been waiting all this while for the Canon high MP body; the ones willing to pay more to stay in the Canon system. As in most (obviously not "all") people who would choose the lower priced D810 and 14-24 already did so ages ago, probably

I think he's talking durability vs things breaking. The Pro range have a longer shutter life for instance. If you pay 3-4K for a body, thus placing it firmly in the higher end of dSLR products, should it not have a shelf-life to match?

 

[Stu_bert]

Re: Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed

My definition: a 1DX can only be carried by a PRO all day long....

I'd be willing to bet 1000 quatloos that there are more true amateurs than pros who carry their 1DX all day long.

+1

 

[moreorless]

Re: Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed

The pricing may be high compared to Nikon but given how long it has been between the D800 high MP body to this, I think it will "work" in that the people who would buy this camera are those who have been waiting all this while for the Canon high MP body; the ones willing to pay more to stay in the Canon system. As in most (obviously not "all") people who would choose the lower priced D810 and 14-24 already did so ages ago, probably

That would be my guess as well, your talking $1000 more than the D810 at the moment but if you own 2-3 or more high end lenses then selling up really isn't going to save you a great deal or money if any.

 

[jeffa4444]

Re: Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed

The Canon 5D MKIII body averagely across Germany is currently retailing for € 2449. That makes the 5DS at € 1000 more or 42% more expensive thats a big hike.
The Sony A7R / A7S are well south of the 5D MKIII in pricing so Canon are really pushing the price limits at a time DSLR camera sales are falling.

 

[Sporgon]

Re: Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed

The Canon 5D MKIII body averagely across Germany is currently retailing for € 2449. That makes the 5DS at € 1000 more or 42% more expensive thats a big hike.
The Sony A7R / A7S are well south of the 5D MKIII in pricing so Canon are really pushing the price limits at a time DSLR camera sales are falling.

I think they have priced it as such because they don't forecast selling that many compared with the other FF cameras. It's niche: if you want is so bad you're gonna have to pay the extra for it.

It's exactly the same camera, pretty much, as the immensely successful 5DIII, except for the sensor, so Canon don't have vast resources tied up in the tooling of it.

They are saying "take it or leave it".

 

[lintoni]

Re: Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed

The Canon 5D MKIII body averagely across Germany is currently retailing for € 2449. That makes the 5DS at € 1000 more or 42% more expensive thats a big hike.
The Sony A7R / A7S are well south of the 5D MKIII in pricing so Canon are really pushing the price limits at a time DSLR camera sales are falling.

I think they have priced it as such because they don't forecast selling that many compared with the other FF cameras. It's niche: if you want is so bad you're gonna have to pay the extra for it.

It's exactly the same camera, pretty much, as the immensely successful 5DIII, except for the sensor, so Canon don't have vast resources tied up in the tooling of it.

They are saying "take it or leave it".

It's interesting that Canon seems to be pushing the 5D3 "brand" - the lookalike 7D2, these new bodies...

 

[Orangutan]

Re: Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed

guys - when I complained about 'only semi-pro level' I am referring to durability and building strength.
Featurewise it is quite OK and of course pro-level.
But if I really spend that much money I expect something like 1D durabilty (300k-400k).
I don't have a good feeling spending so much money and the body is only build for half the durabilty like the 1D somethings.

That makes sense. However, you can buy two new 5-series cameras for the price of a single new 1-series camera, yielding the same number of shutter cycles. Or just get the 5-series shutter replaced for a few quid.

I accept the durability argument as regards harsh weather and abuse (e.g. war journalism); aside from that, it's much less expensive to buy a 5-series (or less) and repair or replace it when needed.

Cheers.

 

[davidcl0nel]

Re: Euro Pricing for EOS 5DS, 5DS R & EF 11-24 f/4L Revealed

Someone Who Isn't Me (SWIM) ordered a 6D at a cost of about £1,200 and the (well known) retailer fraudulently stated the price on the import paperwork as about £300.

Your customs guys seems to be very kind...
In Germany the price on the import print usually don't count anything, if the custom guy disbelieve it. Then you get a mail, you have to come to the customs and show the invoice of this 300whatever. If you haven't or only have a real invoice of the complete price, you have to pay the whole price - and the custom price isnt the problem, its the sales tax, currently 19%.
And all that in mind an import isn't as good as it looks like.
I was in Hongkong and Tokyo 2013, and see the prices there. (the displayed price, didn't ask for any discount)... If I add the ~20%, I got about max 10% cheaper than the amazon.de price - and then I dont risk anything, no warranty etc.