From NL: NDAs expiring on the 2nd of March

[unfocused]

Um, what is a NDA? ???

Non-disclosure agreement. Agreement that you will honor any media embargo and not go blabbing things around.

 

[SomeGuyInNewJersey]

I wonder if Apples rumored announcement of an iPad 3 on March may affect Canons choice of timing on the 5d3 announcement?

Rumors on rumors of rumors affecting other rumors I know... but just a thought.

Even though not a dslr camera and iPad 3 release would certainly overload all the tech media for a couple fo days around it...

Maybe thats why a Canon date of the Friday is being thrown around. Either Canon (or just the rumor people) think Canon get in a few days before Apple so they can get some publicity on the 5d3 before Apple talk fills every tech website, newspaper column and other media slots...

As I say just a thought... Idle speculation... nothing more...

 

[moreorless]

this spec would be very nice and very much welcome for me but thinking of 61 pt. AF plus 6 fps I doubt this will happen as this will greatly affect the sales of 1dx. I recon that if 61 pt AF will be put on the a 5d upgrade then we'll get a low fps with it.

Why not ? If you check: native ISO is half of 1D-X, FPS is half of 1D-X - so I doubt it would affect sales of 1D-X. Professional photogs (sports, wildlife, bird guys) need such high FPS and good-high-ISO body. And market for 1D-X (as for all 1D series) is a lot smaller than for 5D Mk III (or whatever it will be).

Canon just can push the price a little higher - around 3000 USD (and no, this will not be competitor to D800 - it is a completly differnet camera). Prices for new 5D Mk II here in Slovakia are around 1800 € so I can imagine new one selling at 2500-2800 € with those specs.

Putting in such features like this pro AF and 6 FPS is wise:
- 7D users would be tempted because of high ISO capabilities and FF
- 5D Mk II users would be tempted because of pro AF, better high ISO and more FPS
- Canon would earn a lot of money, because such body will be selling like crazy (unless you want zilion Mpx)
- and introducing high Mpx body (a split in the line/new line) later will gain even more customers

That are my 0.02 cents.

I'd add that the 1DX seems more obviously focused on those sports, jurno, wildlife users than the 1Ds Mk3 was. The latters problem was I'd say that because it was also partly aimed at the studio/landscape market alot of those users didnt need its extra features so just bought a 5D mk2 instead.

 

[te4o]

dilbert, could you post the link to this "D800 only on tripod" info, this is smth I have been expecting with the high MP bodies. Are there reviewers already?

 

[waving_odd]

dilbert, could you post the link to this "D800 only on tripod" info, this is smth I have been expecting with the high MP bodies. Are there reviewers already?

http://www.nikonusa.com/en_US/o/Y6wrkA9OU_z04IreazIXl_22UII/PDF/D800_TechnicalGuide_En.pdf

"...At the high resolutions offered by the D800/D800E, even the slightest camera motion can result in blur. The technique revealed in this section minimizes blur through a combination of live view photography and a tripod..."

 

[wickidwombat]

LOL that will upset a few wedding photographers

Landscape / billboard printers will be in heaven

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

I'm hoping for 20-somethinig MP ... the Nikon camp is currently in a dither because Nikon is saying that need to use it with a tripod nearly all the time! lolz

And what of the 7D? 60d? 50d? Nobody ever uses them hand-held? Hah, they all have higher photosite density than the D800!

 

[wickidwombat]

I'm hoping for 20-somethinig MP ... the Nikon camp is currently in a dither because Nikon is saying that need to use it with a tripod nearly all the time! lolz

And what of the 7D? 60d? 50d? Nobody ever uses them hand-held? Hah, they all have higher photosite density than the D800!

shhhhh dont go ruining a good story with crazy stuff like facts

 

[briansquibb]

I'd add that the 1DX seems more obviously focused on those sports, jurno, wildlife users than the 1Ds Mk3 was. The latters problem was I'd say that because it was also partly aimed at the studio/landscape market alot of those users didnt need its extra features so just bought a 5D mk2 instead.

The 1d4 was the body for sports and wildlife shooter

The 1Ds3 was for studio and landscape as you say. The 1Ds3 has a lot of extra features over and above the 5D2. The headline feature was of course the AF with everyone latching on to the number of AF points etc.

However there are a lot of little features on the 1Ds3 that dont get into the reviews - such as the ability to select up to 8 af points for metering, metering on the af point rather than the centre point and so on.

Other minor things for landscapers might be the 7 shot bracketing

Plus of course the standard series 1 benefites such as weatherpoofing, dual cards etc

 

[moreorless]

I'd add that the 1DX seems more obviously focused on those sports, jurno, wildlife users than the 1Ds Mk3 was. The latters problem was I'd say that because it was also partly aimed at the studio/landscape market alot of those users didnt need its extra features so just bought a 5D mk2 instead.

The 1d4 was the body for sports and wildlife shooter

The 1Ds3 was for studio and landscape as you say. The 1Ds3 has a lot of extra features over and above the 5D2. The headline feature was of course the AF with everyone latching on to the number of AF points etc.

However there are a lot of little features on the 1Ds3 that dont get into the reviews - such as the ability to select up to 8 af points for metering, metering on the af point rather than the centre point and so on.

Other minor things for landscapers might be the 7 shot bracketing

Plus of course the standard series 1 benefites such as weatherpoofing, dual cards etc

The 1Ds Mk3 did clearly have alot of features that werent obviously aimed at the landscape/studio market though such as the relatively high FPS and advanced AF. Seemed to me like it was partly aimed at the jurno/sport/wildlife market aswell for those shooters who needed the benefits of a larger sensor at the expense of some FPS.

The 1DX seems much more focused on its target market so its likely that more of that market will be less willing to give up its features for a cheaper 5Dmk3/X.

 

[moreorless]

I'm hoping for 20-somethinig MP ... the Nikon camp is currently in a dither because Nikon is saying that need to use it with a tripod nearly all the time! lolz

And what of the 7D? 60d? 50d? Nobody ever uses them hand-held? Hah, they all have higher photosite density than the D800!

Shutter speeds are going to be lower on a D800 at similar ISO's and similar DOF's to crop bodies though arent they?

 

[tt]

I wonder if Apples rumored announcement of an iPad 3 on March may affect Canons choice of timing on the 5d3 announcement?

Apple usually gives out invites to events about a week before and uses Tuesdays for the events most often ( a good press day).
Launching something on ipad3 announcent day would be a big marketing fail.
(eg last launch several UK papers gave front page coverage - Apple has truly gone mainstream).
As an anniversary date an a quiet period Canon should have a good announcement.
There's lots of stories to file once they do as it allows both launch details, product info and comparison pieces.

We'll know lots by 2nd March. And maybe a lot of people rechecking local shops to see if they'll do preorders once the details have come through.

 

[Nostrada]

I'm hoping for 20-somethinig MP ... the Nikon camp is currently in a dither because Nikon is saying that need to use it with a tripod nearly all the time! lolz

And what of the 7D? 60d? 50d? Nobody ever uses them hand-held? Hah, they all have higher photosite density than the D800!

Shutter speeds are going to be lower on a D800 at similar ISO's and similar DOF's to crop bodies though arent they?

One other thing: the DOF on a crop body, even at the same f-stop, will be greater than on a FF body, so I would assume this helps minimise the effects of high photosite density and make the image appear sharper, simply because more of it is in focus.

 

[briansquibb]

I'm hoping for 20-somethinig MP ... the Nikon camp is currently in a dither because Nikon is saying that need to use it with a tripod nearly all the time! lolz

And what of the 7D? 60d? 50d? Nobody ever uses them hand-held? Hah, they all have higher photosite density than the D800!

Shutter speeds are going to be lower on a D800 at similar ISO's and similar DOF's to crop bodies though arent they?

One other thing: the DOF on a crop body, even at the same f-stop, will be greater than on a FF body, so I would assume this helps minimise the effects of high photosite density and make the image appear sharper, simply because more of it is in focus.

... or a messier bg blur

 

[Kernuak]

I'm hoping for 20-somethinig MP ... the Nikon camp is currently in a dither because Nikon is saying that need to use it with a tripod nearly all the time! lolz

And what of the 7D? 60d? 50d? Nobody ever uses them hand-held? Hah, they all have higher photosite density than the D800!

Shutter speeds are going to be lower on a D800 at similar ISO's and similar DOF's to crop bodies though arent they?

One other thing: the DOF on a crop body, even at the same f-stop, will be greater than on a FF body, so I would assume this helps minimise the effects of high photosite density and make the image appear sharper, simply because more of it is in focus.

Only if the field of view is identical. If taken from the same spot with the same setup (and therefore a different field of view), then the full frame actually has greater DoF.