Help! 1DX II Cfast issues!

neuroanatomist said:
nvsravank said:
Bah! Copy using Lightroom etc is ok

'Cuz, you know, it worked just perfectly for the OP.

Aren't there dual cards in that 1D MK II? I use the 2nd card in my 5D MK III for a backup copy just in case, because if I don't, then something will happen. I've never lost a image on import, but there is always a first time. Even so, if its important, I write to both cards.
 
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
neuroanatomist said:
nvsravank said:
Bah! Copy using Lightroom etc is ok

'Cuz, you know, it worked just perfectly for the OP.

Aren't there dual cards in that 1D MK II? I use the 2nd card in my 5D MK III for a backup copy just in case, because if I don't, then something will happen. I've never lost a image on import, but there is always a first time. Even so, if its important, I write to both cards.

Yep. I always write RAW to both cards in my 1D X, I alternate a pair of cards in slot 1, swapping after each shoot (formatting after the images are on my SSD and backed up to at least one HDD), leaving the card in slot 2 as an emergency backup until it's getting near full.
 
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
neuroanatomist said:
nvsravank said:
Bah! Copy using Lightroom etc is ok

'Cuz, you know, it worked just perfectly for the OP.

Aren't there dual cards in that 1D MK II? I use the 2nd card in my 5D MK III for a backup copy just in case, because if I don't, then something will happen. I've never lost a image on import, but there is always a first time. Even so, if its important, I write to both cards.

I plan on using a same-sized CF along with a Cfast card in my 1Dx2. However, If I expect to do CH shooting I will use the CF card for overflow. This should also allow for 14 FPS. Hopefully Sandisk will come out with a Cfast >128 GB. With my 1Dx1 I have filled a 128 card and gone to the second a few times while shooting in CH.
 
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fish_shooter said:
Mt Spokane Photography said:
neuroanatomist said:
nvsravank said:
Bah! Copy using Lightroom etc is ok

'Cuz, you know, it worked just perfectly for the OP.

Aren't there dual cards in that 1D MK II? I use the 2nd card in my 5D MK III for a backup copy just in case, because if I don't, then something will happen. I've never lost a image on import, but there is always a first time. Even so, if its important, I write to both cards.

I plan on using a same-sized CF along with a Cfast card in my 1Dx2. However, If I expect to do CH shooting I will use the CF card for overflow. This should also allow for 14 FPS. Hopefully Sandisk will come out with a Cfast >128 GB. With my 1Dx1 I have filled a 128 card and gone to the second a few times while shooting in CH.

There should be larger cards, any reason a Lexar won't work?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1186716-REG/lexar_lc256crbna3600_pro_3600x_cfast_memory.html#!

There are larger, buy one and tell us if it works ;)

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1248617-REG/cinegears_3_011_512gb_cfast_2_0_card.html

http://www.coremicro.com/wise-512gb-cfast-2-0-3500x-memory-card
 
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Mt Spokane Photography said:
fish_shooter said:
Mt Spokane Photography said:
neuroanatomist said:
nvsravank said:
Bah! Copy using Lightroom etc is ok

'Cuz, you know, it worked just perfectly for the OP.

Aren't there dual cards in that 1D MK II? I use the 2nd card in my 5D MK III for a backup copy just in case, because if I don't, then something will happen. I've never lost a image on import, but there is always a first time. Even so, if its important, I write to both cards.

I plan on using a same-sized CF along with a Cfast card in my 1Dx2. However, If I expect to do CH shooting I will use the CF card for overflow. This should also allow for 14 FPS. Hopefully Sandisk will come out with a Cfast >128 GB. With my 1Dx1 I have filled a 128 card and gone to the second a few times while shooting in CH.

There should be larger cards, any reason a Lexar won't work?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1186716-REG/lexar_lc256crbna3600_pro_3600x_cfast_memory.html#!

There are larger, buy one and tell us if it works ;)

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1248617-REG/cinegears_3_011_512gb_cfast_2_0_card.html

http://www.coremicro.com/wise-512gb-cfast-2-0-3500x-memory-card

A couple of reasons:

1. Canon recommends Sandisk cards.
2. There are threads suggesting Lexar problems with existing Canon cameras that use Cfast cards (Cine line).

I will let someone else try them ;->>
 
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fish_shooter said:
Mt Spokane Photography said:
fish_shooter said:
Mt Spokane Photography said:
neuroanatomist said:
nvsravank said:
Bah! Copy using Lightroom etc is ok

'Cuz, you know, it worked just perfectly for the OP.

Aren't there dual cards in that 1D MK II? I use the 2nd card in my 5D MK III for a backup copy just in case, because if I don't, then something will happen. I've never lost a image on import, but there is always a first time. Even so, if its important, I write to both cards.

I plan on using a same-sized CF along with a Cfast card in my 1Dx2. However, If I expect to do CH shooting I will use the CF card for overflow. This should also allow for 14 FPS. Hopefully Sandisk will come out with a Cfast >128 GB. With my 1Dx1 I have filled a 128 card and gone to the second a few times while shooting in CH.

There should be larger cards, any reason a Lexar won't work?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1186716-REG/lexar_lc256crbna3600_pro_3600x_cfast_memory.html#!

There are larger, buy one and tell us if it works ;)

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1248617-REG/cinegears_3_011_512gb_cfast_2_0_card.html

http://www.coremicro.com/wise-512gb-cfast-2-0-3500x-memory-card

A couple of reasons:

1. Canon recommends Sandisk cards.
2. There are threads suggesting Lexar problems with existing Canon cameras that use Cfast cards (Cine line).

I will let someone else try them ;->>

I was hoping you would try them ;) I have no idea as to the various brands and their compatibility, but if 128GB is the largest that works, Canon made a error regarding availability of cards that are needed for video.

I'm hoping they don't appear in a 5D MK IV, but if it has 4K video, they will be needed.
 
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dcm said:
The latest version of Lightroom also supports the 1DX2. I also use DxO OP but haven't seen an update yet. I stopped using Aperture a while ago when they put it on the back burner. I didn't check out Photos on the Mac yet to see if it supports the 1DX2/CFast. I don't believe it popped up when I connected the card to my Mac. Something to do tonight after work.

Did a little checking. My MacMini / OS X El Capitan (10.11.4) can access the CFast card (Sandisk included in the promo bundle) just fine. The Photos app can access the file and show the thumbnail after importing, but nothing more. It displays a warning sign in place of the image after it imports - a pretty clear sign it doesn't know how to interpret the file. I left the original image on the card, I never use automatic delete options.

I see that a new version of Digital Camera Raw (6.19) was installed on April 23 and includes support for several bodies, including the Nikon D5/D500 and Sony Alpha ILDE 6300. Assume it won't be too long before there is an update that includes the 1DX2.
 
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fish_shooter said:
I do not let any software do the copying of my files from CF or SD cards (and Cfast in a few days!) onto computer HDs. I do it always with the OS.

If the software is correctly written, it does call the same copy file functions the OS does, so little difference (but if you feel safer, use the OS). The quality of the card and card reader matters more (and check for card readers firmware updates as well).

Just, it's better the software does copy only and doesn't delete also (across different disks, "move" is always a "copy/delete" operation).

But if you read forum posts about Aperture, you would be surprised about how many users actually asked for being able to automatically delete files after an import, without understanding the risks of losing them.

Too much confidence in Apple hardware and software, maybe :D Guess most Microsoft users are much more careful...
 
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neuroanatomist said:
fish_shooter said:
For my own workflow I do not let any software do the copying of my files from CF or SD cards (and Cfast in a few days!) onto computer HDs.

Also good advice. Manually copy the files from the card, don't 'import' them. After copying, import them from your local drive into your favorite editor/converter.

May I ask why? You guys have got me mildly worried I'm doing something wrong now, but I've never had a problem letting Lightroom import the photos for me... What could go wrong? :-\
 
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scyrene said:
neuroanatomist said:
fish_shooter said:
For my own workflow I do not let any software do the copying of my files from CF or SD cards (and Cfast in a few days!) onto computer HDs.

Also good advice. Manually copy the files from the card, don't 'import' them. After copying, import them from your local drive into your favorite editor/converter.

May I ask why? You guys have got me mildly worried I'm doing something wrong now, but I've never had a problem letting Lightroom import the photos for me... What could go wrong? :-\

Inadvertently altering the settings for delete on import or handling of duplicate images.
 
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scyrene said:
neuroanatomist said:
fish_shooter said:
For my own workflow I do not let any software do the copying of my files from CF or SD cards (and Cfast in a few days!) onto computer HDs.

Also good advice. Manually copy the files from the card, don't 'import' them. After copying, import them from your local drive into your favorite editor/converter.

May I ask why? You guys have got me mildly worried I'm doing something wrong now, but I've never had a problem letting Lightroom import the photos for me... What could go wrong? :-\

When working with important data, keep things as simple as possible.

Apple and Microsoft, at their core of cores, are disk operating systems. Using the file transfer feature of an OS keeps it as simple as possible.

Once a program, even tried and true, gets involved in moving files from one medium (here a Cfast card) to another (be it SSD or HDD), a whole new set of code AND user options get involved. Chances of something going wrong are small, but statistically have now increased over using just the OS.

Though not 100% on point (transferring files already on the HDD to somewhere else), here's a thread on an Adobe forum discussing LR vs OS:

https://forums.adobe.com/message/8240928#8240928
 
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neuroanatomist said:
fish_shooter said:
For my own workflow I do not let any software do the copying of my files from CF or SD cards (and Cfast in a few days!) onto computer HDs.

Also good advice. Manually copy the files from the card, don't 'import' them. After copying, import them from your local drive into your favorite editor/converter.

This is exactly what I have always done....

- Pull card from camera, use reliable reader.
- Copy everything to an organized directory on the "PicsB4LR" Drive.
- Use "FastRawViewer" to cull out unwanted images.
- Import in LR from the "PicsB4LR" drive to a PICTURES directory on a different RAID array drive.
- Store CF card safely until I finish processing, exporting and uploading images to Zenfolio.

Notice that there are images in 2, 3 and finally 4 places before I re-use the CF card.
 
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I want to add one other habit I try to use...

Multiple CF Cards. Especially if I'm travelling or it's a big shoot or a very important shoot. I would rather have 4 x 16 GB cards than one 64 GB card. Most of my cards are no larger than 32 GB and I very rarely fill them up.

- I'll swap cards after an hour or two of an important shoot.
- I'll swap cards at least every day while travelling (depending pictures value and number of shots).
- If I travel for more than a couple days, I take my Nexto media drive "backer-upper".

Why? If one card is failing, I only lose a portion of the images. If the camera is lost or stolen, I only lose a portion of the images. In other words, keep the images in multiple locations, even when those locations are your pockets, the camera, the backpack, another drive, etc. Keeping all of your images on one large media is risky, hazardous and honestly... lazy. I've done it before on afternoon shoots where I shoot a lot and I'll be back in a couple hours. But even then I know I'm risking image loss if something bad happens.

I use blue painter's tape on all my CF cards with a tab hanging off the back. When I pull a card from the camera, I move the tape around to cover the pin hole side and I know it's a "used" card.
 
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LDS said:
fish_shooter said:
I do not let any software do the copying of my files from CF or SD cards (and Cfast in a few days!) onto computer HDs. I do it always with the OS.

If the software is correctly written, it does call the same copy file functions the OS does, so little difference (but if you feel safer, use the OS). The quality of the card and card reader matters more (and check for card readers firmware updates as well).

Just, it's better the software does copy only and doesn't delete also (across different disks, "move" is always a "copy/delete" operation).

But if you read forum posts about Aperture, you would be surprised about how many users actually asked for being able to automatically delete files after an import, without understanding the risks of losing them.

Too much confidence in Apple hardware and software, maybe :D Guess most Microsoft users are much more careful...

I've been using Aperture for 10 years or so and never had this issue... I do the same every day. After import, Aperture asks to delete or keep the files. I alway keep them, just in case. This time the import went wrong to begin with. I guess Aperture itself generated the delete command without asking me but, again, this is the first time this happens.
 
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dcm said:
The latest version of Lightroom also supports the 1DX2. I also use DxO OP but haven't seen an update yet. I stopped using Aperture a while ago when they put it on the back burner. I didn't check out Photos on the Mac yet to see if it supports the 1DX2/CFast. I don't believe it popped up when I connected the card to my Mac. Something to do tonight after work.
Aperture is still much better at organizing collections and smart albums and finding photos. Lightroom has a better Raw processor but the interface and speed don't compare. I have tried to force myself to use it many times but it is so bad that I go back to Aperture. I mostly use the Show in finder command from Aperture, open the cr2 file and open it in photoshop. One at a time. It works fine for me.
 
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scyrene said:
neuroanatomist said:
fish_shooter said:
For my own workflow I do not let any software do the copying of my files from CF or SD cards (and Cfast in a few days!) onto computer HDs.

Also good advice. Manually copy the files from the card, don't 'import' them. After copying, import them from your local drive into your favorite editor/converter.

May I ask why? You guys have got me mildly worried I'm doing something wrong now, but I've never had a problem letting Lightroom import the photos for me... What could go wrong? :-\
This was a freak accident for me. I've never had any problems importing from Aperture or in any case, Lightroom. It does the same as OS copy but with one less step. I prefer it. You can still use LR to import. It won't delete anything unless u tell it to.
 
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