Mark D5 TEAM II
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It's practically a mirrorless 1DX3.
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Canon Europe: Dynamic range – we can tell you that the EOS R5 is one stop better than the EOS R, and that the EOS R6 is similar to the EOS-1D X Mark III.
I found R6 as being a no go, due to "only" 20mpx (we've got a 5DIV with 30mpx) and we need some ability to crop (weddings, ppl around, things happening quickly), but ... dunno why, R6 seems as being a more balanced product to me. Maybe I can see those 8K videos and stuff as being over the board, I don't know. Maybe it is just because I have seen a 4000 ISO image from R6 on dpreview - so clean! Good times ahead anyway![]()
I guess I look at it as an actual user and not a spec warrior. Canons competition has up until recently offered steaming piles of barely functional Rhino s@#t(but geez they had great specs) that are uncomfortable to hold onto and would likely fail in challenging conditions(except for Nikon obviously, they have always had pretty good gear). Canon has always offered stuff that WORKS. Sonys AMAZING sensors were useless when the camera decided for no good reason to go on a bloody break. It is only in the last generation that Sony have been able to offer a decent camera body that has SOME level of comfort and seems to be reliable. I think I will stick with the company that actually cares about offering a quality product. At least, quality as I see it. In the hand and not on paper
I posted this on the preorder thread, but it may be more appropriate here. Sorry for the redundancy. Is IPB on the R6 a big deal? I’m on a T3i (I know, sorry). I’m a woodworker, so I focus primarily on stills for my online store and social media, but I’ve recently started making some income on YouTube since I started posting videos of my builds. I don’t know much about All-I compared to IPB, or if it’s even worth thinking about. I would like that “cinematic” look, and wonder about color grading IPB, etc. Thanks for any advice or information. I got up at 4:50am to watch the release. Woo
If the R6 were 30MP I'd be all over it. As it is I can't shake the gut conviction it'd be a huge step down with 20MP. (Yes, I know, I've read all of the arguments as to why it's not really so.) So R5 it shall be. Better overkill than underkill.
I have never shot the Panasonic. The sonys suck balls. At least they sucked balls up untill the A7r4 and the A9. You don't develop a reputation of constantly overheating or just randomly shutting off if you don't do those things. And holding on to them is an incredibly unpleasant experience. The Olys are also fairly poor ergonomically but they do off the true advantage of being small(except for the EM1) so it is an acceptable compromise. Nikon are pretty good. I don't like the layout on the back but overall they make comfy cameras. I have listened to way too many people complain about their fancy sonys to ever buy one. I have seen them fail right next to me in the heavy mist of a waterfall FFSThat's pretty ridiculous, and I guess that you've never owned cameras from the competition. Panasonic make gear that makes anything but a 1DX seem flimsy in comparison, with ergonomics that are better than Canon's, and an interface that seems designed by people who actually use the product, not just look at blueprints and spec sheets. Sony cameras are reliable and work for years (I've owned many), and generally take the approach of giving the users as much as possible, and let them decide what they want to do with the gear. They're complicated, yes, but if one masters the interface they work exactly as one wants to, and not in the way that some guy in Tokyo decided it has to be.
But anyway, the R6 seems to be finally more or less free from crippling. That is the kind of product that most of us have expected from Canon for years. Let's see if it's not too late to solidify RF's position in the market, though.
Comparison of feature differences for R5 vs R6 (differences only):
APPEARANCE AND CAMERA CONTROLS
R5: PC terminal
IMAGE SENSOR
R5: Effective pixels (max. approx. megapixels) 45.0
R6: Effective pixels (max. approx. megapixels) 20.1
STILL PHOTO RECORDING
R5: Maximum burst RAW SD card: 66 CFexpress card: 180
JPEG Large / Fine SD card: 190 CFexpress card: 350
R6: Maximum burst RAW Standard card 110 High-speed card 240
JPEG Large / Fine Standard card 110 High-speed card 240
R5: Possible shots (at 23°C / 73°F, Screen, Smooth) 320
R6: Possible shots (at 23°C / 73°F, Screen, Smooth) 360
MOVIE RECORDING
R5: Movie recording size 8K DCI / UHD
R5: Movie recording size 4K High Frame Rate (119.88 / 100.00)
R5: Movie recording size 4K DCI 59.94, 29.97, 24.00, 23.98/50.00, 25.00, 24.00
R5: Movie recording size RAW movies
R5: Movie recording size 4K HQ mode movies
R5: Time-lapse movies 8K / 4K / Full HD
R6: Time-lapse movies 4K / Full HD
R5: Canon Log P / Tv / Av / M
R6: Canon Log Movie auto exposure Movie manual exposure
R5: Built-in microphone Monaural
R6: Built-in microphone Stereo
VIEWFINDER
R5: Dot count (approx.) 5.76 million dots
R6: Dot count (approx.) 3.69 million dots
MONITOR
R5: Dot count (approx.) 2.1 million dots
R6: Dot count (approx.) 1.62 million dots
AUTOFOCUS
R5: Focusing brightness range: Stills: EV –6 to 20
R6: Focusing brightness range: Stills: EV –6.5 to 20
R5: Focusing brightness range: Movies: 8K: EV -3 to 20 4K/Full HD: EV -4 to 20
R6: Focusing brightness range: Movies: EV –5 to 20
EXPOSURE CONTROL
R5: Movie A+ / P / Tv / Av / M / C1 / C2 / C3
R6: Movie A+*/Movie auto exposure/Movie manual exposure *Movie recordingis possible in A+ mode by pressing the movie shooting button.
R5: ISO Stills: Normal 100–51200
R6: ISO Stills: Normal 100–102400
R5: ISO Stills: Hi speed expansion 102400
R6: ISO Stills: Hi speed expansion 204800
R5: ISO Movies: Hi speed expansion 51200
R6: ISO Movies: Hi speed expansion 204800
IMAGE PROCESSING AFTER SHOOTING
R5: DPRAW processing (portrait relighting, background clarity)
R5: HEIF→JPEG conversion 8K/4K
R6: HEIF→JPEG conversion Yes
R5: Voice memo
R6: Frame grab
EXTERNAL INTERFACE
R5: Wireless File Transmitter support
WIRELESS COMMUNICATION
R5: 5 GHz Wi-Fi support
RECORDING MEDIA
R5: CFexpress card / SD,SDHC, SDXC memory cards
R6: SD, SDHC, SDXC memory cards
DIMENSIONS AND WEIGHT
R5: 138.5 x 97.5 x 88.0
R6: 138.4 x 97.5 x 88.4
R5: Weight 738g
R6: Weight 680g
I guess I look at it as an actual user and not a spec warrior. Canons competition has up until recently offered steaming piles of barely functional Rhino s@#t(but geez they had great specs) that are uncomfortable to hold onto and would likely fail in challenging conditions(except for Nikon obviously, they have always had pretty good gear). Canon has always offered stuff that WORKS. Sonys AMAZING sensors were useless when the camera decided for no good reason to go on a bloody break. It is only in the last generation that Sony have been able to offer a decent camera body that has SOME level of comfort and seems to be reliable. I think I will stick with the company that actually cares about offering a quality product. At least, quality as I see it. In the hand and not on paper
Sonys stopped working for far more reasons than overheating. And the overheating was not because of 8k. When it did heat doing video it was because of lower quality video and was not aknowledged or warned about. People found out the hard way. Canon have pushed the envelope. They have been straight up about it they are therefore NOT claiming it can do something it cant. . And they have still managed 20min at 8k. That is phenomenal.. not that i would care as i never do video anyway. Now IF it does not last as long as claimed. IF it claps out at a few minutes of recording then I will agree with you.It seems that Canon have embraced the Sony "barely functional Rhino s@#t(but geez they had great specs) that... would likely fail in challenging conditions" way of thinking
The R5 overheats in 8K. Which is obvious, as it as no active cooling, but still, I'm glad that Canon have left their crippling ways behind. I'd rather have cutting-edge features, even if not completely perfected, than products that only deliver 80% of their potential.
But... but... It's actually 6 MP less! DOOMED!Going through this thread so many people complaining about so little. The difference between the 6D MKII and the R6 is vast. Sure its 4MP less but your never see the difference because the image will be cleaner due to the newer sensor and processing.
But... but... It's actually 6 MP less! DOOMED!
What I like about the R6 is that it seems very well rounded. As far as what we know currently, it has a enough specs from the top models to make it seem like a great value.