High ISO Samples from the Canon EOS 7D Mark II

[RodS57]

Sorry if this has been mentioned before but I just can't keep up with all the posts. Also realize this is off topic for this thread.

1. Price in Canada, for the couple of sites I checked, is now at 1899.99. Up from the original 1799.99. This possible price variation between Canada and US was mentioned but now it's real.

2. Per specs at canon.ca the actual number of focus points and their type will depend on the lens used. No examples listed. No idea what kind of a real world effect this will have.

 

[ishdakuteb]

RAW… need RAW… why can't someone at Photokina snap some high-ISO RAW images and post? Need to know if I should cancel my preorder. Please??

i, so far, found one source that offers raw files, but not for high iso. you might email matt granger (aka the nikon guy) to ask if he has them or not. however, below is the link that offer raw files to download

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-7d-mark-ii/canon-7d-mark-iiGALLERY.HTM

about application to read these raw files, i do not know the answer. i might try to find out later when i am home...

note: however, these captures were done with beta camera. there will probably more tweak at release...

 

[mkabi]

Click the pictures and look at the pictures!
They are RAW transformed into jpeg without in-camera noise reduction. Hence you are able to see how much noise at each level.

What was used for the RAW conversion?

I don't know... but I assume its the EOS software.
You can clearly see the difference between the 12800 ISO pic that Matt Granger took versus these ones. So, there you go... you have an idea, if you were one of the pre-order peeps and want 12,800 ISO RAW to be clean, don't expect miracles.

I want to know how good ISO in video mode is...

 

[Loswr]

2. Per specs at canon.ca the actual number of focus points and their type will depend on the lens used. No examples listed. No idea what kind of a real world effect this will have.

Look at the 1D X or 5DIII for a rough idea. There'll be a group A with f/2.8 and faster lenses except the f/2.8 macros, that do 65 cross with center dual cross. A group B with lenses slower than f/2.8 but at least f/5.6 that lose the center dual cross. Since all 65 pts are f/5.6 crosses (unlike the 1D X/5DIII which has f/4 crosses), the majority of lenses will be A or B. Then will come several groups with a few lenses each, old (film days) variable zooms with f/5.6 at the long end, and a few lenses like the 180L Macro, each group having a column or two from the edges acting as lines instead of crosses. The last group will be the f/8 lens+TC combos with the center point plus four expansion points.

 

[Steve]

What was used for the RAW conversion?

Probably done in camera with NR turned off

If these shots are a good representation of what we can expect with RAW, then it looks like it could be passable up to 3200, maaaaayyyyyvbee 6400 with really careful NR and no cropping. Which is a lot better than I remember from my 7D.

 

[RodS57]

2. Per specs at canon.ca the actual number of focus points and their type will depend on the lens used. No examples listed. No idea what kind of a real world effect this will have.

Look at the 1D X or 5DIII for a rough idea. There'll be a group A with f/2.8 and faster lenses except the f/2.8 macros, that do 65 cross with center dual cross. A group B with lenses slower than f/2.8 but at least f/5.6 that lose the center dual cross. Since all 65 pts are f/5.6 crosses (unlike the 1D X/5DIII which has f/4 crosses), the majority of lenses will be A or B. Then will come several groups with a few lenses each, old (film days) variable zooms with f/5.6 at the long end, and a few lenses like the 180L Macro, each group having a column or two from the edges acting as lines instead of crosses. The last group will be the f/8 lens+TC combos with the center point plus four expansion points.

Thanks. I sort of envisioned the 65 points turning in the 9 I have now. Would this explain the push to bundle it with the 24-70 F4 L. Trying, with the addition of an 'L' lens, to show the camera at its best vs the package with the STM lens.

Rod

 

[Loswr]

2. Per specs at canon.ca the actual number of focus points and their type will depend on the lens used. No examples listed. No idea what kind of a real world effect this will have.

Look at the 1D X or 5DIII for a rough idea. There'll be a group A with f/2.8 and faster lenses except the f/2.8 macros, that do 65 cross with center dual cross. A group B with lenses slower than f/2.8 but at least f/5.6 that lose the center dual cross. Since all 65 pts are f/5.6 crosses (unlike the 1D X/5DIII which has f/4 crosses), the majority of lenses will be A or B. Then will come several groups with a few lenses each, old (film days) variable zooms with f/5.6 at the long end, and a few lenses like the 180L Macro, each group having a column or two from the edges acting as lines instead of crosses. The last group will be the f/8 lens+TC combos with the center point plus four expansion points.

Thanks. I sort of envisioned the 65 points turning in the 9 I have now. Would this explain the push to bundle it with the 24-70 F4 L. Trying, with the addition of an 'L' lens, to show the camera at its best vs the package with the STM lens.

Rod

No need to worry - most lenses will give you 65 cross points. But...it wouldn't surprise me if some of the current EF-S f/3.5-5.6 kit zooms have a column or two at the sides revert to lines instead of crosses, due to vignetting (you won't see that issue with EF lenses).

 

[Northstar]

While I don't particularly care for DXO in general, I do think their "sports low light high ISO" scores are useful. I've always understood the scores to represent a point where DXO feels high ISO starts to degrade the image.

The first image shows the current best "low light high ISO" of all brands of CROP camera bodies. The best crop score comes from the Nikon d3300 at a score of 1385 ISO.

The second image shows the best of the Canon FF - with the 1DX clearly coming out on top, roughly a full stop better than the best crop body.

It's pretty unlikely the 7D2 will score better than these other crop bodies, so "incredible high ISO RAW images" are probably unlikely, and FF is still king in this regard.

 

[2n10]

I would think that the 70D would give a floor level idea.