High Megapixel EOS on the Way as Mentioned by Canon

[henrywang]

We were told previously that there would be 3 EOS cameras in 2014, and so far we have seen just one, the white Rebel SL1 (if this counts as a new camera).

I won't count the white SL1 as a new EOS camera.

Are we not counting the 1200D as an EOS camera? ???

 

[nonac]

Because, there are survey results 4-5% of customers who bought the kit lens is that it does not use only kit lens.

Would indeed be interesting to see an accurate translation of this. Do 5% never buy another lens? If so that is an amazing stst

I could believe that easily 4-5% never buy another lens. I know people with DSLRs that bought a kit and are just fine with their kit zoom. They take pictures only once in a while such as on a trip or at some big event. It just depends on how much they get into photography.

 

[Lee Jay]

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I still want a TS-E14 though ;-)

If the coverage of the TS-E17 is anything to go by, a TS-E14 with any notable shift would be somewhere between huge, expensive and impossible.

Yes, I have both the TS-E17 and EF14 mk2

Impossible - I doubt it. Huge and expensive - that's fine by me ;-)

If it makes it more likely then TS-E15 at a push... ;-)

Is stitching not doable for your application? The TS-E17 is the widest rectilinear lens available for EF mount, it's just that you can't capture the entire image circle all at once. If you shift it all around, you can create a very, very wide (around 10mm equivalent, IIRC) panorama all without moving the lens, just the camera behind it.

 

[Loswr]

Because, there are survey results 4-5% of customers who bought the kit lens is that it does not use only kit lens.

Would indeed be interesting to see an accurate translation of this. Do 5% never buy another lens? If so that is an amazing stst

I could believe that easily 4-5% never buy another lens. I know people with DSLRs that bought a kit and are just fine with their kit zoom. They take pictures only once in a while such as on a trip or at some big event. It just depends on how much they get into photography.

I sincerely doubt it means 4-5% don't buy lens(es) beyond the kit. The lens + body sales milestones (100M lenses, 70M bodies) aren't consistent with that interpretation.

 

[Antono Refa]

Does this mean that only 4-5% of buyers purchase a second lens? Having followed Canon's various announcements over the years as they hit milestones in camera and lens production, it is obvious that most people never go beyond a kit lens, but a 95% rate seems remarkably high to me.

I wouldn't be too surprised.

My grandpa used to develop and print his own B&W photos, and he had only three primes (35mm, 50mm, and 135mm). Two of my cousins bought a rebel with two lenses in the kit (18-55mm + 55-250mm), and I'll bet hell will freeze before either buys another lens.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Oooooooo it's on like Donkey Kong.

 

[Lee Jay]

Because, there are survey results 4-5% of customers who bought the kit lens is that it does not use only kit lens.

Would indeed be interesting to see an accurate translation of this. Do 5% never buy another lens? If so that is an amazing stst

I could believe that easily 4-5% never buy another lens. I know people with DSLRs that bought a kit and are just fine with their kit zoom. They take pictures only once in a while such as on a trip or at some big event. It just depends on how much they get into photography.

I sincerely doubt it means 4-5% don't buy lens(es) beyond the kit. The lens + body sales milestones (100M lenses, 70M bodies) aren't consistent with that interpretation.

I agree. I thought it was more like 5% do buy lenses beyond the kit lens.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Fine...but which lens was he talking about? Perhaps the 'high resolution EOS' will be APS-C...

Well the guy was just talking about using adapted lenses on A7R instead of a 5D3 to get higher density and then the Canon guy came back with his statement so I think it implies 95% that he was referring to FF (and 99% once you consider that 18MP is already pretty high density for APS-C and already out there).

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Unlike many Google translations, this one is a bit more readable...

Hah, I love how the very first translated word was along the lines of "things to make you worried about these 2 new lenses: they have IS, high quality imaging, light weight. "

And it got worse from there .

 

[AlanF]

Because, there are survey results 4-5% of customers who bought the kit lens is that it does not use only kit lens.

Would indeed be interesting to see an accurate translation of this. Do 5% never buy another lens? If so that is an amazing stst

I could believe that easily 4-5% never buy another lens. I know people with DSLRs that bought a kit and are just fine with their kit zoom. They take pictures only once in a while such as on a trip or at some big event. It just depends on how much they get into photography.

I sincerely doubt it means 4-5% don't buy lens(es) beyond the kit. The lens + body sales milestones (100M lenses, 70M bodies) aren't consistent with that interpretation.

Perhaps, you have bought 30M lenses so the rest of the world has only one per camera. Or, perhaps 5% of 70M (3.5 M) have 30M lenses, ~9 per camera, whereas the remaining 95% have only one each.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Because, there are survey results 4-5% of customers who bought the kit lens is that it does not use only kit lens.

Would indeed be interesting to see an accurate translation of this. Do 5% never buy another lens? If so that is an amazing stst

I could believe that easily 4-5% never buy another lens. I know people with DSLRs that bought a kit and are just fine with their kit zoom. They take pictures only once in a while such as on a trip or at some big event. It just depends on how much they get into photography.

wouldn't the is does NOT only use the kit lens, imply the opposite though?

 

[Rick]

Unlike many Google translations, this one is a bit more readable...

I note the comment that the 16-35 mk2 was good for APS-H ;-)

The multiple aspheric lens surfaces allow them to ease some of the compromise between reducing distortion and field flatness. The two front lens elements make quite a significant contribution to this and will likely be seen again in new ultra wide zoom designs.

I still want a TS-E14 though ;-)

Actually, I was going to ask someone to translate the translation.

I have often made the assertion on DPR that the 16-35 II was designed for APS-H because 1.) it was introduced alongside the 1D III and 2.) the edge/corner performance obviously was not up to FF standards MP counts of the time period notwithstanding. Of course, I was criticized for this viewpoint (which I still hold). It looked to me like the interviewer made the reference to APS-H but the interviewees did not touch on the reference.

 

[mackguyver]

Because, there are survey results 4-5% of customers who bought the kit lens is that it does not use only kit lens.

Would indeed be interesting to see an accurate translation of this. Do 5% never buy another lens? If so that is an amazing stst

I could believe that easily 4-5% never buy another lens. I know people with DSLRs that bought a kit and are just fine with their kit zoom. They take pictures only once in a while such as on a trip or at some big event. It just depends on how much they get into photography.

wouldn't the is does NOT only use the kit lens, imply the opposite though?

I also find this confusing, but read somewhere (trying to find the source) that 80-90% of DSLR owners (that would be Rebels & their Nikon ilk) never remove their kit lens. Alan's math makes sense in that regard, plus, not every SLR or DSLR owner throws away their body after two years. People have bought my old bodies, and I bet many of them still own them.

 

[jrista]

Because, there are survey results 4-5% of customers who bought the kit lens is that it does not use only kit lens.

Would indeed be interesting to see an accurate translation of this. Do 5% never buy another lens? If so that is an amazing stst

I could believe that easily 4-5% never buy another lens. I know people with DSLRs that bought a kit and are just fine with their kit zoom. They take pictures only once in a while such as on a trip or at some big event. It just depends on how much they get into photography.

I sincerely doubt it means 4-5% don't buy lens(es) beyond the kit. The lens + body sales milestones (100M lenses, 70M bodies) aren't consistent with that interpretation.

Unless those 4-5% are each buying multiple lenses. I mean, personally, I have purchased five different lenses than the 18-55mm lens that came with my original 450D kit. I know I'm not even remotely close to a "lens collector", as many people are.

Another thing I'd bet is, Canon only accounts for new lenses other than the kit bought. I am quite certain that more than 5% of DSLR buyers also buy other lenses, but I think there is a very significant market for used lenses. I'd be willing to bet that at least 30% of Canon DSLR owners buy another lens, and the majority of them buy one used.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

One thing that I did get out of the interview is that AF accuracy of the 16-35mm f/4L is going to be better. Having worked on quite a few lenses, the internal sensor for position of the lens elements that is used in AF is a weak point.

Sasaki: is exactly right. Especially the ultra wide-angle zoom also point bring quality design value as Group 1 role, firmly keep the accuracy here. Also is designed to improve the mechanism to hold the optics, even very slight wobble-focus lens and pay attention very stable optical performance to get the total consideration.

As well as giving care to the lens position detection accuracy. The to improve little by little such innovation and improvement is a story which is very sober, but that has led to total quality improvement.

 

[Chuck Alaimo]

Because, there are survey results 4-5% of customers who bought the kit lens is that it does not use only kit lens.

Would indeed be interesting to see an accurate translation of this. Do 5% never buy another lens? If so that is an amazing stst

I could believe that easily 4-5% never buy another lens. I know people with DSLRs that bought a kit and are just fine with their kit zoom. They take pictures only once in a while such as on a trip or at some big event. It just depends on how much they get into photography.

I sincerely doubt it means 4-5% don't buy lens(es) beyond the kit. The lens + body sales milestones (100M lenses, 70M bodies) aren't consistent with that interpretation.

Unless those 4-5% are each buying multiple lenses. I mean, personally, I have purchased five different lenses than the 18-55mm lens that came with my original 450D kit. I know I'm not even remotely close to a "lens collector", as many people are.

Another thing I'd bet is, Canon only accounts for new lenses other than the kit bought. I am quite certain that more than 5% of DSLR buyers also buy other lenses, but I think there is a very significant market for used lenses. I'd be willing to bet that at least 30% of Canon DSLR owners buy another lens, and the majority of them buy one used.

Used Market - I was wondering if those #'s were in there at all. Yeah person to person sales wouldn't be able to be tracked, but, used sales from Canon direct (refurbs) and from major distributors like B&H could quite easily be tracked so do those sales get factored in to this equation, or does it only count for NEW lenses?

And yeah, I could see this equation playing out pretty on target - 95% have only one lens... the remaining 4.999% has between 2-10 lenses!....lol... .0000000001% has more than 10 or crazy expensive super tele's

 

[SwampYankee]

no news here: "we look forward to the advent of high-resolution model of the EOS". We are all looking forward to that. This poor guy works for Canon and he is looking forward to the same thing we are. I'm looking forward to Christmas too. The only difference is I know Christmas is coming.....this year.

 

[Stu_bert]

no news here: "we look forward to the advent of high-resolution model of the EOS". We are all looking forward to that. This poor guy works for Canon and he is looking forward to the same thing we are. I'm looking forward to Christmas too. The only difference is I know Christmas is coming.....this year.

;D ;D ;D

 

[Loswr]

Because, there are survey results 4-5% of customers who bought the kit lens is that it does not use only kit lens.

Would indeed be interesting to see an accurate translation of this. Do 5% never buy another lens? If so that is an amazing stst

I could believe that easily 4-5% never buy another lens. I know people with DSLRs that bought a kit and are just fine with their kit zoom. They take pictures only once in a while such as on a trip or at some big event. It just depends on how much they get into photography.

I sincerely doubt it means 4-5% don't buy lens(es) beyond the kit. The lens + body sales milestones (100M lenses, 70M bodies) aren't consistent with that interpretation.

Unless those 4-5% are each buying multiple lenses. I mean, personally, I have purchased five different lenses than the 18-55mm lens that came with my original 450D kit. I know I'm not even remotely close to a "lens collector", as many people are.

Another thing I'd bet is, Canon only accounts for new lenses other than the kit bought. I am quite certain that more than 5% of DSLR buyers also buy other lenses, but I think there is a very significant market for used lenses. I'd be willing to bet that at least 30% of Canon DSLR owners buy another lens, and the majority of them buy one used.

Perhaps we're talking at cross purposes? The statement that, "...easily 4-5% never buy another lens," is what I doubt. The converse is that 95-96% do by additional lenses...that seems rather unlikely.

 

[jrista]

Used Market - I was wondering if those #'s were in there at all. Yeah person to person sales wouldn't be able to be tracked, but, used sales from Canon direct (refurbs) and from major distributors like B&H could quite easily be tracked so do those sales get factored in to this equation, or does it only count for NEW lenses?

I am pretty sure Canon only tracks new lens sales. I think it would be perceived as misleading if they were counting secondary sales of lenses they had already manufactured.