RGF said:john1970 said:A Canon 600 mm f4 DO would be first on my lists for wildlife photography. There were prototypes of this lens at Canon Expo 2015 in NYC so I am hoping that they release the lens in the next 12 to 18 months.
care to speculate about the price. If the IQ is close to the 600 F4 II, then the price might tip the scales at $15,000 USD. If the lens is 1.5 lbs lighter then each pound shaved off cost $2,000.
abbebus said:Why not an EF 50-105 f/2.0 L IS USM (or maybe even 1.8) with stellar optics, targeted at portrait-, wedding- and fashion- photographers. Perhaps it would also attract indoor sports shooters and street photographers.
Please Canon, think a little outside the box and present something new and innovative.
Neutral said:abbebus said:Why not an EF 50-105 f/2.0 L IS USM (or maybe even 1.8) with stellar optics, targeted at portrait-, wedding- and fashion- photographers. Perhaps it would also attract indoor sports shooters and street photographers.
Please Canon, think a little outside the box and present something new and innovative.
My dream is a new version of 24-105:
EF 24-105 F/1.8 L IS USM with the highest possible optical performance using latest Canon optical technologies so that optical quality would be even better than EF 24-70 F/2.8L USM II and also faster AF.
I would not hesitate to buy such one immediately when it becomes available
bholliman said:1. EF 50mm f/1.8 IS
2. EF 85mm f/2.0 IS
3. EF 500mm f/5.6 IS
4. EF-M 55mm f/1.8 IS
Lee Jay said:Neutral said:abbebus said:Why not an EF 50-105 f/2.0 L IS USM (or maybe even 1.8) with stellar optics, targeted at portrait-, wedding- and fashion- photographers. Perhaps it would also attract indoor sports shooters and street photographers.
Please Canon, think a little outside the box and present something new and innovative.
My dream is a new version of 24-105:
EF 24-105 F/1.8 L IS USM with the highest possible optical performance using latest Canon optical technologies so that optical quality would be even better than EF 24-70 F/2.8L USM II and also faster AF.
I would not hesitate to buy such one immediately when it becomes available
Even if it cost, say, $12k and was the size of the 400/2.8?
Neutral said:Lee Jay said:Neutral said:abbebus said:Why not an EF 50-105 f/2.0 L IS USM (or maybe even 1.8) with stellar optics, targeted at portrait-, wedding- and fashion- photographers. Perhaps it would also attract indoor sports shooters and street photographers.
Please Canon, think a little outside the box and present something new and innovative.
My dream is a new version of 24-105:
EF 24-105 F/1.8 L IS USM with the highest possible optical performance using latest Canon optical technologies so that optical quality would be even better than EF 24-70 F/2.8L USM II and also faster AF.
I would not hesitate to buy such one immediately when it becomes available
Even if it cost, say, $12k and was the size of the 400/2.8?
Why should it be the size of 400/2.8 and cost of 12k ?
Should not be significantly heavier and bigger than EF 85 f/1.2L II.
Lee Jay said:Neutral said:Lee Jay said:Neutral said:abbebus said:Why not an EF 50-105 f/2.0 L IS USM (or maybe even 1.8) with stellar optics, targeted at portrait-, wedding- and fashion- photographers. Perhaps it would also attract indoor sports shooters and street photographers.
Please Canon, think a little outside the box and present something new and innovative.
My dream is a new version of 24-105:
EF 24-105 F/1.8 L IS USM with the highest possible optical performance using latest Canon optical technologies so that optical quality would be even better than EF 24-70 F/2.8L USM II and also faster AF.
I would not hesitate to buy such one immediately when it becomes available
Even if it cost, say, $12k and was the size of the 400/2.8?
Why should it be the size of 400/2.8 and cost of 12k ?
Because it would be ENORMOUS, and very hard to make good optically.
Should not be significantly heavier and bigger than EF 85 f/1.2L II.
Wrong.
The 85/1.2 is a telephoto design. A 24-105 has to be a retrofocus design.
As yourself why a 24-105/4 has to have 77mm filter threads which is already bigger than an 85/1.2. In fact, the 24-105 at f/4 is bigger than the 85/1.2:
85/1.2: 3.6" x 3.3" 36oz 72mm threads
24-105 3.3" x 4.2" 36oz 77mm threads
Now, make it f/1.8 instead of f/4. It'll have to be at least 3/4" bigger in diameter just to accommodate the larger entrance pupil at the wide end. And it's going to have to be longer and heavier to accommodate the elements to correct it.
Let's compare to a couple things that already exist:
Sigma 18-35/1.8 for crop: 3.07 x 4.76" 28.5oz
Sigma 24-35/2 for FF: 3.4 x 4.8" 33.2oz
You're basically asking for the Sigma 24-35 to have its focal length tripled while also making it faster by half a stop and keep it about the same size. That's entirely unrealistic.
Let's do a little math:
Triple focal length = triple aperture. Cost goes up with aperture cubed: $1k becomes $9k
Half a stop faster. Cost goes up with f-stop squared: $20k
Canon multiplier compared to Sigma: 2.5 = $50k
Okay, I doubt it would be that expensive, but I'm sure it would be more than $10k, and while it probably wouldn't be the size of the 400/2.8, it would be closer to the 200/2.
Would you mind it being over $10k?Neutral said:Personally do not mind size of 200/2 for such 24-105f/1.8L IS USM lens.
OK, could agree on f/2 or even f/2.2 to make it a bit smaller and more affordable.
Even for f/2 or f/2.2 this would be very exclusive lens with no competitors on the market for very long time. Would be dream for many photographers.
Would be also less people complaining about Canon lack of innovation )
High, difficult goals and their implementations are important contributors to success.
24-105/2.8 L seems more doable ( judging by Tamron 28-105/2.8 ) although it would still be big, heavy and expensive.Lee Jay said:Would you mind it being over $10k?Neutral said:Personally do not mind size of 200/2 for such 24-105f/1.8L IS USM lens.
OK, could agree on f/2 or even f/2.2 to make it a bit smaller and more affordable.
Even for f/2 or f/2.2 this would be very exclusive lens with no competitors on the market for very long time. Would be dream for many photographers.
Would be also less people complaining about Canon lack of innovation )
High, difficult goals and their implementations are important contributors to success.
Canon once built a 24-135/2.8 IS prototype and never released it due to its enormous size and cost.