More Canon EOS 6D Specifications Talk [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

<p>There’s more Canon EOS 6D Mark II specification talk making it’s way around the web, most of it is what I would call expected.</p>
<p>First up, the camera will have DPAF and a fully functional touch and tilting LCD screen. This will be the first full frame Canon DSLR to get a tilt screen. The EOS 6D Mark II will NOT shoot 4K video, which will disappoint some, but I think most would expect it to be omitted.</p>
<p>A “new AF system” has also been mentioned, though the <a href="http://www.canonwatch.com/canon-eos-6d-mark-ii-to-feature-dual-pixel-auto-focus-dpaf-cw4/">original source</a> for the AF system rumor doesn’t know how many AF points it will have. The expected number has been 19, but we cannot confirm it.</p>
<ul>
<li>24MP or 25MP sensor (Difference between effective and actual?)</li>
<li>Dual Pixel AF</li>
<li>Dual SD card slots</li>
<li>NO 4K</li>
<li>Fully functional touch screen</li>
<li>Tilting LCD</li>
<li>New AF system</li>
<li>NFC</li>
<li>Wifi</li>
<li>GPS</li>
<li>Slightly smaller and lighter</li>
<li>Announcement expected Q1 2017 (We’ve been told it’s possible the camera will come in Q2 of 2017)</li>
</ul>
<p>The rumor mill post Photokina has been pretty quiet and what has come in has been contradictory. As such, this usually tells us nothing is on the imminent horizon and most things will be vague.</p>
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[ahsanford]

As opposed to a partially functional touch screen?

- A

 

[mxma1]

This sounds like an awesome update to an already amazing camera. Especially if they can keep the price point roughly the same ($1,899).

Given that the 4K on the 5DIV has its challenges (MJPEG, 1.7x crop, no clean HDMI 4K out), potential omission of 4K doesn't feel like a deal breaker.

Just hoping the 1080p is cleaner/sharper than the 6D. 1080p60 (hopefully) and clean 1080p HDMI out (guessing no) would be nice as well!

It already sounds like it's going to to be a terrific stills camera. The 6D already was, minus the AF system.

Thanks for the update CR!

 

[Ryananthony]

As opposed to a partially functional touch screen?

- A

Like the 5d4 rather then the 1dxii. It is my understanding that you can not review or pinch to zoom on the 1dx with touch. ONLY touch to focus and shutter release. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Pr0grammed_Reality]

No 4k, No buy. I do too much video. I will be taking this opportunity to go mirrorless when canon's full frame mirrorless comes out instead. My 6D with be my last mirrored camera.

 

[benkam]

<li>Tilting LCD</li>

The 5D4 should've had a tilting screen. As with Nikon's D750, that would've still allowed it to keep the rear button layout.

Tilting vs tilty-flippy could be argued both ways but IMO the 6D2 would be missing the selfie/self-monitor party trick if it doesn't just copy the 80D's fully articulating screen. With no buttons to the left of the current LCD, would've thought it wasn't beyond them to put a hinge there.

 

[sunnyVan]

Impossible. Expect $2500

This sounds like an awesome update to an already amazing camera. Especially if they can keep the price point roughly the same ($1,899).

Given that the 4K on the 5DIV has its challenges (MJPEG, 1.7x crop, no clean HDMI 4K out), potential omission of 4K doesn't feel like a deal breaker.

Just hoping the 1080p is cleaner/sharper than the 6D. 1080p60 (hopefully) and clean 1080p HDMI out (guessing no) would be nice as well!

It already sounds like it's going to to be a terrific stills camera. The 6D already was, minus the AF system.

Thanks for the update CR!

 

[CanonGuy]

Sounds like a good camera if they put in a good sensor like they did in 6D mk i. Please keep 4k out. People needing 4k get 5d or 1dx. Keep the price point similar or lower than original 6D and we'll have a winner.

 

[CanonGuy]

Impossible. Expect $2500

This sounds like an awesome update to an already amazing camera. Especially if they can keep the price point roughly the same ($1,899).

Given that the 4K on the 5DIV has its challenges (MJPEG, 1.7x crop, no clean HDMI 4K out), potential omission of 4K doesn't feel like a deal breaker.

Just hoping the 1080p is cleaner/sharper than the 6D. 1080p60 (hopefully) and clean 1080p HDMI out (guessing no) would be nice as well!

It already sounds like it's going to to be a terrific stills camera. The 6D already was, minus the AF system.

Thanks for the update CR!

6D for 2500 will be a super fail.

 

[jeffa4444]

The list if true is plausible except for 19AF points. The T6S / 760d has 19AF points and is way cheaper. The camera has to get 45AF points and the 7260 RGB+IR metering system to be worth either the same or higher price.
If they bring it out with 19AF points I for one would not buy it.

 

[LesC]

I'd be happy with the reported specs & would most likely upgrade my 6D but it all depends on cost. If the 5D Mk4 is anything to go by it might well be a lot more expensive that we expect/hope?

 

[Famateur]

If these rumored specs are accurate, this will be my next body.

Honestly, I just want a full-frame version of my 70D with the newest generation of sensors from Canon. I'm guessing it won't keep up with 70D frame rate of 7 FPS, and I prefer fully* articulating screen to tilt-only, but everything else will be enough for me to go for it.

Okay, to be really honest, if the 5DIV had a fully articulating touch screen, I would have figured out a way to scrimp, save and/or sell things to buy it.

* Fully articulating means it can be closed to protect it while in my bag. It also gives more flexibility in tight spaces or weird positions. Tilty would be better than fixed, but not nearly as useful as articulating...for me.

 

[Ozarker]

Impossible. Expect $2500

This sounds like an awesome update to an already amazing camera. Especially if they can keep the price point roughly the same ($1,899).

Given that the 4K on the 5DIV has its challenges (MJPEG, 1.7x crop, no clean HDMI 4K out), potential omission of 4K doesn't feel like a deal breaker.

Just hoping the 1080p is cleaner/sharper than the 6D. 1080p60 (hopefully) and clean 1080p HDMI out (guessing no) would be nice as well!

It already sounds like it's going to to be a terrific stills camera. The 6D already was, minus the AF system.

Thanks for the update CR!

For the first 6 months maybe. The 6D is $1,499 at Adorama now and includes a free battery (Body only). It released at $2,099 (Body only).

 

[ahsanford]

Impossible. Expect $2500

6D for 2500 will be a super fail.

This all depends on if it is going upmarket or not. If the 6D2 is a pure 6D1 sequel, $1,750 - $2,000 is reasonable with a better 24MP sensor + tilty-flippy + better AF. Done. I imagine cost-constrained APS-C enthusiasts with modest AF needs are hoping that this is where the 6D2 lands.

But if the 6D2 is to move upmarket and fill the $2,250 - $2,500 spot the 5D3 has in the lineup -- very good all-around but not the best best tech -- then a good number of the 'possibly' items on the list below would need to happen:

Certainly: A new FF sensor with on chip ADC
Certainly: A much better AF system
Certainly: Touchscreen
Probably: DPAF
Probably: Tilty-flippy
Probably: Small bump in fps
Possibly: Anti-flicker mode
Possibly: 2 card slots
Possibly: 1/200 flash sync
Possibly: 4K
Possibly: 1/8000 max shutter speed
Possibly: More f/8 AF points for wildlifer TC use

To me, those red 'possibly' items above (and just how powerful/effective the AF is) are what separate a pure 6D1 sequel from a middle-of-the-FF-market 5D3 replacement that might attract more pros, like some wedding photogs and photojournalists on a budget who -- potentially turned off by the 5D4 price, might be considering a D750 instead.

Either way, we shall see what they come up with.

- A

 

[9VIII]

The list if true is plausible except for 19AF points. The T6S / 760d has 19AF points and is way cheaper. The camera has to get 45AF points and the 7260 RGB+IR metering system to be worth either the same or higher price.
If they bring it out with 19AF points I for one would not buy it.

The most important thing I'm looking for in the AF sensor is more double cross type points and F8 enabled points.
What I would most like to see adopted by lower end bodies is that vertical stripe of double cross type points, so far only the 1D and 5D series has that and I feel like it would be the biggest improvement. I'm actually not dissatisfied with the center point on an average Rebel at all, and that said I feel like the outer points are mostly important for catching subjects as they enter the frame, what I really want is to make sure that center cluster is dead on.

 

[ahsanford]

The most important thing I'm looking for in the AF sensor is more double cross type points and F8 enabled points.
What I would most like to see adopted by lower end bodies is that vertical stripe of double cross type points, so far only the 1D and 5D series has that and I feel like it would be the biggest improvement. I'm actually not dissatisfied with the center point on an average Rebel at all, and that said I feel like the outer points are mostly important for catching subjects as they enter the frame, what I really want is to make sure that center cluster is dead on.

I expect a comprehensive AF upgrade -- I've heard people say 'like the 80D but for FF' and that seems about right: a clear bump over the 6D1 but no threat to the 5D4. Makes perfect sense.

How comprehensive (other than the AF point count) the AF system improvement will be remains to be seen. Canon would looooooove to see all the wildlifers in the 7D2 camp step up to FF and have to buy $$$ FF lenses for standard/wide use, but I just don't see them giving a 5D3-like AF point count or a large plurality of f/8 AF points like we've seen on the 1DX2 and 5D4.

- A

 

[Etienne]

No 4k, No buy. I do too much video. I will be taking this opportunity to go mirrorless when canon's full frame mirrorless comes out instead. My 6D with be my last mirrored camera.

Agreed .... 4K is standard video today. The Panasonic GH5 will come out with 6K, and 4K at 60p.
Withholding 4K from the 6D would look really stingy and stupid in 2017.

 

[AJ]

Dual card slots in a 6D2? Doubt it.

 

[Daan Stam]

not bad not great and that is essentially a 6d

 

[Ladislav]

I don't mind "only" 19 AF if they are nicely spread and all cross type. It will be better than "one" on 6D1.

What I don't understand is tilt screen. This camera will have limitations in video to not compete with 5d4. Tilt screen is mainly important for video, so removing video features and adding tilt screen is strange.