More New Full Frame Rumors [CR1]

[macfly]

Great, something for the enthusiasts, nothing for the pros.

 

[pedro]

yepp! @fyngyrz: plus one. we've talked about nightphotography over at dpr. and I know you'll cherish every moment to get outthere and do nightskies...so do I. hope there's more to it than a grain of salt 8)
Cheers, Pedro alias guatitamasluz

 

[Stuart]

Its not so much that Canon needs against Nikon - Sony is the ne being clever at the moment and looks to be rapidly stealing new photographer market share.

 

[Bob Howland]

Great, something for the enthusiasts, nothing for the pros.

I don't know about that. It could be aimed at wedding photographers. They seem to like the D700 and 5D2. A fairly rugged small body with focusing as good as the D700, high ISO image quality as good as the D3s, 5-6FPS, 16-21MP and DR better than anything currently available might not qualify as a "Nikon killer", but it would certainly be a worthy competitor.

 

[unfocused]

Great, something for the enthusiasts, nothing for the pros.

Don't despair, this is a CR1 rumor, and that's being generous. This is just something to get all the full-frame fantasizers excited, just like the other post on an "entry-level full frame." If a full frame camera like this were introduced, it would be delivered by Miniature Unicorns and include some free Pixie Dust.

 

[aaronofnero]

well, clearly this is evolutionary. let me wager and outrageously accurate and educated prediction.

a fanciful 5dmkIII with the following:
55MP full frame image with 28 stops of dynamic range and a noiseless ISO range from 25 to 102,400. b/w noise compression kicks in at 409,600 ISO (max). indescribable AF with 90 point recognition at all offered exposure options, of equal power and effectiveness during video. 10,000,000 exposure durability on shutter with 60 - 1/32000 second timing variables. specialty flash sync at 1/2000 of a second. 24fps burst mode at RAW. manual video control over full dynamic range and iso. incremental frame rates from 1 to 240 frames a second at 18bit 4k resolution, uncompressed 4:4:4 prores codec with built in HDR mode. rolling shutter. in-camera aperture, zoom and focus control (wireless with controller). dual CF card reader/writer supporting up to two 512GB 120mb/s cards. 3G-SDI output. thunderbolt output. complete removal of aliasing and moire issues. quarter-inch input for audio, with manual audio control and phenomenal compressor/limiter/white-noise reducer options engineered by Waves.

bunch of other neat stuff.

oh, and it comes as an option with a brand new 16-135mm f/1.2 L series lens with an entirely new motion-predictive system of IS.

they have also rumored the street name for this camera to be appropriately titled "the game changer" ...Nike is also on board for co-op marketing.

 

[LuCoOc]

well, clearly this is evolutionary. let me wager and outrageously accurate and educated prediction.

a fanciful 5dmkIII with the following:
55MP full frame image with 28 stops of dynamic range and a noiseless ISO range from 25 to 102,400. b/w noise compression kicks in at 409,600 ISO (max). indescribable AF with 90 point recognition at all offered exposure options, of equal power and effectiveness during video. 10,000,000 exposure durability on shutter with 60 - 1/32000 second timing variables. specialty flash sync at 1/2000 of a second. 24fps burst mode at RAW. manual video control over full dynamic range and iso. incremental frame rates from 1 to 240 frames a second at 18bit 4k resolution, uncompressed 4:4:4 prores codec with built in HDR mode. rolling shutter. in-camera aperture, zoom and focus control (wireless with controller). dual CF card reader/writer supporting up to two 512GB 120mb/s cards. 3G-SDI output. thunderbolt output. complete removal of aliasing and moire issues. quarter-inch input for audio, with manual audio control and phenomenal compressor/limiter/white-noise reducer options engineered by Waves.

bunch of other neat stuff.

oh, and it comes as an option with a brand new 16-135mm f/1.2 L series lens with an entirely new motion-predictive system of IS.

they have also rumored the street name for this camera to be appropriately titled "the game changer" ...Nike is also on board for co-op marketing.

wtf
wrong thread?

post it here --> http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php/topic,1645.0.html

 

[Pag]

it would be delivered by Miniature Unicorns and include some free Pixie Dust.

Now, that's a camera I'd purchase! ;D

 

[fotoray]

7D + FF @21MP + DR + ISO + Better In Camera Image Processing + Less noise all across the board + Top Video = Nikon Killer?

I like it, except could do without a video upgrade.

 

[fotoray]

well, clearly this is evolutionary. let me wager and outrageously accurate and educated prediction.

a fanciful 5dmkIII with the following:
55MP full frame image with 28 stops of dynamic range and a noiseless ISO range from 25 to 102,400. b/w noise compression kicks in at 409,600 ISO (max). indescribable AF with 90 point recognition at all offered exposure options, of equal power and effectiveness during video. 10,000,000 exposure durability on shutter with 60 - 1/32000 second timing variables. specialty flash sync at 1/2000 of a second. 24fps burst mode at RAW. manual video control over full dynamic range and iso. incremental frame rates from 1 to 240 frames a second at 18bit 4k resolution, uncompressed 4:4:4 prores codec with built in HDR mode. rolling shutter. in-camera aperture, zoom and focus control (wireless with controller). dual CF card reader/writer supporting up to two 512GB 120mb/s cards. 3G-SDI output. thunderbolt output. complete removal of aliasing and moire issues. quarter-inch input for audio, with manual audio control and phenomenal compressor/limiter/white-noise reducer options engineered by Waves.

bunch of other neat stuff.

oh, and it comes as an option with a brand new 16-135mm f/1.2 L series lens with an entirely new motion-predictive system of IS.

they have also rumored the street name for this camera to be appropriately titled "the game changer" ...Nike is also on board for co-op marketing.

PRICE = $50,000

 

[Shnookums]

internally as a “Nikon-killer”

Killing what? Nikon? The whole Nikon feature set? So... This next camera would be...

16bit, Nikon does 14
+12fps, Nikon does 11
+25mp, Nikon does 24
+52 AF point, Nikon does 51
+3 CF card, Nikon has 2
support EF, EF-S and maybe FD, Nikon does support old and new lens,
popup flash with wireless flash trigger, another thing Nikon does,
4D AdobeRGB color metering, Nikon has only 3D RGB,

What does it take for a Canon camera to beat Nikon? Which feature will Canon kill?

My point is that the "Nikon-Killer" name doesn't make sense... A D3s killer or D700 killer would make more sense but the whole Nikon brand killing thing doesn't.

Whatever Canon is coming with next will beat Nikon on most feature but even Canon has to choose what to attack hehe

 

[jeremymerriam]

Great, something for the enthusiasts, nothing for the pros.

speak for yourself. I am a pro and i still shoot with the 12.8 MP 5D. I am holding off until canon either makes a camera with better dynamic range or the price of medium format backs on the lower Megapixel go down. the megapixel war is useless for my needs

 

[JerryFish]

I would absolutely by this camera. Most people this camera would be targeted at (non pros) dont need the high pixel count required for large prints (18+ is plenty). A shift in bettering IQ, DR and low light is the way canon should go. Obviously if canon is trying to create a low light D3s rival, theyre going to need better AF... what's the point of a capable low light sensor if you cant lock focus?

 

[michsyw]

Oh wow, 3 years to put a FF sensor into 7D body? yes, 7D with FF is nikon killer to me, period. Maybe throw in the articulate screen or what not, but thats not important.

 

[matai]

This is very exciting to me, I'm currently on a Panasonic G3 which is a great little camera. However full-frame has been calling to me as landscapes and nature photography is my thing.

What price range do you all think this will be? $1500-$2000?

I would basically be happy with a Digital Rebel with a full-frame sensor right now, can't wait to hear more about this!

 

[aaronofnero]

well, clearly this is evolutionary. let me wager and outrageously accurate and educated prediction.

a fanciful 5dmkIII with the following:
55MP full frame image with 28 stops of dynamic range and a noiseless ISO range from 25 to 102,400. b/w noise compression kicks in at 409,600 ISO (max). indescribable AF with 90 point recognition at all offered exposure options, of equal power and effectiveness during video. 10,000,000 exposure durability on shutter with 60 - 1/32000 second timing variables. specialty flash sync at 1/2000 of a second. 24fps burst mode at RAW. manual video control over full dynamic range and iso. incremental frame rates from 1 to 240 frames a second at 18bit 4k resolution, uncompressed 4:4:4 prores codec with built in HDR mode. rolling shutter. in-camera aperture, zoom and focus control (wireless with controller). dual CF card reader/writer supporting up to two 512GB 120mb/s cards. 3G-SDI output. thunderbolt output. complete removal of aliasing and moire issues. quarter-inch input for audio, with manual audio control and phenomenal compressor/limiter/white-noise reducer options engineered by Waves.

bunch of other neat stuff.

oh, and it comes as an option with a brand new 16-135mm f/1.2 L series lens with an entirely new motion-predictive system of IS.

they have also rumored the street name for this camera to be appropriately titled "the game changer" ...Nike is also on board for co-op marketing.

wtf
wrong thread?

post it here --> http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php/topic,1645.0.html

haha it was a bit of sarcasm to the taste of the title "nikon killer" ....all of which i mentioned is beyond a wishlist.. more so potentially unlikely, as it would rival most cameras 30k+ and would be excessively advanced technologically

 

[Shnookums]

speak for yourself. I am a pro and i still shoot with the 12.8 MP 5D. I am holding off until canon either makes a camera with better dynamic range or the price of medium format backs on the lower Megapixel go down. the megapixel war is useless for my needs

Mega-pixel are not everything you are right. My1DII has only 8.2mp and it still works great. But, I'm sure that the 1DIV has better dynamic range, even if it has more mega-pixel... Would a camera produced today with 8mp have a better dynamic range than the current 1DIV?... Probably. Then again, nearly 8 years after I bought my 1DII, I wouldnt buy a 8mp camera now... The difference between 21 and 8 is huge!

 

[djw]

well, clearly this is evolutionary. let me wager and outrageously accurate and educated prediction.

a fanciful 5dmkIII with the following:
55MP full frame image with 28 stops of dynamic range and a noiseless ISO range from 25 to 102,400. b/w noise compression kicks in at 409,600 ISO (max). indescribable AF with 90 point recognition at all offered exposure options, of equal power and effectiveness during video. 10,000,000 exposure durability on shutter with 60 - 1/32000 second timing variables. specialty flash sync at 1/2000 of a second. 24fps burst mode at RAW. manual video control over full dynamic range and iso. incremental frame rates from 1 to 240 frames a second at 18bit 4k resolution, uncompressed 4:4:4 prores codec with built in HDR mode. rolling shutter. in-camera aperture, zoom and focus control (wireless with controller). dual CF card reader/writer supporting up to two 512GB 120mb/s cards. 3G-SDI output. thunderbolt output. complete removal of aliasing and moire issues. quarter-inch input for audio, with manual audio control and phenomenal compressor/limiter/white-noise reducer options engineered by Waves.

bunch of other neat stuff.

oh, and it comes as an option with a brand new 16-135mm f/1.2 L series lens with an entirely new motion-predictive system of IS.

they have also rumored the street name for this camera to be appropriately titled "the game changer" ...Nike is also on board for co-op marketing.

Cool! Send this in via email and your comment is now a rumour ;-)

 

[V8Beast]

An entry-level, lower megapixel (whatever that means) camera sounds interesting, but how would you market such a machine? With many, if not most, people looking to step up from a point-and-shoot to an SLR, all they care about is megapixels. To them, image quality and megapixel count is one in the same. You have to be somewhat committed to techno geekery to even know or care about stuff like ISO and dynamic range. I can't see how you'd convince people like that to spend substantially more money than a Rebel on this rumored full-frame, "lower mp" body when they don't even know the difference between crop sensors and FF sensors.

 

[Rocky]

An entry-level, lower megapixel (whatever that means) camera sounds interesting, but how would you market such a machine? With many, if not most, people looking to step up from a point-and-shoot to an SLR, all they care about is megapixels. To them, image quality and megapixel count is one in the same. You have to be somewhat committed to techno geekery to even know or care about stuff like ISO and dynamic range. I can't see how you'd convince people like that to spend substantially more money than a Rebel on this rumored full-frame, "lower mp" body when they don't even know the difference between crop sensors and FF sensors.

Most people upgrading from P &S do have some idea about, ISO, MP sensor size etc. Also most of people can tell the picture from a P &S from a APS_C, let alone FF.We should not assume that they are that naive. Also Canon can always educate people in their advertisement and literatures.