Multilayer Sensors are Coming From Canon [CR2]

[Canon Rumors]

<p>Canon has been hard at work on multi-layer sensors and they will be coming in an upcoming professional level full frame DSLR we’re told. There will be two cameras based on this technology coming in 2015, one would expect a replacement for the EOS-1D X and perhaps another professional body with a high megapixel count. There was no mention of an EOS 5D Mark IV.</p>
<p>The high resolution camera is expected to be announced in Q1 of 2015. Even though we have heard from places unknown that such a camera would make an appearance at PhotoPlus at the end of this month. A Canon Explorer of Light has told us they’ve been promised a high megapixel camera to come “sooner than later”.</p>
<p>I suspect most of this came from Photokina chatter.</p>
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[Maximilian]

Sounds reasonable!

Especially the part with the 5D4.
Some one to two years until that tech trickles down to the semi pro bodies.

Now let's hope that it comes true within a short time and that we'll see some real good IQ improvements on this.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

Hopefully it will be worth the wait. (although the wait for a 5D4 sounds perhaps longer, but if this tech delivers, then at least it would be jsut a Sony to tie things over for now instead of a full out switch to Nikon/Sony mix).

 

[Hannes]

It would certainly go some way to explain the lack of fundamental updates in the canon sensors other than DPAF obviously. Very interesting though.

 

[Dylan777]

Brings it on

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

From what I know the Sigma Foveon sensor, we will see major improvements in color depth. This could be the true replacement of 1DS Mark iii.

Does anyone know how good (or bad) is the DR in low ISO of Sigma Foveon sensors?

 

[zim]

and straight to a CR2, this does seem very plausible. I do hope one of those top end cameras is the high MP camera and they leave the 5 series at around 24 though, if that's even how you measure these things with a multilayer sensor ?

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Those Canon patents are supposed to be a improvement over the Foveon weaknesses, but the big benefit is accurate and better colors.


It might be interesting to see what happens. Canon is very conservative, so we do not see new technology until its been tested pretty well. Even so, there are always issues when you get tens of thousands using it.


http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/07/patent-another-multi-layer-related-sensor-patent-from-canon/

http://thenewcamera.com/canon-patent-news-three-layer-sensor-from-canon/

 

[Drizzt321]

and straight to a CR2, this does seem very plausible. I do hope one of those top end cameras is the high MP camera and they leave the 5 series at around 24 though, if that's even how you measure these things with a multilayer sensor ?

Yea, with a CR2 I'm a lot more hopeful that it'll actually happen. Still not there yet, but IMHO a lot better than a CR1, which means he's got some reason to trust the source.

 

[lintoni]

Those Canon patents are supposed to be a improvement over the Foveon weaknesses, but the big benefit is accurate and better colors.


It might be interesting to see what happens. Canon is very conservative, so we do not see new technology until its been tested pretty well. Even so, there are always issues when you get tens of thousands using it.


http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/07/patent-another-multi-layer-related-sensor-patent-from-canon/

http://thenewcamera.com/canon-patent-news-three-layer-sensor-from-canon/

Another one:

http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/06/patent-canon-5-layer-uv-ir-rgb-sensor/

 

[scottkinfw]

New sensors have to be coming sooner or later. The questions I have are what improvements will we see, when will we see them, and what camera bodies will they come in. I'm ready for a new camera by next spring/summer, if it is the right fit. Come on Canon, hit one out of the park for us.

Sek

 

[hoodlum]

I don't expect this sensor to be used in a high speed body due to the low sensor read-out speed of a stacked sensor. That would also explain why the 7Dii was just replaced with existing sensor tech. I could see a totally new body announced as a niche for landscape or other areas that require greater detail without the need for high FPS. Video would also not work very well with this sensor due to the low read-out speed.

 

[msm]

Hope it is true this time.

 

[KAS]

Well, put me on the pre-order list for 1Ds replacements for next spring! This might be a great way to start the new year.

 

[jrista]

I'm curious if this new layered sensor is the one that uses UV and IR layers to remove skin blemishes. If so, is this next Canon DSLR a replacement for the 1Ds, a studio and portrait camera?

 

[daniela]

Actual rumored in Japan: Next high end body will be a superb successor. No mention about which body it is. Clear seems to be, that this sensor technology enters in Canons high end line. A definitively clear plus will be added on the current price.
The rumored detailed specifications are still not really believable. They think that there are 2-3 bodies mixed up: 22-50MP, 8-20fps, clear iso up to 51000, AF speed halved, better battery ... The 1DX successor is rumored around 20MP.
But: No Canon fanboy knows exactly what will be inside.
Before the Photokina, Japenese forums rumored 24MP and 10fps and clear pictures at 6400ISO for the 7DII.

 

[V8Beast]

Other than more accurate color, what are the fundamental benefits of a multi-layer sensor?

IMHO, as great as the 1DX may be, Canon could definitely benefit from a true studio/landscape-oriented 1Ds3 successor. The whole "merging of the 1D and 1Ds" line is pure marketing non-sense. Nikon dropped a full-frame sensor into their sports body, so Canon had to follow suit. It's as simple as that. The 1DX is essentially a full-frame replacement for the 1D4.

I know lots of pros still shooting with 1Ds3 bodies. Maybe a real studio/landscape camera will give them reason to finally upgrade.

 

[danski0224]

I suppose that "multi layer" doesn't necessarily mean Foveon, but I'd really like to see a "mainstream" Foveon sensor in a Canon dSLR body.

 

[Maui5150]

The big question... When does Canon take on the Camera Phone market. Clearly if the 1Dxs can make phone calls, play games, and text.., then they will have a real winner on their hands

 

[Maiaibing]

Hmmm. Getting a high MP camera next year one way or the other. Great if Canon finally can deliver visible progress on the sensor side. Would much prefer a Canon but their pro models are too big for me - so this may be bad "news". Have my eyes set on a worthy 5DIV. Remain hopeful that Canon will come with some announcement before end of year.