NEW CAMERA - EOS 80D?

[AnthonyWithNoH]

Looks like a rebel update. Definitely not a full frame cameras as it is using a ef-s lens and even if it had a sensor crop ef-s won't attach to ef! I'd say it's a rebel update based on the buttons, the jog wheel looks like a downgrade from what I'm use to on the 60d and the buttons look like a minor upgrade from the rebels. Also, this kind of tech seems to always hit the lowest end cameras first.

 

[wsheldon]

That's a Rebel based on the switches and physical size. NFC is a very "consumer friendly" feature, which also indicates Rebel. Just look at the WiFi feature of both my cameras - 6D and 70D. They don't transfer full size image over WiFi, just resized JPEGs, which is very consumerish. I use it occasionally for a quick publish to the web, but I prefer to tweak the RAW files first. NFC is made for consumers, not professionals or enthusiasts like myself.

Sorry, but I strongly disagree that WiFi is "consumerish", plus you are confusing the WiFi capabilities of the camera with those of the *very* limited EOS App. You certainly can transmit raw files and full-quality JPEGs over Wifi using the EOS Utility from a laptop (via the Canon WFT utility), or using 3rd party iOS/Android apps like ShutterSnitch.

In my experience, WiFi in DSLRs is being quickly embraced by portrait, event and wedding shooters, as well as people setting up commercial photo booths. I'd have a hard time moving from the 6D to another camera without that feature. Shooting raw+JPEG on camera and having the JPEGs stream to an iPad in real time during a portrait shoot to show to the subject is a real game changer, IMO.

There's less you can currently do with NFC, but I'm sure serious photographers will find a use for that tech in time as well. I'm not arguing that every possible piece of tech needs to be shoe-horned into every DSLR, but Canon would be foolish to ignore the growing expectations of amateurs and pros alike when it comes to device-to-device communication.

 

[Mr_Canuck]

I think I'm going to sit and stare at it for quite a really long time... until it comes to me. Oh wait, it did already.

 

[vscd]

I also think that the time of a splitted Rebel / 80D Line could be over. With the new SL1 and the xxD xxxD and xxxxD Line we nearly have 3 or 4 Lines of APS-C Cams, plus one Line for Professional use (7D Mark 2). As the 7D Mark 2 went up on the line with a quite good body I think the Rebelline will merged together with the semiprofessional 70D/80D.

The lower cost models will be kept at 4 digits. After an imagenery 90D there is no number left, anyway And the next would be... hey, Rebel line Number (at least in Europe)

 

[Khufu]

Where the frick is the low res image showing its left side sourced from? I've watched a few promos on YT and can't find that frame at all... Was hoping to spy a 720/1080p glimpse of the mode dial et al!

 

[9VIII]

You won't see a replacement for the 70D this year. This is the year of the full frame cameras...

Funny you should mention that, I'm fairly certain the 80D will be full frame.

But now does seem a little soon for the introduction of the first budget full frame body.
The T6i fits best.

 

[Khufu]

Current thoughts:
It has the XXXD buttons, so likely none in front of the top LCD. (WB, Drive etc)
I think that's a small (square?) LCD on top, considering where the "hump" is likely to start.
This is totally Canon's first mirrorless/EVF camera!... if not hybrid-VF, however one of those is meant to exist.

 

[crashpc]

From images posted it seems that there are buttons i front of this small display. The camera body seems to have optical viewfinder, but it might be hybrid.

Anyway it doesn't make sense to rehash 70D in any way, except with merging some product lines into just one. 70D people will get 7D II cheaper soon if they still want to upgrade with APS-C, and XXXD people will get new cheaper rehash of 70D. I believe there will be only three products in APS-C line. New mirrorless for 100D and M people, this one for XXXD people, and 7D II. No more APS-C bodies.

 

[Khufu]

Aye, it'll have an ISO button (as is now standard) and perhaps an LCD illumination button plus the usual dial, but the D Pad covers the other controls in the same way the Rebel and M cameras do (hence the drive, WB, etc graphics.) I've not noticed anyone point this out yet, though can't recall if I read all 7 pages of comments last night - but to me this is an obvious indication of control layout and functionality placing it much more in line with Rebels than the 70D.
Looks a lot to me like a "flagship rebel" or its own new thing, disregarding what is "meant to go with" XXD, XXXD lines... - and I think it might just be that rumoured EVF/Hybrid model! Maybe they'll call it an 8D or 9D...

Otherwise, I think it's simply a 700D successor with a few new (old) bells and whistles!

New thoughts on the top LCD:
- It's possible that they've simply run out of display real-estate or felt it's all gotten a bit crowded with all these newer features wanting to let us know they're on or what they're up to on the back screen...
- it's also possible that it's there to save on battery power instead of constantly illuminating the back panel on an otherwise high-drain camera (ie. EVF)

 

[DRR]

Based on the back of the "new" camera and the back of the existing 70D I'm going to say it's an 80D, or a new xxxD/xxD merged camera.

It doesn't make sense to me that it's a new xxxD camera based on the similarities with the existing 70D. Having said that, removing the back button focus option pushes it downmarket. So I can easily see them merging the two lines into a "Super Rebel" line as has been suggested; keeping 7D line for premium APS-C and FF is another story. It does not look big enough to be a FF camera, at least by Canon standards.

 

[slclick]

Designing a FF body with XXXD style buttons .....well, Canon has learned their lesson from the EOS 5 (film body, kids), So you can enjoy all this kookoo conjecture all you want.Not happening.

 

[MYB]

I'm not sure but i think the lens on camera is 18-135mm STM. It must be a crop body. 7D Mark II buttons are like 5D Mark III. Probably same with xxxD, top lcd like xxD.

 

[obiyan19]

yes, it is an ef-s lens,we can see it clearly at 0:46 on the front of the lens



and it seems no one see it, we can see another part of the mysterious body at 0:44

 

[Tugela]

yes, it is an ef-s lens,we can see it clearly at 0:46 on the front of the lens



and it seems no one see it, we can see another part of the mysterious body at 0:44

The camera is likely a mildly updated 70D. You can see the reason in the text on the bottom of the second picture.

That new CS100 box of theirs is targeted to the consumer market so people can show their pictures on their TV sets. The top end consumer cameras are the 5Ti and 70D, so those will be updated in 2015 to be compatible with the CS100. So, it is pretty clearly a new 70D, probably it will be called an 80D but be largely similar to the previous model in specs.

 

[Khufu]

Have any of you guys/gals who suggest this is the 80D ever actually worked with the XXD series and above? This thing clearly has the controls of a Rebel/XXXD and below camera with the simple addition of a small LCD and an EOS M style wheel.

The loss of the third thumb-button, loss of the video/LV switch around the LV button, loss of the D-Pad to facilitate the Rebel style controls within the wheel/circle where they always sit on Rebels... this thing is a Carbon Copy of the 700D with a small screen and wheel added - outside of some kind of wishful thinking I'm struggling to see how anyone familiar with a 70D or its predecessors could believe this is coming in as a replacement.

I'm quite confident this is the 750/800D, the more I look at it!

 

[slclick]

Canon might just be screwing with us here. Someone grabbed a prototype off a bench and included it in the shoot for the ricockulous backup device. Many a chuckle at HQ.

 

[Tugela]

Have any of you guys/gals who suggest this is the 80D ever actually worked with the XXD series and above? This thing clearly has the controls of a Rebel/XXXD and below camera with the simple addition of a small LCD and an EOS M style wheel.

The loss of the third thumb-button, loss of the video/LV switch around the LV button, loss of the D-Pad to facilitate the Rebel style controls within the wheel/circle where they always sit on Rebels... this thing is a Carbon Copy of the 700D with a small screen and wheel added - outside of some kind of wishful thinking I'm struggling to see how anyone familiar with a 70D or its predecessors could believe this is coming in as a replacement.

I'm quite confident this is the 750/800D, the more I look at it!

It looks more like a carbon copy of the 70D with a few minor changes.

Not that it really matters, if the T5i was upgraded, it would likely get the same internals as the 70D anyway (to ensure that Canon remains suitably far behind their competitors), and that camera would essentially become obsolete.

 

[Khufu]

Have any of you guys/gals who suggest this is the 80D ever actually worked with the XXD series and above? This thing clearly has the controls of a Rebel/XXXD and below camera with the simple addition of a small LCD and an EOS M style wheel.

The loss of the third thumb-button, loss of the video/LV switch around the LV button, loss of the D-Pad to facilitate the Rebel style controls within the wheel/circle where they always sit on Rebels... this thing is a Carbon Copy of the 700D with a small screen and wheel added - outside of some kind of wishful thinking I'm struggling to see how anyone familiar with a 70D or its predecessors could believe this is coming in as a replacement.

I'm quite confident this is the 750/800D, the more I look at it!

It looks more like a carbon copy of the 70D with a few minor changes.

So that's a 'no' to my initial question then? :

 

[preppyak]

Funny you should mention that, I'm fairly certain the 80D will be full frame.

If its full-frame, it will take on a different name. 8D or so. Otherwise they'd have made the 6D have an xxD name.

The camera in question looks exactly like a 60D shell without the AF-on button. So it'd make sense if the T6i is getting upgraded with a nicer body, the 70D sensor, but somewhat crippled specs (maybe 19pt AF, but, only 4fps and no AFMA). And they are saving money by just reusing the 60D body for that.

Would leave the SL2 (or whatever) to be the smaller entry level camera

 

[Tugela]

Have any of you guys/gals who suggest this is the 80D ever actually worked with the XXD series and above? This thing clearly has the controls of a Rebel/XXXD and below camera with the simple addition of a small LCD and an EOS M style wheel.

The loss of the third thumb-button, loss of the video/LV switch around the LV button, loss of the D-Pad to facilitate the Rebel style controls within the wheel/circle where they always sit on Rebels... this thing is a Carbon Copy of the 700D with a small screen and wheel added - outside of some kind of wishful thinking I'm struggling to see how anyone familiar with a 70D or its predecessors could believe this is coming in as a replacement.

I'm quite confident this is the 750/800D, the more I look at it!

It looks more like a carbon copy of the 70D with a few minor changes.

So that's a 'no' to my initial question then? :

So, that means you didn't look at the back of the cameras then.