NEW CAMERA - EOS 80D?

AmselAdans said:
Marsu42 said:
Edit: Did some posts about giving improper credits just get lost? I wanted to comment on them, stating that I disagree - but now I cannot find it anymore. Strange.
Also noticed that. Maybe too meta for this thread or too offending.
They got lost but also CR modified the article and their credits.
So I think the critic was accepted and they decided that the posts got obsolete.
 
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AmselAdans said:
Marsu42 said:
Edit: Did some posts about giving improper credits just get lost? I wanted to comment on them, stating that I disagree - but now I cannot find it anymore. Strange.
Also noticed that. Maybe too meta for this thread or too offending.

I'm fine with criticism. The only thing I find offensive is when the person being critical hides behind a new account sign-up (they used a domain owned by Crime Stoppers to create a new email address) and doesn't have the maturity to email me directly or pick up a phone, which is freely available on this site.

Almost every site I know has credited me as "cr", which is totally fine. I have open communication with a lot of sites, including PetaPixel and they have never had an issue with "PP". I think the habit of site name acronyms came from the days of using text links for SEO and the "nofollow" stuff, which doesn't apply anymore.

As I have said a thousand times in the past, if you have an issue with anything on the site, please communicate directly to me, and don't hijack a discussion (which I'm doing right now.... I know!).
 
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AmselAdans said:
So my guess: EOS 750D, top features: 70D sensor, swivel screen, top LCD, WiFi and NFC. That's it.
(booooring)
Far from it (IMHO). Additionally you forgot to mention the thumb wheel. :D
Togehter with some nice software features (adjustable AF drive speed as in 7DII, higher quality video, ...) and a little smaller/lighter form factor compared to the 700D I have to say I'd really go for such a 750D. :-*
 
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Canon Rumors said:
AmselAdans said:
Marsu42 said:
Edit: Did some posts about giving improper credits just get lost? I wanted to comment on them, stating that I disagree - but now I cannot find it anymore. Strange.
Also noticed that. Maybe too meta for this thread or too offending.
I'm fine with criticism. The only thing I find offensive is when the person being critical hides behind a new account sign-up (they used a domain owned by Crime Stoppers to create a new email address) and doesn't have the maturity to email me directly or pick up a phone, which is freely available on this site.

+1, this is exactly what I'd have written if the post had been still in place - the rant was clearly over the top esp. as it's coming from a newly registered account and not from a regular participant.

Plus giving "proper" credit for a *rumor* is something else than an academic paper, this type of information is supposed to be spread around the net. What makes CR a good site is picking these up and providing a great forum for discussions for all kinds of photography issues.

Last not least, there's a very competent "invisible" moderation here, which imho generates a general relaxed and helpful mood as people don't feel "censored" or actively "moderated". That's the reason why I asked about the missing post in the thread that many people are bound to have read - thanks for the explanation!
 
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Canon Rumors said:
AmselAdans said:
Marsu42 said:
Edit: Did some posts about giving improper credits just get lost? I wanted to comment on them, stating that I disagree - but now I cannot find it anymore. Strange.
Also noticed that. Maybe too meta for this thread or too offending.

I'm fine with criticism. The only thing I find offensive is when the person being critical hides behind a new account sign-up (they used a domain owned by Crime Stoppers to create a new email address) and doesn't have the maturity to email me directly or pick up a phone, which is freely available on this site.

Almost every site I know has credited me as "cr", which is totally fine. I have open communication with a lot of sites, including PetaPixel and they have never had an issue with "PP". I think the habit of site name acronyms came from the days of using text links for SEO and the "nofollow" stuff, which doesn't apply anymore.

As I have said a thousand times in the past, if you have an issue with anything on the site, please communicate directly to me, and don't hijack a discussion (which I'm doing right now.... I know!).

Hey, I was the first to post a new topic about this (canon new 750D/80D), and altough im 22y old and i watch canon rumors a long time, i didnt knew how to make a good topic started!

But I gave proper credit to Petapixel (wich i didnt knew was PP)

The guy that was criticizing started talking about CR and the ADMIN, and I couldnt let that pass like that!

ADMIN - you are awesome, keep the good job!
 
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krash said:
Hey, I was the first to post a new topic about this (canon new 750D/80D), and altough im 22y old and i watch canon rumors a long time, i didnt knew how to make a good topic started!

But I gave proper credit to Petapixel (wich i didnt knew was PP)

The guy that was criticizing started talking about CR and the ADMIN, and I couldnt let that pass like that!

ADMIN - you are awesome, keep the good job!

I didn't notice the twitter account that was sourced as well, that has been corrected.

Thanks guys, 99% of people are completely reasonable!
 
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Canon Rumors said:
As I have said a thousand times in the past, if you have an issue with anything on the site, please communicate directly to me, and don't hijack a discussion (which I'm doing right now.... I know!).
Thanks, Craig, for that fast and open response.
And this was worth "hijacking".
 
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Definitely either the long overdue 750D or perhaps the SL1 MkII - I suspect the former though. Pushed upmarket with a spinning dial like the EOS-M, sensor from 70D, small top LCD to give it a more semi-pro look, plus adds cheap near field wireless to the entry level range of DSLR's.

Move along, nothing exciting to see here
 
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That's a Rebel based on the switches and physical size. NFC is a very "consumer friendly" feature, which also indicates Rebel. Just look at the WiFi feature of both my cameras - 6D and 70D. They don't transfer full size image over WiFi, just resized JPEGs, which is very consumerish. I use it occasionally for a quick publish to the web, but I prefer to tweak the RAW files first. NFC is made for consumers, not professionals or enthusiasts like myself.

You won't see a replacement for the 70D this year. This is the year of the full frame - 5D replacements(s), 6D replacement and maybe a 1D replacement. I'm sure the Rebel team inside of Canon is seperate and they kick out a new model pretty much every year like the P&S cameras. It's a rebel. T6i is my bet.
 
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The 50D turned into the 60D, which was described as the "Super Rebel" as build quality and size decreased. The camera was a bit of a bust and the 70D corrected that by moving upmarket.

I suspect Canon is moving the Rebel back into that "Super Rebel" slot.

A part of me is wondering if the xxD line is nearing its end.
 
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Absolutely agree on that. They´ll propably merge this XXD and XXXD line into single product line to free some space for new/modern product lines as 100D or mirrorless. Hope this rebel will stay with price, boasting more features, 6-7FPS, at least this 20Mpx sensor, and so on.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
The 50D turned into the 60D, which was described as the "Super Rebel" as build quality and size decreased. The camera was a bit of a bust and the 70D corrected that by moving upmarket.

I suspect Canon is moving the Rebel back into that "Super Rebel" slot.

A part of me is wondering if the xxD line is nearing its end.

I don't know about that. I think the 70D did quite well and Canon needs to keep a middle line to encourage people to step up to the next level without having to shell out for a 5DIV. I'm one of those people. I was a film photographer years ago (Minolta XD-7 with f1.2 50mm and a drive unit) but I let go of my camera and consigned myself to P&S cameras and phones for years. I started back with a T4i which I traded up a year later for the 70D and added a 6D a year after that. I'm falling deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole and am hoping to get either the 6D or 5D replacement this year. If my choice was to upgrade from the T4i to the 5DIII, I might now have done it. A middle range encourages growth.
 
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Canon Rumors said:
The 50D turned into the 60D, which was described as the "Super Rebel" as build quality and size decreased. The camera was a bit of a bust and the 70D corrected that by moving upmarket.

I suspect Canon is moving the Rebel back into that "Super Rebel" slot.

A part of me is wondering if the xxD line is nearing its end.

The 70D moved upmarket in terms of capabilities but not in terms of price.

I think you need to have something between a $600 Rebel (body only) and an $1,800 7D Mark II (body only). Whether they call than a Rebel or an xxD makes little difference, but if you do call it a Rebel, then something has to fill in the low-end. Maybe they think that's the SL1.
 
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Lee Jay said:
The 70D moved upmarket in terms of capabilities but not in terms of price.

I don't know about that, imho the 70d stayed in the same market segment, but the technology simply evolved.

Actually, if it's really a new rebel with the 70d sensor in the promo shot, you might say the 70d moved "downmarket" as there might not be much space left in between them except the camera size and sturdiness... which is the reason why Craig suspected Canon could dump the xxd line altogether.

Personally, I think they'll continue to sell the xxd as it's the jumping point for aspiring photogs to more expensive (ff) cameras. A Rebel simply doesn't have the same level of usability, and an entry-level 6d might be still too expensive for some.

bf said:
How about a smaller FF DSLR? a 6d sensor in 70D like body.

With a mirrored camera (prism & mirror size depends on sensor size in these designs) you can only go so small, and if you look at a 6d there's really not much space left to cut and it's already 70d-ish. Anything smaller would also severely impede the usability (grip size, button placement).
 
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