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<strong>PhotoPlus 2012


</strong>Lots of talk about Canon making some announcements this week for PhotoPlus in New York City. However, there is no evidence that media invites have been sent out around the globe.</p>
<p>Could there be an “in development” announcement that doesn’t require media invites?</p>
<p>It’s possible, although Canon has always tied those in with other product launches.</p>
<p>I’ve also heard through the grapevine that Canon USA wasn’t all too happy with the <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/10/canon-eos-3d-outed-by-bh-photo-cr0/" target="_blank">purported Photoshop’d EOS-3 with a 46.1mp sensor</a> articles that popped up not too long ago. That in itself is quite interesting, as why would they care about something that isn’t real?</p>
<p>It has also been suggested Canon still has 3-4 lenses still to announce in 2012. As usual though, there is no know timeline.</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>
 
Canon Rumors said:
I’ve also heard through the grapevine that Canon USA wasn’t all too happy with the purported Photoshop’d EOS-3 with a 46.1mp sensor articles that popped up not too long ago. That in itself is quite interesting, as why would they care about something that isn’t real?

Possibly because they're marketing machine is trying to convince the user base that 20MP class cameras are enough for everyone's needs?
 
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traveller said:
Possibly because they're marketing machine is trying to convince the user base that 20MP class cameras are enough for everyone's needs?
My thoughts exactly. They just released some new camera bodies this year. Having people hold off on purchases (like I am) because there's potentially a more suitable camera just around the corner does not help their sales.
 
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traveller said:
Canon Rumors said:
I’ve also heard through the grapevine that Canon USA wasn’t all too happy with the purported Photoshop’d EOS-3 with a 46.1mp sensor articles that popped up not too long ago. That in itself is quite interesting, as why would they care about something that isn’t real?
Possibly because they're marketing machine is trying to convince the user base that 20MP class cameras are enough for everyone's needs?

This and if Canon users are expecting a higher mp enthusiast camera anytime soon, they might be very disappointed when they realize that it's a $9k 1d-body and it'll take years to trickle down the tech into more affordable regions.

If Canon would say "More than 22mp in a consumer body be until the 5d mk4" then some people are bound to abandon ship and go Nikon.
 
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traveller said:
Canon Rumors said:
I’ve also heard through the grapevine that Canon USA wasn’t all too happy with the purported Photoshop’d EOS-3 with a 46.1mp sensor articles that popped up not too long ago. That in itself is quite interesting, as why would they care about something that isn’t real?

Possibly because they're marketing machine is trying to convince the user base that 20MP class cameras are enough for everyone's needs?
and prssibaly trying to convince that it is ok to use mediocre sensor also.
 
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Marsu42 said:
traveller said:
Canon Rumors said:
I’ve also heard through the grapevine that Canon USA wasn’t all too happy with the purported Photoshop’d EOS-3 with a 46.1mp sensor articles that popped up not too long ago. That in itself is quite interesting, as why would they care about something that isn’t real?
Possibly because they're marketing machine is trying to convince the user base that 20MP class cameras are enough for everyone's needs?

This and if Canon users are expecting a higher mp enthusiast camera anytime soon, they might be very disappointed when they realize that it's a $9k 1d-body and it'll take years to trickle down the tech into more affordable regions.

If Canon would say "More than 22mp in a consumer body be until the 5d mk4" then some people are bound to abandon ship and go Nikon.

Or get a 5D3 and sit it out because they can be sure it won't be obsoleted (by Canon) too soon?
 
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caruser said:
Or get a 5D3 and sit it out because they can be sure it won't be obsoleted (by Canon) too soon?

Yes, but probably for the sole reason that they won't want to alienate their enthusiast customers (pros' investments are even more protected, while cheap customers will see the next Rebel release just when they bought their supposedly latest morel).

There is be a bunch of things to be improved on the 5d3 even apart from the sensor - but maybe Canon opted to leave some things out to be able to put it into the 5d4 (in 2014?).
 
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Marsu42 said:
caruser said:
Or get a 5D3 and sit it out because they can be sure it won't be obsoleted (by Canon) too soon?

Yes, but probably for the sole reason that they won't want to alienate their enthusiast customers (pros' investments are even more protected, while cheap customers will see the next Rebel release just when they bought their supposedly latest morel).

There is be a bunch of things to be improved on the 5d3 even apart from the sensor - but maybe Canon opted to leave some things out to be able to put it into the 5d4 (in 2014?).

What kind of improvements do you think the 5DIII needs? If a person wants 1DX specs then they should buy a 1DX. Unless you're buying the top 1 series, you're not going to get all the goodies.
 
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Razor2012 said:
What kind of improvements do you think the 5DIII needs?

Well, as you see I don't own one (yet, still waiting for the price to drop or if it doesn't to get a used 5d2). But this is what can be improved w/o copying features from the 1d like spot metering on the af point:

* pop-up flash and/or built-in rf controller vs attaching a bulky dedicated controller or 580ex-type flash just to have master capability when only using external flashes. I'd be absolutely ok with a hole in metal casing like on the 6d, in fact when they're at it they should build in wifi, too.

* better servo af indicators (instead of the semi-random blinking, if that feature ever makes it to the 5d3). Of course my 60d (and the 7d afaik) don't have that either, but I certainly won't try to track sports with it.

* faster sd controller - as it is sd is only good for jpeg backup and starting magic lantern [EDIT: remove "crippled" because I don't think the slow sd slot is intentional either]

* faster x-sync

* faster contrast af (like the 650d af pixels)

* replaceable viewing screens

* faster lock with af assist beam

* better af with non-f2.8 lenses (like my 70-300L that only uses non-cross on the sides even when at f4)

* well, for me: swivel screen (yes-this-is-very-useful)
 
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Marsu42 said:
Razor2012 said:
What kind of improvements do you think the 5DIII needs?

Well, as you see I don't own one (yet, still waiting for the price to drop or if it doesn't to get a used 5d2). But this is what can be improved w/o copying features from the 1d like spot metering on the af point:

* pop-up flash

would be nice but it doesn't seem to be their way for above xxD
there are some complaints about TSE and D700/D800, not sure how serious or whether that could be avoided


* non-crippled, faster sd controller - as it is sd is only good for jpeg backup and starting magic lantern

apparently that is just how their chip maker makes the interfaces and it wasn't any intentional crippling by marketing, maybe by the next round i'm sure, it will be different

* replaceable viewing screens

would have been nice


* well, for me: swivel screen (yes-this-is-very-useful)

could be useful


I think video is where they could've crippled it less, although ML is starting to fill in some of the gaps but better quality codecs, two crop modes, peaking, 100% zoom box live during filming, zebras, clean HDMI 1080p out, better histogram, etc. (ML does give better histogram and zebras and some degree of peaking already, not sure it will ever be able to give crop modes and who knows how far it can go with the codecs, etc.)
 
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