R5MK II- the mechanical noise

[Dholai]

Got 2 bodies yesterday. There is a loud clutteing noise whenever the camera body is moved. Most likely is the IBIS but it really is loud as if a metal part is banging against another. The banging noise goes down when a lens is attached but never dies unless the camera is not touched for a while. Also, while shooting- a continuous hum is present likely form the same IBIS- pretty annoying and I guess it will ruin the audio-if video is recorded.

Both the cameras behaved identically.

Never noticed this noise with the original R 5 and I have 3 of them

Anybody else worried about it?

I am seriously thinking to return and get replacement copies

 

[AlanF]

Got 2 bodies yesterday. There is a loud clutteing noise whenever the camera body is moved. Most likely is the IBIS but it really is loud as if a metal part is banging against another. The banging noise goes down when a lens is attached but never dies unless the camera is not touched for a while. Also, while shooting- a continuous hum is present likely form the same IBIS- pretty annoying and I guess it will ruin the audio-if video is recorded.

Both the cameras behaved identically.

Never noticed this noise with the original R 5 and I have 3 of them

Anybody else worried about it?

I am seriously thinking to return and get replacement copies

If you have two that are the same then maybe, just maybe, the next will be similar.

 

[Loswr]

If you have two that are the same then maybe, just maybe, the next will be similar.

If the experiment fails, repeat it. You only have to hit p < 0.05 once…even if it takes 20 attempts.

 

[YuengLinger]

If it is designed to have a rattling sound, we would all hope that whatever is making the sound is engineered to withstand years of normal handling. On the other hand, it might not work well as a martini Shaker.

I like to think I’ve come a long way since fretting over the sound of the 100 to 500 mm IS system.

 

[AlanF]

I like to think I’ve come a long way since fretting over the sound of the 100 to 500 mm IS system.

Yes, that was one traumatic episode!

 

[Halfmoon]

Yes, that was one traumatic episode!

I just got mine and was very worried for a while, but after testing it... guess it is the design..... since the images looked sharp..... even though I heard of IS system that like to shake it's pom pom and rattle like a snake..... you only feel assured when you test and see the sharp images.

 

[SvO2]

If the experiment fails, repeat it. You only have to hit p < 0.05 once…even if it takes 20 attempts.

Significant

xkcd.com

 

[OldrockyGN]

Hmmm, I suspect some setting or other is directly related to this noise. Go check the AF settings
and look for things that are likely to cause 'continuous attempts to focus' ... ??? I agree, this
sounds like a true concern and finding it and solving it is certain to save battery. There are some
AF settings related to sports ("follow the ball" type stuff) that might be the cause?
My R5m2 does not do this - and hasn't ever. I used one of the youtube "setup your R5m2" guides
to go thru all of my settings ... and especially the AF section. There are at least 3 such guides. The
only one I remember the name of the person is "Wild Alaska" who was setting up the camera for
wildlife and birding. I have just a few days with my R5m2 and only one day when I was shooting
(whale watching tour in very poor light - overcast and fog - so both low light levels and low
contrast) and the AF did as well as can be expected in that situation. I have yet to be able to
check the AF subject eye following stuff - today is promising to have some sun so I'm hoping to
check that.

 

[koenkooi]

Hmmm, I suspect some setting or other is directly related to this noise. Go check the AF settings
and look for things that are likely to cause 'continuous attempts to focus' ... ??? I agree, this
sounds like a true concern and finding it and solving it is certain to save battery. There are some
AF settings related to sports ("follow the ball" type stuff) that might be the cause?
My R5m2 does not do this - and hasn't ever. I used one of the youtube "setup your R5m2" guides
to go thru all of my settings ... and especially the AF section. There are at least 3 such guides. The
only one I remember the name of the person is "Wild Alaska" who was setting up the camera for
wildlife and birding. I have just a few days with my R5m2 and only one day when I was shooting
(whale watching tour in very poor light - overcast and fog - so both low light levels and low
contrast) and the AF did as well as can be expected in that situation. I have yet to be able to
check the AF subject eye following stuff - today is promising to have some sun so I'm hoping to
check that.

Canon renamed that to ‘Preview AF’: https://cam.start.canon/en/C017/manual/html/UG-04_AF-Drive_0100.html#AF-Drive_0100_1-3

 

[Dholai]

Thanks everybody for the real helpful responses ! I am sure I have made your weekend a little better!! Thanks for the jokes.
Unfortunately, my concern remains.
The rattling noise, the banging sound is very loud on the body when no lens is attached and camera is switched OFF. I did shake the camera after unboxing it and was startled to hear the loud banging noise ! I thought something ( a metal part) was broken loose! The concern I have is, if the IBIS system is THAT LOOSE , how is it going to remain undamaged over a period of rough use.
BTW, I am very familiar with the rattling noise of the IS motor in lenses and IBIS noise in R5-I have to press my ear against the body to hear it and yes - I do have a 100-500 that makes no auduble issue. I have used EF lenses with adapters on R5 - no issues.

It looks like I can not upload a video file. Was going to do that

I can do without additional jokes- please. Thank you.

 

[Quack]

Got 2 bodies yesterday. There is a loud clutteing noise whenever the camera body is moved. Most likely is the IBIS but it really is loud as if a metal part is banging against another. The banging noise goes down when a lens is attached but never dies unless the camera is not touched for a while. Also, while shooting- a continuous hum is present likely form the same IBIS- pretty annoying and I guess it will ruin the audio-if video is recorded.

Both the cameras behaved identically.

Never noticed this noise with the original R 5 and I have 3 of them

Anybody else worried about it?

I am seriously thinking to return and get replacement copies

It you have concerns, then yes, return them. Seems simple enough as long as the place you bought them from accepts returns.

Seems like a no-brainer. If you purchase a $4000 item, you need to be sure it is OK.

 

[Sporgon]

My understanding is that the IBIS unit in the R6II is also free to move about and “clunk” when the power is off compared with the original R6.
I find this interest because I had a brief dabble with a Pentax K20D in 2006, and the (very early implementation of) IBIS sensor in that was just the same; it banged about in an alarming fashion when the power was off. However, in later Pentax cameras such as the K5 this didn’t happen.
So I’m surprised that going back to the mid noughties the early adopters of IBIS sorted this clunking of the unpowered sensor unit out, whereas Canon appear to have gone the other way.
I didn’t like the clunking then, and I certainly wouldn’t now.

 

[koenkooi]

My understanding is that the IBIS unit in the R6II is also free to move about and “clunk” when the power is off compared with the original R6.
I find this interest because I had a brief dabble with a Pentax K20D in 2006, and the (very early implementation of) IBIS sensor in that was just the same; it banged about in an alarming fashion when the power was off. However, in later Pentax cameras such as the K5 this didn’t happen.
So I’m surprised that going back to the mid noughties the early adopters of IBIS sorted this clunking of the unpowered sensor unit out, whereas Canon appear to have gone the other way.
I didn’t like the clunking then, and I certainly wouldn’t now.

Even for in-lens IS, Canon is moving away from a mechanical parking position to a purely electromagnetic solution.
As much as I trust Canon to engineer it to keep working inside the most generous warranty period, the clunking does unnerve me.

Having said that, my R5II doesn’t clunk any more or louder than my R5, although I can’t compare them side by side.

 

[MikeGalos]

The concern I have is, if the IBIS system is THAT LOOSE , how is it going to remain undamaged over a period of rough use.

A valid concern. Note that, back when it was announced three years ago, Nikon listed the automatic locking of the IBIS system on power down, a major feature new to the Z 9.

 

[YuengLinger]

Got 2 bodies yesterday. There is a loud clutteing noise whenever the camera body is moved. Most likely is the IBIS but it really is loud as if a metal part is banging against another. The banging noise goes down when a lens is attached but never dies unless the camera is not touched for a while. Also, while shooting- a continuous hum is present likely form the same IBIS- pretty annoying and I guess it will ruin the audio-if video is recorded.

Both the cameras behaved identically.

Never noticed this noise with the original R 5 and I have 3 of them

Anybody else worried about it?

I am seriously thinking to return and get replacement copies

Were both bodies in the same larger shipping carton? We’ve all seen very rough handling of packages.

Being as loud as you are hearing seems like something that would be all over YouTube. If you happened to get two with the same sound that nobody else hears, maybe you should return both and just order one first.

Yet another reminder of the good old days when we could walk into a camera shop and actually try something before buying it.

 

[stillviking]

"My understanding is that the IBIS unit in the R6II is also free to move about and “clunk” when the power is off "

He's concerned about R5II, R6II has the problem? If yes, maybe not a problem, but just annoying!

 

[amorse]

I got my R5 ii last week, and I definitely hear something loose in there when it's off and I move the camera around - I asumed it was the IBIS module moving around when unpowered. I also hear the hum which sounds a lot like a fan (though I know that's not what it is) coming from the LCD housing area. I assumed all of that was how it was supposed to function! The two hot pixels visible in the EVF, however, I did not think were supposed to be there.