Samyang/Rokinon 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
The amount of detail this lens renders is stunning:

Lots of detail, but I wanted to see a larger version!

Sorry - this one has commercial value, so I don't give away the big ones.

I'm the same way with most of mine.

Don't blame you. I've managed to make photography somewhat profitable in a day where photography has been cheapened, but it is a fight.
 
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Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
The amount of detail this lens renders is stunning:

Lots of detail, but I wanted to see a larger version!

Sorry - this one has commercial value, so I don't give away the big ones.

I'm the same way with most of mine.

Don't blame you. I've managed to make photography somewhat profitable in a day where photography has been cheapened, but it is a fight.

Well you're ahead of me there obviously, but I hope to learn more how to go about it. Because I have some amazing prints ready to sell right now...at least in my opinion and lots of folks who saw them, but chose to buy hand made jewelry and the like, instead!
 
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Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
The amount of detail this lens renders is stunning:

Lots of detail, but I wanted to see a larger version!

Sorry - this one has commercial value, so I don't give away the big ones.

I'm the same way with most of mine.

Don't blame you. I've managed to make photography somewhat profitable in a day where photography has been cheapened, but it is a fight.

Well you're ahead of me there obviously, but I hope to learn more how to go about it. Because I have some amazing prints ready to sell right now...at least in my opinion and lots of folks who saw them, but chose to buy hand made jewelry and the like, instead!

At one point I decided not to worry about the commercial side of things and simply enjoy my photography. To me it is strictly a hobby and fortunately my job pays well enough to be a little bit creative on the equipment side of things as well, but I'm keeping it reasonable ;) I admire those who can make a profit out of photography, especially in these timen. Seems like a lot of hard work to me.
 
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Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
The amount of detail this lens renders is stunning:

Lots of detail, but I wanted to see a larger version!

Sorry - this one has commercial value, so I don't give away the big ones.

I'm the same way with most of mine.

Don't blame you. I've managed to make photography somewhat profitable in a day where photography has been cheapened, but it is a fight.

Well you're ahead of me there obviously, but I hope to learn more how to go about it. Because I have some amazing prints ready to sell right now...at least in my opinion and lots of folks who saw them, but chose to buy hand made jewelry and the like, instead!

At one point I decided not to worry about the commercial side of things and simply enjoy my photography. To me it is strictly a hobby and fortunately my job pays well enough to be a little bit creative on the equipment side of things as well, but I'm keeping it reasonable ;) I admire those who can make a profit out of photography, especially in these timen. Seems like a lot of hard work to me.

Is your regular job not hard work? If I was making 6 or 7 figures from other types of work, I would still try to sell my photography. I'd also like to get into film production. But yes, photography itself has been radically cheapened and diluted in this day and age, and basically the world has 6 billion "photographers". Almost seems like a billion of them are better than I am, or at least sell more of their work than I do!
 
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Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
The amount of detail this lens renders is stunning:

Lots of detail, but I wanted to see a larger version!

Sorry - this one has commercial value, so I don't give away the big ones.

I'm the same way with most of mine.

Don't blame you. I've managed to make photography somewhat profitable in a day where photography has been cheapened, but it is a fight.

Well you're ahead of me there obviously, but I hope to learn more how to go about it. Because I have some amazing prints ready to sell right now...at least in my opinion and lots of folks who saw them, but chose to buy hand made jewelry and the like, instead!

At one point I decided not to worry about the commercial side of things and simply enjoy my photography. To me it is strictly a hobby and fortunately my job pays well enough to be a little bit creative on the equipment side of things as well, but I'm keeping it reasonable ;) I admire those who can make a profit out of photography, especially in these timen. Seems like a lot of hard work to me.

Is your regular job not hard work? If I was making 6 or 7 figures from other types of work, I would still try to sell my photography. I'd also like to get into film production. But yes, photography itself has been radically cheapened and diluted in this day and age, and basically the world has 6 billion "photographers". Almost seems like a billion of them are better than I am, or at least sell more of their work than I do!

My regular job is hard work, so I like to spend my free time not worrying about making money. If there were an easy way to make money from my photography, I might consider it but looking back at the time I was a student (and heavily into mountainbiking), working part-time in a bikeshop killed a lot of the enthusiasm I had for bicycle gear and in the end, cycling itself.
 
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Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
The amount of detail this lens renders is stunning:

Lots of detail, but I wanted to see a larger version!

Sorry - this one has commercial value, so I don't give away the big ones.

I'm the same way with most of mine.

Don't blame you. I've managed to make photography somewhat profitable in a day where photography has been cheapened, but it is a fight.

Well you're ahead of me there obviously, but I hope to learn more how to go about it. Because I have some amazing prints ready to sell right now...at least in my opinion and lots of folks who saw them, but chose to buy hand made jewelry and the like, instead!

At one point I decided not to worry about the commercial side of things and simply enjoy my photography. To me it is strictly a hobby and fortunately my job pays well enough to be a little bit creative on the equipment side of things as well, but I'm keeping it reasonable ;) I admire those who can make a profit out of photography, especially in these timen. Seems like a lot of hard work to me.

Is your regular job not hard work? If I was making 6 or 7 figures from other types of work, I would still try to sell my photography. I'd also like to get into film production. But yes, photography itself has been radically cheapened and diluted in this day and age, and basically the world has 6 billion "photographers". Almost seems like a billion of them are better than I am, or at least sell more of their work than I do!

My regular job is hard work, so I like to spend my free time not worrying about making money. If there were an easy way to make money from my photography, I might consider it but looking back at the time I was a student (and heavily into mountainbiking), working part-time in a bikeshop killed a lot of the enthusiasm I had for bicycle gear and in the end, cycling itself.

That's a shame, however maybe your chances of getting testicular cancer are less because of it?
 
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Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
The amount of detail this lens renders is stunning:

Lots of detail, but I wanted to see a larger version!

Sorry - this one has commercial value, so I don't give away the big ones.

I'm the same way with most of mine.

Don't blame you. I've managed to make photography somewhat profitable in a day where photography has been cheapened, but it is a fight.

Well you're ahead of me there obviously, but I hope to learn more how to go about it. Because I have some amazing prints ready to sell right now...at least in my opinion and lots of folks who saw them, but chose to buy hand made jewelry and the like, instead!

At one point I decided not to worry about the commercial side of things and simply enjoy my photography. To me it is strictly a hobby and fortunately my job pays well enough to be a little bit creative on the equipment side of things as well, but I'm keeping it reasonable ;) I admire those who can make a profit out of photography, especially in these timen. Seems like a lot of hard work to me.

Is your regular job not hard work? If I was making 6 or 7 figures from other types of work, I would still try to sell my photography. I'd also like to get into film production. But yes, photography itself has been radically cheapened and diluted in this day and age, and basically the world has 6 billion "photographers". Almost seems like a billion of them are better than I am, or at least sell more of their work than I do!

My regular job is hard work, so I like to spend my free time not worrying about making money. If there were an easy way to make money from my photography, I might consider it but looking back at the time I was a student (and heavily into mountainbiking), working part-time in a bikeshop killed a lot of the enthusiasm I had for bicycle gear and in the end, cycling itself.

That's a shame, however maybe your chances of getting testicular cancer are less because of it?

There's no relation between cycling and testicular cancer.
 
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Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
The amount of detail this lens renders is stunning:

Lots of detail, but I wanted to see a larger version!

Sorry - this one has commercial value, so I don't give away the big ones.

I'm the same way with most of mine.

Don't blame you. I've managed to make photography somewhat profitable in a day where photography has been cheapened, but it is a fight.

Well you're ahead of me there obviously, but I hope to learn more how to go about it. Because I have some amazing prints ready to sell right now...at least in my opinion and lots of folks who saw them, but chose to buy hand made jewelry and the like, instead!

At one point I decided not to worry about the commercial side of things and simply enjoy my photography. To me it is strictly a hobby and fortunately my job pays well enough to be a little bit creative on the equipment side of things as well, but I'm keeping it reasonable ;) I admire those who can make a profit out of photography, especially in these timen. Seems like a lot of hard work to me.

Is your regular job not hard work? If I was making 6 or 7 figures from other types of work, I would still try to sell my photography. I'd also like to get into film production. But yes, photography itself has been radically cheapened and diluted in this day and age, and basically the world has 6 billion "photographers". Almost seems like a billion of them are better than I am, or at least sell more of their work than I do!

My regular job is hard work, so I like to spend my free time not worrying about making money. If there were an easy way to make money from my photography, I might consider it but looking back at the time I was a student (and heavily into mountainbiking), working part-time in a bikeshop killed a lot of the enthusiasm I had for bicycle gear and in the end, cycling itself.

That's a shame, however maybe your chances of getting testicular cancer are less because of it?

There's no relation between cycling and testicular cancer.

Lance Armstrong would beg to differ.
 
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Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
The amount of detail this lens renders is stunning:

Lots of detail, but I wanted to see a larger version!

Sorry - this one has commercial value, so I don't give away the big ones.

I'm the same way with most of mine.

Don't blame you. I've managed to make photography somewhat profitable in a day where photography has been cheapened, but it is a fight.

Well you're ahead of me there obviously, but I hope to learn more how to go about it. Because I have some amazing prints ready to sell right now...at least in my opinion and lots of folks who saw them, but chose to buy hand made jewelry and the like, instead!

At one point I decided not to worry about the commercial side of things and simply enjoy my photography. To me it is strictly a hobby and fortunately my job pays well enough to be a little bit creative on the equipment side of things as well, but I'm keeping it reasonable ;) I admire those who can make a profit out of photography, especially in these timen. Seems like a lot of hard work to me.

Is your regular job not hard work? If I was making 6 or 7 figures from other types of work, I would still try to sell my photography. I'd also like to get into film production. But yes, photography itself has been radically cheapened and diluted in this day and age, and basically the world has 6 billion "photographers". Almost seems like a billion of them are better than I am, or at least sell more of their work than I do!

My regular job is hard work, so I like to spend my free time not worrying about making money. If there were an easy way to make money from my photography, I might consider it but looking back at the time I was a student (and heavily into mountainbiking), working part-time in a bikeshop killed a lot of the enthusiasm I had for bicycle gear and in the end, cycling itself.

That's a shame, however maybe your chances of getting testicular cancer are less because of it?

There's no relation between cycling and testicular cancer.

Lance Armstrong would beg to differ.

Haha we're straying far off topic, but if this were true, then a lot more people would have it.
 
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Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
The amount of detail this lens renders is stunning:

Lots of detail, but I wanted to see a larger version!

Sorry - this one has commercial value, so I don't give away the big ones.

I'm the same way with most of mine.

Don't blame you. I've managed to make photography somewhat profitable in a day where photography has been cheapened, but it is a fight.

Well you're ahead of me there obviously, but I hope to learn more how to go about it. Because I have some amazing prints ready to sell right now...at least in my opinion and lots of folks who saw them, but chose to buy hand made jewelry and the like, instead!

At one point I decided not to worry about the commercial side of things and simply enjoy my photography. To me it is strictly a hobby and fortunately my job pays well enough to be a little bit creative on the equipment side of things as well, but I'm keeping it reasonable ;) I admire those who can make a profit out of photography, especially in these timen. Seems like a lot of hard work to me.

Is your regular job not hard work? If I was making 6 or 7 figures from other types of work, I would still try to sell my photography. I'd also like to get into film production. But yes, photography itself has been radically cheapened and diluted in this day and age, and basically the world has 6 billion "photographers". Almost seems like a billion of them are better than I am, or at least sell more of their work than I do!

My regular job is hard work, so I like to spend my free time not worrying about making money. If there were an easy way to make money from my photography, I might consider it but looking back at the time I was a student (and heavily into mountainbiking), working part-time in a bikeshop killed a lot of the enthusiasm I had for bicycle gear and in the end, cycling itself.

That's a shame, however maybe your chances of getting testicular cancer are less because of it?

There's no relation between cycling and testicular cancer.

Lance Armstrong would beg to differ.

Haha we're straying far off topic, but if this were true, then a lot more people would have it.

Not necessarily. Anyway I think I'd like to buy a mountain bike after I sell my dirtbike! I don't foresee buying another dirtbike any time soon, but would still like to ride on two wheels offroad, while trying to stay in shape. I would not ride it all the time, though. Also don't want to spend a lot of money.
 
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Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

yorgasor said:
My son decided to get creative and see what kind of shot he could get of our Christmas decorations by spinning the camera around on the tripod with a long exposure shot. I think he did quite well:


Spinning Room by tazasor, on Flickr

I love this! Please pass on to your son that I think he did a superb job and that he should continue his creative photography efforts.
 
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Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

Vivid Color said:
yorgasor said:
My son decided to get creative and see what kind of shot he could get of our Christmas decorations by spinning the camera around on the tripod with a long exposure shot. I think he did quite well:


Spinning Room by tazasor, on Flickr

I love this! Please pass on to your son that I think he did a superb job and that he should continue his creative photography efforts.

For sure. This is a very cool abstract.
 
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Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
The amount of detail this lens renders is stunning:

Lots of detail, but I wanted to see a larger version!

Sorry - this one has commercial value, so I don't give away the big ones.

I'm the same way with most of mine.

Don't blame you. I've managed to make photography somewhat profitable in a day where photography has been cheapened, but it is a fight.

Well you're ahead of me there obviously, but I hope to learn more how to go about it. Because I have some amazing prints ready to sell right now...at least in my opinion and lots of folks who saw them, but chose to buy hand made jewelry and the like, instead!

At one point I decided not to worry about the commercial side of things and simply enjoy my photography. To me it is strictly a hobby and fortunately my job pays well enough to be a little bit creative on the equipment side of things as well, but I'm keeping it reasonable ;) I admire those who can make a profit out of photography, especially in these timen. Seems like a lot of hard work to me.

Is your regular job not hard work? If I was making 6 or 7 figures from other types of work, I would still try to sell my photography. I'd also like to get into film production. But yes, photography itself has been radically cheapened and diluted in this day and age, and basically the world has 6 billion "photographers". Almost seems like a billion of them are better than I am, or at least sell more of their work than I do!

My regular job is hard work, so I like to spend my free time not worrying about making money. If there were an easy way to make money from my photography, I might consider it but looking back at the time I was a student (and heavily into mountainbiking), working part-time in a bikeshop killed a lot of the enthusiasm I had for bicycle gear and in the end, cycling itself.

That's a shame, however maybe your chances of getting testicular cancer are less because of it?

There's no relation between cycling and testicular cancer.

Lance Armstrong would beg to differ.

Haha we're straying far off topic, but if this were true, then a lot more people would have it.

Not necessarily. Anyway I think I'd like to buy a mountain bike after I sell my dirtbike! I don't foresee buying another dirtbike any time soon, but would still like to ride on two wheels offroad, while trying to stay in shape. I would not ride it all the time, though. Also don't want to spend a lot of money.

Can't we go ONE day without talking about testicular cancer......
 
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Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

emag said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
The amount of detail this lens renders is stunning:

Lots of detail, but I wanted to see a larger version!

Sorry - this one has commercial value, so I don't give away the big ones.

I'm the same way with most of mine.

Don't blame you. I've managed to make photography somewhat profitable in a day where photography has been cheapened, but it is a fight.

Well you're ahead of me there obviously, but I hope to learn more how to go about it. Because I have some amazing prints ready to sell right now...at least in my opinion and lots of folks who saw them, but chose to buy hand made jewelry and the like, instead!

At one point I decided not to worry about the commercial side of things and simply enjoy my photography. To me it is strictly a hobby and fortunately my job pays well enough to be a little bit creative on the equipment side of things as well, but I'm keeping it reasonable ;) I admire those who can make a profit out of photography, especially in these timen. Seems like a lot of hard work to me.

Is your regular job not hard work? If I was making 6 or 7 figures from other types of work, I would still try to sell my photography. I'd also like to get into film production. But yes, photography itself has been radically cheapened and diluted in this day and age, and basically the world has 6 billion "photographers". Almost seems like a billion of them are better than I am, or at least sell more of their work than I do!

My regular job is hard work, so I like to spend my free time not worrying about making money. If there were an easy way to make money from my photography, I might consider it but looking back at the time I was a student (and heavily into mountainbiking), working part-time in a bikeshop killed a lot of the enthusiasm I had for bicycle gear and in the end, cycling itself.

That's a shame, however maybe your chances of getting testicular cancer are less because of it?

There's no relation between cycling and testicular cancer.

Lance Armstrong would beg to differ.

Haha we're straying far off topic, but if this were true, then a lot more people would have it.

Not necessarily. Anyway I think I'd like to buy a mountain bike after I sell my dirtbike! I don't foresee buying another dirtbike any time soon, but would still like to ride on two wheels offroad, while trying to stay in shape. I would not ride it all the time, though. Also don't want to spend a lot of money.

Can't we go ONE day without talking about testicular cancer......

To make this interesting thread a little mor interesting: no we can't, at least not today. But to be on topic, its a luck we can't get testicle cancer from buying cycling (or camera) gear, otherwise this forum would have to die. So lets buy something nice for christmas, and enjoy not to carry a to heavy wallet :)
 
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Re: Samyang 14mm f/2.8 IF ED UMC

hendrik-sg said:
emag said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
The amount of detail this lens renders is stunning:

Lots of detail, but I wanted to see a larger version!

Sorry - this one has commercial value, so I don't give away the big ones.

I'm the same way with most of mine.

Don't blame you. I've managed to make photography somewhat profitable in a day where photography has been cheapened, but it is a fight.

Well you're ahead of me there obviously, but I hope to learn more how to go about it. Because I have some amazing prints ready to sell right now...at least in my opinion and lots of folks who saw them, but chose to buy hand made jewelry and the like, instead!

At one point I decided not to worry about the commercial side of things and simply enjoy my photography. To me it is strictly a hobby and fortunately my job pays well enough to be a little bit creative on the equipment side of things as well, but I'm keeping it reasonable ;) I admire those who can make a profit out of photography, especially in these timen. Seems like a lot of hard work to me.

Is your regular job not hard work? If I was making 6 or 7 figures from other types of work, I would still try to sell my photography. I'd also like to get into film production. But yes, photography itself has been radically cheapened and diluted in this day and age, and basically the world has 6 billion "photographers". Almost seems like a billion of them are better than I am, or at least sell more of their work than I do!

My regular job is hard work, so I like to spend my free time not worrying about making money. If there were an easy way to make money from my photography, I might consider it but looking back at the time I was a student (and heavily into mountainbiking), working part-time in a bikeshop killed a lot of the enthusiasm I had for bicycle gear and in the end, cycling itself.

That's a shame, however maybe your chances of getting testicular cancer are less because of it?

There's no relation between cycling and testicular cancer.

Lance Armstrong would beg to differ.

Haha we're straying far off topic, but if this were true, then a lot more people would have it.

Not necessarily. Anyway I think I'd like to buy a mountain bike after I sell my dirtbike! I don't foresee buying another dirtbike any time soon, but would still like to ride on two wheels offroad, while trying to stay in shape. I would not ride it all the time, though. Also don't want to spend a lot of money.

Can't we go ONE day without talking about testicular cancer......

To make this interesting thread a little mor interesting: no we can't, at least not today. But to be on topic, its a luck we can't get testicle cancer from buying cycling (or camera) gear, otherwise this forum would have to die. So lets buy something nice for christmas, and enjoy not to carry a to heavy wallet :)
It's just great, this many nested quotes; creates an interesting effect I must say 8)
 
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mrsfotografie said:
hendrik-sg said:
emag said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
mrsfotografie said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
CarlTN said:
TWI by Dustin Abbott said:
The amount of detail this lens renders is stunning:

Lots of detail, but I wanted to see a larger version!

Sorry - this one has commercial value, so I don't give away the big ones.

I'm the same way with most of mine.

Don't blame you. I've managed to make photography somewhat profitable in a day where photography has been cheapened, but it is a fight.

Well you're ahead of me there obviously, but I hope to learn more how to go about it. Because I have some amazing prints ready to sell right now...at least in my opinion and lots of folks who saw them, but chose to buy hand made jewelry and the like, instead!

At one point I decided not to worry about the commercial side of things and simply enjoy my photography. To me it is strictly a hobby and fortunately my job pays well enough to be a little bit creative on the equipment side of things as well, but I'm keeping it reasonable ;) I admire those who can make a profit out of photography, especially in these timen. Seems like a lot of hard work to me.

Is your regular job not hard work? If I was making 6 or 7 figures from other types of work, I would still try to sell my photography. I'd also like to get into film production. But yes, photography itself has been radically cheapened and diluted in this day and age, and basically the world has 6 billion "photographers". Almost seems like a billion of them are better than I am, or at least sell more of their work than I do!

My regular job is hard work, so I like to spend my free time not worrying about making money. If there were an easy way to make money from my photography, I might consider it but looking back at the time I was a student (and heavily into mountainbiking), working part-time in a bikeshop killed a lot of the enthusiasm I had for bicycle gear and in the end, cycling itself.

That's a shame, however maybe your chances of getting testicular cancer are less because of it?

There's no relation between cycling and testicular cancer.

Lance Armstrong would beg to differ.

Haha we're straying far off topic, but if this were true, then a lot more people would have it.

Not necessarily. Anyway I think I'd like to buy a mountain bike after I sell my dirtbike! I don't foresee buying another dirtbike any time soon, but would still like to ride on two wheels offroad, while trying to stay in shape. I would not ride it all the time, though. Also don't want to spend a lot of money.

Can't we go ONE day without talking about testicular cancer......

To make this interesting thread a little mor interesting: no we can't, at least not today. But to be on topic, its a luck we can't get testicle cancer from buying cycling (or camera) gear, otherwise this forum would have to die. So lets buy something nice for christmas, and enjoy not to carry a to heavy wallet :)
It's just great, this many nested quotes; creates an interesting effect I must say 8)
Over at heise.de they call it a submarine thread, their forum software displays threads differently. Users of course tested how deep the submarine could go before it touched the ocean floor (the software limits).

Here it looks more like a tunnel, so we have a tunnel thread. Do we know how deep a tunnel we can build? :)
 
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