seeimpossible.usa.canon.com?

[tayassu]

With all respect...

Always a giveaway that no respect will follow

They see everybody complaining about missing DR, high MP or Mirrorless...

Yes everyone....no wait...actually about six people who keep repeating the same complaints over and over again.

First, I have respect for Canon, I like their products and still think they are the best choice in the camera world, that was not only an empty phrase; I just do not like what they did there.

Second, six people don't make that much threads about DR and so on. For six people, the word DRones would never have been invented. Often there are one-time-posters with this opinion scared off by the harsh words of Canon fanboys. There is more to the story and everyone would lie if he said, a Canon body with more DR was a negative development!

 

[tayassu]

But the weak-minded are the (relative) masses and they influence or should influence what Canon does
And I don't see any reason not to post that here, as others complain here too, much heavier than I do.

I think Canon is more concerned with influencing them than the other way around – that's the point of advertising!

Of course, this is why they started a customer-oriented microsite

 

[dstppy]

With all respect, but this was the dumbest, silliest, least conceived action I have seen from Canon!
They see everybody complaining about missing DR, high MP or Mirrorless, they build up quite a lot of tension (look at this thread, 20 pages of speculations), everyone does expect a revolutionary product even more, but instead of bringing on a development announcement of the mythical 3D or the M3, what do they do?

With respect, anyone expecting a development announcement coming specifically from Canon USA was deluding themselves.

As for the complaining...people with issues should complain where it matters... Hint: that's not here. :

Indeed, the way you complain is by not buying Canon products and that's why next April, I won't be spending money on Canon but on Sony. Hit them where it hurts: in the pocket. They won't listen to anything else.

But you'll post about it here . . . again . . . and again and again.

Sony DOES have an excellent track record of bringing top-of-the-line technologies to market in a timely fashion, at a good price, without bugs or glitches, so at least you've got that going for you. : They've become mainstream in every technology they ever were ahead at . . . they're the number one name in TVs, Portable Music Players, Laptops, and, oh yeah, cameras.

 

[DominoDude]

Now that the timer counted down to zero, it has revealed - more than anything, what we desired, what we wanted, what we imagine - that Canon is about more than "just" cameras, or printers, or whatever we thought they were selling.
I think they reached the goal of the campaign - if it were to show that Canon can do more than we know of.

 

[AcutancePhotography]

Indeed, the way you complain is by not buying Canon products and that's why next April, I won't be spending money on Canon but on Sony. Hit them where it hurts: in the pocket. They won't listen to anything else.

But you have to inform Canon of your decision. If you just stop buying Canon, they won't notice. Write a letter (a real letter not e-mail) to the regional and even international directors laying out your decision process in a calm but firm manner.

Canon is less concerned with people not buying Canon compared with Canon customers leaving the brand.

 

[zlatko]

With all respect, but this was the dumbest, silliest, least conceived action I have seen from Canon!
They see everybody complaining about missing DR, high MP or Mirrorless, they build up quite a lot of tension (look at this thread, 20 pages of speculations), everyone does expect a revolutionary product even more, but instead of bringing on a development announcement of the mythical 3D or the M3, what do they do?

With respect, anyone expecting a development announcement coming specifically from Canon USA was deluding themselves.

As for the complaining...people with issues should complain where it matters... Hint: that's not here. :

Indeed, the way you complain is by not buying Canon products and that's why next April, I won't be spending money on Canon but on Sony. Hit them where it hurts: in the pocket. They won't listen to anything else.

While you're complaining, I'm sticking with Canon. Which other system offers these options? —
8-15 fisheye zoom
17 tilt-shift
24 with IS
28 with IS
35 with IS
best 24-70/2.8
24-70/4 with IS and macro
23mm pancake
40mm pancake
50 1.2
85 1.2
200-400 with built-in 1.4X
flash with built-in radio
superb ergonomics
dual-pixel AF
12-14 fps
world's lightest DSLR

 

[heptagon]

With all respect, but this was the dumbest, silliest, least conceived action I have seen from Canon!
They see everybody complaining about missing DR, high MP or Mirrorless, they build up quite a lot of tension (look at this thread, 20 pages of speculations), everyone does expect a revolutionary product even more, but instead of bringing on a development announcement of the mythical 3D or the M3, what do they do?

With respect, anyone expecting a development announcement coming specifically from Canon USA was deluding themselves.

As for the complaining...people with issues should complain where it matters... Hint: that's not here. :

Indeed, the way you complain is by not buying Canon products and that's why next April, I won't be spending money on Canon but on Sony. Hit them where it hurts: in the pocket. They won't listen to anything else.

While you're complaining, I'm sticking with Canon. Which other system offers these options? —
8-15 fisheye zoom
17 tilt-shift
24 with IS
28 with IS
35 with IS
best 24-70/2.8
24-70/4 with IS and macro
23mm pancake
40mm pancake
50 1.2
85 1.2
200-400 with built-in 1.4X
flash with built-in radio
superb ergonomics
dual-pixel AF
12-14 fps
world's lightest DSLR

Sony A7R with Canon lens adapter.

 

[AcutancePhotography]

Sony A7R with Canon lens adapter.

Maybe Canon should just make lenses and not bodies? ;D

 

[Loswr]

With all respect, but this was the dumbest, silliest, least conceived action I have seen from Canon!
They see everybody complaining about missing DR, high MP or Mirrorless, they build up quite a lot of tension (look at this thread, 20 pages of speculations), everyone does expect a revolutionary product even more, but instead of bringing on a development announcement of the mythical 3D or the M3, what do they do?

With respect, anyone expecting a development announcement coming specifically from Canon USA was deluding themselves.

As for the complaining...people with issues should complain where it matters... Hint: that's not here. :

Indeed, the way you complain is by not buying Canon products and that's why next April, I won't be spending money on Canon but on Sony. Hit them where it hurts: in the pocket. They won't listen to anything else.

While you're complaining, I'm sticking with Canon. Which other system offers these options? —
8-15 fisheye zoom
17 tilt-shift
24 with IS
28 with IS
35 with IS
best 24-70/2.8
24-70/4 with IS and macro
23mm pancake
40mm pancake
50 1.2
85 1.2
200-400 with built-in 1.4X
flash with built-in radio
superb ergonomics
dual-pixel AF
12-14 fps
world's lightest DSLR

Sony A7R with Canon lens adapter.

Try again. :

 

[PhotoCat]

too disappointing! I like engineers better!

 

[dstppy]

Indeed, the way you complain is by not buying Canon products and that's why next April, I won't be spending money on Canon but on Sony. Hit them where it hurts: in the pocket. They won't listen to anything else.

But you have to inform Canon of your decision. If you just stop buying Canon, they won't notice. Write a letter (a real letter not e-mail) to the regional and even international directors laying out your decision process in a calm but firm manner.

Canon is less concerned with people not buying Canon compared with Canon customers leaving the brand.

You realize he's actually a bot, right? Someone would have to mail it for him. ;D

 

[JohnDizzo15]

Sony A7R with Canon lens adapter.

LOL. Try that out and let us know how it goes.

I did for the past couple of months and the Sony is now gone.

 

[Loswr]

They see everybody complaining about missing DR, high MP or Mirrorless...

Yes everyone....no wait...actually about six people who keep repeating the same complaints over and over again.

Second, six people don't make that much threads about DR and so on. For six people, the word DRones would never have been invented.

As the person who originated the moniker 'DRone', I can assure it was coined based on around six people...maybe less. In fact, the number hasn't really changed much, only the individuals (and in some cases, only the forum accounts).

 

[AcutancePhotography]

I don't know that writing to Canon will achieve anything. They're a public company, what they care about is sales numbers. Whilst I might be just one drop in the ocean that doesn't buy Canon next year and buys Sony instead, if there are enough then Canon will have no choice but to notice.

If you are the only one who writes to Canon, you are right. Your viewpoints won't matter much. If more people write Canon, it will add mass.

Also, since most people will prefer to bitch on an internet forum, when Canon reads your letter, they will probably think that if this guy went to the bother of writing us, how many other customers feel the same but did not bother to write?

In the end, no letter we write can compel Canon to take any action... but it will get noticed. Canon may read your letter and decide it is in the company's best interest to ignore it.. or they may change. Ain't it worth the price of a stamp to at least try?

That is, of course, if the problem is really that important to you.

 

[Khalai]

Indeed, the way you complain is by not buying Canon products and that's why next April, I won't be spending money on Canon but on Sony. Hit them where it hurts: in the pocket. They won't listen to anything else.

While you're complaining, I'm sticking with Canon. Which other system offers these options? —
8-15 fisheye zoom
17 tilt-shift
24 with IS
28 with IS
35 with IS
best 24-70/2.8
24-70/4 with IS and macro
23mm pancake
40mm pancake
50 1.2
85 1.2
200-400 with built-in 1.4X
flash with built-in radio
superb ergonomics
dual-pixel AF
12-14 fps
world's lightest DSLR

The option list can go from NYC to SFC for all I care.

If I need to do prints at ~3' in size at 300dpi with out of camera images then there is nothing that Canon currently offers that will do that for me, irrespective of the lens. If I need clean shadows then there is nothing that from Canon that I can currently buy to give me that. And so on.

All the options in the world are meaningless to me if the system doesn't offer me the options that *I* need and what I need is better IQ, not a dozen super expensive and heavy lenses that I'll never own or use.

That almost 11,000px on the long edge. Good luck finding such camera on this planet without need to rob a bank first

 

[JohnDizzo15]

The option list can go from NYC to SFC for all I care.

If I need to do prints at ~3' in size at 300dpi with out of camera images then there is nothing that Canon currently offers that will do that for me, irrespective of the lens. If I need clean shadows then there is nothing that from Canon that I can currently buy to give me that. And so on.

All the options in the world are meaningless to me if the system doesn't offer me the options that *I* need and what I need is better IQ, not a dozen super expensive and heavy lenses that I'll never own or use.

Conversely, the ability to capture the shots is just as integral to the process. I would imagine that for a very finite (miniscule) niche of photogs shooting very specific niche things, using Sony would be perfect and without issue. But for the rest of the real world (and majority of photographers), it is much more laborious and/or impossible to accomplish certain types of photography with a Sony a7xxx rig.

Not saying Sony won't get "there" at some point. I am hoping they do as I am more than willing to invest into a complete system with them as I have already attempted to do with the a7r/lens. Only problem is, they are not "there" now and won't be in the immediate future.

As it stands, I have way too many varying photographic needs and the Sony rig either makes it hard or impossible for me to cover most of those things.

And if you are one of the lucky few that is able to accomplish everything they need to with consistency and ease with a Sony a7xxx rig, then more power to ya. Also not sure why you would still be on this forum complaining since you should probably be on sonyalpharumors talking about your new Sony gear at this point.

 

[zlatko]

With all respect, but this was the dumbest, silliest, least conceived action I have seen from Canon!
They see everybody complaining about missing DR, high MP or Mirrorless, they build up quite a lot of tension (look at this thread, 20 pages of speculations), everyone does expect a revolutionary product even more, but instead of bringing on a development announcement of the mythical 3D or the M3, what do they do?

With respect, anyone expecting a development announcement coming specifically from Canon USA was deluding themselves.

As for the complaining...people with issues should complain where it matters... Hint: that's not here. :

Indeed, the way you complain is by not buying Canon products and that's why next April, I won't be spending money on Canon but on Sony. Hit them where it hurts: in the pocket. They won't listen to anything else.

While you're complaining, I'm sticking with Canon. Which other system offers these options? —
8-15 fisheye zoom
17 tilt-shift
24 with IS
28 with IS
35 with IS
best 24-70/2.8
24-70/4 with IS and macro
23mm pancake
40mm pancake
50 1.2
85 1.2
200-400 with built-in 1.4X
flash with built-in radio
superb ergonomics
dual-pixel AF
12-14 fps
world's lightest DSLR

Sony A7R with Canon lens adapter.

... yes, if you want s-l-o-w autofocus. Lot's of subjects benefit from s-l-o-w autofocus and putting on adapters, etc.

 

[Tugela]

So, if I read this correctly, Canon have given up trying to compete with other manufacturers technology, and instead are going to focus on stories about how their customers "use" the products they make as a sales pitch?

Great. So we can expect smoke and mirrors but no substance.

It is like a fashion house deciding to focus not on being the cutting edge of fashion, but rather on how their customers were their garments in everyday use.

 

[Khalai]

So, if I read this correctly, Canon have given up trying to compete with other manufacturers technology, and instead are going to focus on stories about how their customers "use" the products they make as a sales pitch?

Great. So we can expect smoke and mirrors but no substance.

It is like a fashion house deciding to focus not on being the cutting edge of fashion, but rather on how their customers were their garments in everyday use.

Where does Canon say that exactly?

 

[zlatko]

Indeed, the way you complain is by not buying Canon products and that's why next April, I won't be spending money on Canon but on Sony. Hit them where it hurts: in the pocket. They won't listen to anything else.

While you're complaining, I'm sticking with Canon. Which other system offers these options? —
8-15 fisheye zoom
17 tilt-shift
24 with IS
28 with IS
35 with IS
best 24-70/2.8
24-70/4 with IS and macro
23mm pancake
40mm pancake
50 1.2
85 1.2
200-400 with built-in 1.4X
flash with built-in radio
superb ergonomics
dual-pixel AF
12-14 fps
world's lightest DSLR

The option list can go from NYC to SFC for all I care.

If I need to do prints at ~3' in size at 300dpi with out of camera images then there is nothing that Canon currently offers that will do that for me, irrespective of the lens. If I need clean shadows then there is nothing that from Canon that I can currently buy to give me that. And so on.

All the options in the world are meaningless to me if the system doesn't offer me the options that *I* need and what I need is better IQ, not a dozen super expensive and heavy lenses that I'll never own or use.

The point is each brand has some advantages, and none of the camera makers please everybody. Clean shadows are nice, but I've got that with any Canon camera as long as I expose correctly. I can't get any of the above items from a Sony camera (with fast AF). Also can't get a great optical viewfinder from Sony, or great battery life from an A7. So there are plusses and minuses.