luciolepri said:A 24-50mm, in my opinion, wouldn't be much popular, unless it is very fast and has an outstanding IQ. I once had a Pentax 24-50/4, but I always preferred to carry around three primes, which were much faster and had a much better IQ, since I had anyway to switch lens quite often, with such a small focal range zoom.
KyleSTL said:but the idea that an equivalent telephoto f/2 lens for the same relatively bargain price does not seem feasible.
moreorless said:luciolepri said:A 24-50mm, in my opinion, wouldn't be much popular, unless it is very fast and has an outstanding IQ. I once had a Pentax 24-50/4, but I always preferred to carry around three primes, which were much faster and had a much better IQ, since I had anyway to switch lens quite often, with such a small focal range zoom.
To be fair that's pretty much what they've come up with for ASPC users, a 28-55mm lens with excellent image quality wide open.
What I would question though is whether the appeal on FF would be as great, for one thing I'd say this range is better catered for with primes already and for another f/2 on FF is going to be a shallower DOF than f/1.8 on ASPC for the equivalent angle of view. Personally speaking I'd be interested in such a lens as I like to take landscape shots with shallow DOF but I think something like a 35-70mm f/2 might have a wider audience.
luciolepri said:moreorless said:luciolepri said:A 24-50mm, in my opinion, wouldn't be much popular, unless it is very fast and has an outstanding IQ. I once had a Pentax 24-50/4, but I always preferred to carry around three primes, which were much faster and had a much better IQ, since I had anyway to switch lens quite often, with such a small focal range zoom.
To be fair that's pretty much what they've come up with for ASPC users, a 28-55mm lens with excellent image quality wide open.
What I would question though is whether the appeal on FF would be as great, for one thing I'd say this range is better catered for with primes already and for another f/2 on FF is going to be a shallower DOF than f/1.8 on ASPC for the equivalent angle of view. Personally speaking I'd be interested in such a lens as I like to take landscape shots with shallow DOF but I think something like a 35-70mm f/2 might have a wider audience.
APS-C users are for sure more willing to buy such a short range zoom, to get a more "FF style" look in terms of dof. FF users... whole different story. What's more, a zoom like that for a FF, to have a good IQ, would still have to be quite big and expensive, I guess that few people would prefer it over a 24-70/2,8. Definetely, not people who are looking for a walkaround lens. Even people who shoot landscapes would probably prefer a 16-35/2,8...
Grumbaki said:luciolepri said:moreorless said:luciolepri said:A 24-50mm, in my opinion, wouldn't be much popular, unless it is very fast and has an outstanding IQ. I once had a Pentax 24-50/4, but I always preferred to carry around three primes, which were much faster and had a much better IQ, since I had anyway to switch lens quite often, with such a small focal range zoom.
To be fair that's pretty much what they've come up with for ASPC users, a 28-55mm lens with excellent image quality wide open.
What I would question though is whether the appeal on FF would be as great, for one thing I'd say this range is better catered for with primes already and for another f/2 on FF is going to be a shallower DOF than f/1.8 on ASPC for the equivalent angle of view. Personally speaking I'd be interested in such a lens as I like to take landscape shots with shallow DOF but I think something like a 35-70mm f/2 might have a wider audience.
APS-C users are for sure more willing to buy such a short range zoom, to get a more "FF style" look in terms of dof. FF users... whole different story. What's more, a zoom like that for a FF, to have a good IQ, would still have to be quite big and expensive, I guess that few people would prefer it over a 24-70/2,8. Definetely, not people who are looking for a walkaround lens. Even people who shoot landscapes would probably prefer a 16-35/2,8...
I'd kill for a (very) fast 35-85. Much better than 24-50 imho as 35 can already do pretty good lanscape but 50 is out of the butter zone for portraits.
jhanken said:Canonwatch has what is purported to be a leaked image, would seem this beast is getting a bit less mythical.
http://www.canonwatch.com/rumor-first-picture-of-sigma-24-70mm-f2-lens-leaked/
jhanken said:Canonwatch has what is purported to be a leaked image, would seem this beast is getting a bit less mythical.
http://www.canonwatch.com/rumor-first-picture-of-sigma-24-70mm-f2-lens-leaked/
Q: The 28-70 mm f/2.8 class lenses have been superseded by 24-70 mm f/2.8 instruments. Taking into the account the success of the Sigma 18-35 mm are you already thinking about a full frame construction of that type or rather about e.g. a 28-70 mm f/2.0 or a 28-50 mm f/2.0 model?
A: We don’t have a very concrete idea at the moment, yet we will keep on considering designing large aperture zoom lenses.
JR said:I think the new series of Sigma lens are amazing and they are so sharp it is scary! However not sure if I was the only one experiencing this but after buying the Sigma 35mm 1.4 (their new one) I ended up returning it and taking the older Canon 35mm L 1.4 instead. While the Canon is less sharp, I was always finding exposure to be weird with the sigma . With the Canon 35mm however my exposure was always on the notch.
Anyone else experience "exposure" challenge with the new series of sigma lenses?
vscd said:I second that. Canon should get the engineering staff to start again working on great ideas.
Marsu42 said:vscd said:I second that. Canon should get the engineering staff to start again working on great ideas.
It seems to me it's not about ideas, but about laws of physics - the innovative 200-400L is heavy for a reason, the same reason why they left IS out of the 24-70L2. And they are innovative with IS primes and hybrid af on the 24-70/4, while your request for just "updating" the traditional 35L with better iq contradicts the great ideas you seem to want.
One real innovation though will be the new line of DO lenses, there have been lots of patents on CR, but who knows when these will be released - probably only when they sold a non-DO prime to everyone so people have a reason to upgrade![]()
More than 10 years have passed since the Canon introduced a DO lens. They should be able to make DO lenses with enough contrast by now... ;DCarlTN said:Marsu42 said:vscd said:I second that. Canon should get the engineering staff to start again working on great ideas.
It seems to me it's not about ideas, but about laws of physics - the innovative 200-400L is heavy for a reason, the same reason why they left IS out of the 24-70L2. And they are innovative with IS primes and hybrid af on the 24-70/4, while your request for just "updating" the traditional 35L with better iq contradicts the great ideas you seem to want.
One real innovation though will be the new line of DO lenses, there have been lots of patents on CR, but who knows when these will be released - probably only when they sold a non-DO prime to everyone so people have a reason to upgrade![]()
If Canon released a new line of DO lenses, I bet you would see a lot of people in forums like this, complaining that they don't have enough contrast...and wishing they would make a counterpart that did not use diffractive optics. There's no shortage of people who like to complain.