On 8K RAW. (Best quality settings)Not really. I have filmed four music videos and two commercials on R5 so far. I was careful and there were ZERO overheating issues.
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On 8K RAW. (Best quality settings)Not really. I have filmed four music videos and two commercials on R5 so far. I was careful and there were ZERO overheating issues.
Still don't understand. My R5 shows RAW, RAW-light, ALL-I, IPB, and IPB-light as a choice of compression for 8k modes.Nothing is wrong with ALL-I. The feedback I have seen is that 8k raw is great but the file sizes are too great to handle easily. IPB-light is the only option that Canon has provided for low bit rate. Would be interesting if Canon could also provide a compressed 8k raw bit rate. Lossless compression ideally.
That's good to hear. What ambient temperature were you filming at, and how long were the clips and intervals between them?Not really. I have filmed four music videos and two commercials on R5 so far. I was careful and there were ZERO overheating issues.
Yes. I have asked Canon to make this a firmware update. I've also asked them to produce a more powerful battery and to fix the issue where the EVF shuts down 4 seconds after removing my eye from the camera. Hopefully others will send their own feedback directly to Canon.Did you submit a request for this ability to Canon? The more requests they get for the feature, the greater the likelihood that it will be prioritized.
No, I don't normally use a grip because I often shoot with the camera at ground level and want the lens to be as low as possible for these situations. Also I don't want the extra weight and bulk. For certain situations e,g, shooting on safari from a vehicle, I will be getting a grip. But it would be much better (for me) if Canon simply produced a more powerful battery - I rarely get through a day's shooting on a single battery, and sometimes I have to swap batteries twice a day.Do you use a grip? Does the high refresh rate on the EVF still not meet your requirements? The latter certainly impacts battery life but a grip/spare batteries seems to be a simple solution. I miss the battery life on my 5Div until I use full sensor eye-AF
I don't know that the price would have been lower without 8k. 8K fits the resolution perfectly (and oversampled 4k) so choosing 45mp wasn't a coincidence. The whole camera is designed around it (mp/CFe B/bus/DigicX etc). Canon just expected that users would love the option of 8k raw even with restricted time limits. Frankly the commentators couldn't believe that Canon could do 8k recording at all before release instead of 8k timelapse and then suddenly demanded unlimited recording times rather than understanding what a bargain it was compared to any other 8k camera.
Magic Lantern really showed Canon what could be possible even with temperature limitations/battery life. Canon let their engineers off the leash but it did bite them somewhat. I am glad that we have the features we have rather than more complaints about cr1pple hamm3r again
I am a little confused about the A1's resolution.... needing oversampling for its 8k with no raw option even with a crop. Reviewers loved the A1's lack of overheating in a smaller package albeit with at a substantial price increase though. Can't wait to see Roger's teardown and internal temperature measurements. The weird part if that the max CFe A card size is 160GB so 8k recording is still pretty limited in recording times.
The internet is very strange.
Flash speed and rolling shutter can both be improved by having faster readout, with an electronic shutter. I'll be surprised if Canon fit a global shutter to the R1 - I think that's at least another 5 years away, and most likely Sony will get there first.Flash sync speed, rolling shutter and banding under certain light seem to be the only requirements for a mechanical shutter that I can see. If the R1 has a global shutter then it will be interesting if Canon removes the mechanical shutter. Mechanical longevity and flash sync/rolling shutter should addressed but I am not sure about banding issues
I shoot mainly wildlife and macro, and I find the vari-angle screen quite awkward. A tilting screen is much better for me, because it's on-axis with the lens and sensor, making it much easier to pan or follow action. I love the screen on the Panasonic S1H, which tilts horizontally *and* vertically and remains on-axis, and can also swing out for video. I think the Fujifilm XT2 has a similar concept. I'd really love to see Canon, Nikon and Sony adopt the same design, but I guess that their pride will get in the way.I agree that street shooters would prefer a tilting rear lcd but you can still use the cari-angle one for this purpose if a little unwieldy. That said, a tilt LCD is useless when shooting in portrait mode eg for wide angle astrolandscapes. Being able to view the screen from that angle is a blessing!
That is by design.fix the issue where the EVF shuts down 4 seconds after removing my eye from the camera.
I am sure that is what you believe but I do not think we can reliably know whether that is true or not.It can't cost Canon much to develop or buy-in more powerful batteries.
HOT! Rajasthan, India in summers!! Also studios - but they were airconditioned. The longest clip was say 4 mins. I would turn off the camera between takes and we had at least a ten min gap between takes. Regular filming process. One hot afternoon I saw the heat warning and I quickly finished the shot and shut the camera. It was my production, my equipment, me directing and filming so I could adjust. If the filming was for someone else, I would not be able to turn off camera so often and believe overheating would certainly be an issue. I will say this: It is best to have two R5 bodies onset if a documentary-style shoot is on. Commercials/Videos provide enough cooldown time. Yet, even then two bodies would be better.That's good to hear. What ambient temperature were you filming at, and how long were the clips and intervals between them?
no a fan compromises weather sealing. The c70 is fat because it has nd filters and more ports like xlr and stuff. The fx3 has a fan and it is still small but is missing the stuff I mentioned.The C70 demonstrates why the original R5 didn't include a fan. A fan makes the camera "fat".
The sensor is way different so I cant see that. All it has to do is have the downsampled 4K and no overheating and it will be a great small camera for video. The 4K HQ on the R5 is supposed to be like the best 4K around then add Clog 2, now we are talking. If canon doesnt try to protect clog 2....R3 still looking like a better body potentially.
Unless R5C will FF C70 with DGO.
I would welcome a haptic (tactile) feedback option for silent shutter, so I could feel or hear the frame rate.I'd just like to have the *choice*. There are some occasions e.g. birds in flight, when 20fps is an advantage, but there are also plenty of occasions when I'd like to shoot at 10fps or 5fps with silent shutter.
For my own usage, I'd be quite content of there was no mechanical shutter (or EFCS).
But I'd like to be able to choose between single shot, 5fps, 10fps and 20fps, all with electronic shutter.
It would be so simple to offer this as a firmware update...
"...and we can always add it in firmware if the competition makes us look bad."Maybe it's just the usual Canon thing - i.e. "let's leave that out and put it in the next model, just offer users *enough* to make them buy, and kep them hooked, waiting for the next model"
I agree that the magic of the R5 is the oversampled 4K HQ. I would settle for just adding active cooling and unlimited record time.The sensor is way different so I cant see that. All it has to do is have the downsampled 4K and no overheating and it will be a great small camera for video. The 4K HQ on the R5 is supposed to be like the best 4K around then add Clog 2, now we are talking. If canon doesnt try to protect clog 2....
Just brainstorming here but on the latter issue, a button one could press to force the EVF to turn on might help (for all I know there's a way to set one already). You could press the button as you raise the camera to your eye (or even periodically if it looks like something interesting might be about to happen), thus getting the EVF turned on by the time the camera is at your eye, and that would let the EVF shut off at some times to save some battery juice.Yes. I have asked Canon to make this a firmware update. I've also asked them to produce a more powerful battery and to fix the issue where the EVF shuts down 4 seconds after removing my eye from the camera. Hopefully others will send their own feedback directly to Canon.
This is unrelated to your comment, but I saw your username and wanted to point out how dope it is. I am a huge Czarface and DOOM fan.Quite frankly, in my experience, gathering as much information from the internet is only going to confuse you more and is perhaps the worst way to choose a product. There is only one way to answer your questions and that is to try it yourself. Too many folks on the internet have their own agendas at the least, and are incompetent or deceitful at the worst. Not sure where you are located or your financial situation, but renting the cameras you are looking for is one solution, purchasing them from a reputable camera store that accepts returns is another. You can study and contemplate all day long, but until you use the camera in exactly the situations you intend to use them, you won't have an answer.
Hi Steve, Yes there are workarounds - you can keep tapping a button every 4 seconds to keep the EVF active, or you can hold the camera close to your chest to cover the eyepiece sensor, or you can cover the eyepiece sensor with black tape. None of these are much of a substitute for having a user-selectable EVF duration though. And if you use the button-tapping method, you have to make sure that the button isn't mapped for AF or any other function that would activate at an inappropriate time.Just brainstorming here but on the latter issue, a button one could press to force the EVF to turn on might help (for all I know there's a way to set one already). You could press the button as you raise the camera to your eye (or even periodically if it looks like something interesting might be about to happen), thus getting the EVF turned on by the time the camera is at your eye, and that would let the EVF shut off at some times to save some battery juice.
I do agree about electronic shutter. Why the hell NOT give people the option for single shot? Not only less stuff to wade through, but you don't fill cards as rapidly. (For plebeians like me with a mere 128GB card (which is still 3000 times the size of my first hard drive) and who doesn't necessarily want to suck down an eighth of a terabyte in one shoot, that could become an issue.)
I thought electronic shutter would give problems due to lack of feedback, but as the aperture closes down it makes a very quiet "whisper" which I find is just loud enough to rely on for feedback. Of course, it would also be nice if the user could assign a beep (volume adjustable) to shutter activation Easy in firmware to allow the user to choose between AF and shutter activation to hear the beep).I would welcome a haptic (tactile) feedback option for silent shutter, so I could feel or hear the frame rate.
And I can't even see why it should be limited to 5 or 10 or 20 FPS. Just pick a rate and let the camera do the math.