But it still does not make sense from that standpoint. Every single other camera maker's entry level FF non video oriented body has higher MP sensors typically between 24MP and 36MP. Entry level shooters are probably the largest group that cares about sensor resolution. Every YouTubber will tell those entry level shooters to stay away from the R6 because of it's "low" resolution not to mention the bar to entry for Canon mirrorless FF is a lot more expensive than it used to be due to RF lens costs.
CanonRumors even reported that Canon was working on a video oriented body and to me that's the only reason they would have chosen a 20MP sensor. Another counter to your logic is that they already have the RP which has higher resolution than the R6 yet is sub $1K. Why would they possibly add features that entry level shooters do not care about like dual card slots yet take away the one thing every Reviewer and YouTubber will complain about; sensor resolution?
I agree it is confusing times but we only have two numbers to go off of right now; not enough to see a pattern. So far we know the R6 is not as good as the R5 and we know the R5 is the 5D replacement. But we also know the R6 has a 20MP sensor which makes no sense except for video and the 1DX of course for sports; so if they are trying to keep some familiarity with the DSLR lines then the introduction of the R3, the repositioning of the R6, and the numbering scheme makes sense.
I know this is a lot of concjecture but hey...that's what is fun about rumors sites.
It makes sense if you look at the fact that they stated the R5 was meant to be a 5D IV replacement and the next number in the sequence R6 is not as good as the R5 but way better than an entrylevel FF.
Here is an updated list without the R3 since it doesn't seem to fit:
R1 - 1DX Mirrorless Replacement
R5 - 5D Replacement
R5S - 5DS Replacement
R6 - Video focused body but with less resolution to protect the R5
R8 - Entry level FF Canon Mirrorless (aka RP Mark II)
I skipped R7 since that would be too confusing with so many 7D users.
I agree it is confusing times but we only have two numbers to go off of right now; not enough to see a pattern. So far we know the R6 is not as good as the R5 and we know the R5 is the 5D replacement. But we also know the R6 has a 20MP sensor which makes no sense except for video and the 1DX of course for sports; so if they are trying to keep some familiarity with the DSLR lines then the introduction of the R3, the repositioning of the R6, and the numbering scheme makes sense.
I know this is a lot of concjecture but hey...that's what is fun about rumors sites.
It makes sense if you look at the fact that they stated the R5 was meant to be a 5D IV replacement and the next number in the sequence R6 is not as good as the R5 but way better than an entrylevel FF.
Here is an updated list without the R3 since it doesn't seem to fit:
R1 - 1DX Mirrorless Replacement
R5 - 5D Replacement
R5S - 5DS Replacement
R6 - Video focused body but with less resolution to protect the R5
R8 - Entry level FF Canon Mirrorless (aka RP Mark II)
I skipped R7 since that would be too confusing with so many 7D users.
There is some confusion here: It is very much a video oriented body among being a great stills camera.I 100% agree with you on the actual functional difference between 20MP and 24MP....the problem once again will be the marketing. There is no way Canon will live down a 20MP sensor in a non video oriented body. Marketing hype is a real thing...especially at these price points. Now one other scenario that would make perfect sense is simply that the Canon Rumor is wrong and the sensor is indeed 24 or more MP.
YouTubbers were even complaining about 20MP in the 1DXIII a body which is well understood and for a niche that is well known; and not one of them will probably ever own it or shoot a sporting event yet they still complained. Imagine if this thing releases as anything but video focused with a 20MP sensor.
Canon was always "special" in the past, separating products and product lines by hardware, even if a reasonable R&D cost calculation would recommend a reuse of one part (sensor) in a parallel product line (not to mix up with reuse of old parts).
I think it will come with Canon Log as well, so the DR will not be limited and the ISO will be great as well, the readout speed and the internal codecs will be more likely compromises." ... The EOS R6 will NOT use the same sensor as the EOS-1D X Mark III. .... "
OK, some miracle solved (would have been strange to get the same sensor in a body that cost a fraction and has same or better video and FPS capabilities.
Anyway: I do hope that the R5 does have the same sensor technology as the 1DXII i.e. high DR!
R6 with rumored specs makes zero sense to me. Definitely not interested in a crippled 20 MP FF camera in 2020. Even if it came at USD / € 999.
The R6 is a huge step down. 20mp sensor? 90D has 32.5 mp sensor.
The rest I can live with and was considering until I saw the 20 mp sensor.
At least make it 32 mp or sell the camera at T prices like $599.00 with a kit lens.
What people struggle to get a grip on, is that everything, and I mean, literally everything is a compromise.The R6 is a huge step down. 20mp sensor? 90D has 32.5 mp sensor.
The rest I can live with and was considering until I saw the 20 mp sensor.
At least make it 32 mp or sell the camera at T prices like $599.00 with a kit lens.
The R6 is a huge step down. 20mp sensor? 90D has 32.5 mp sensor.
The rest I can live with and was considering until I saw the 20 mp sensor.
At least make it 32 mp or sell the camera at T prices like $599.00 with a kit lens.
That's where my thinking is.Canon used a lot of weasel words for the R and RP sensors, when they only seem to have changed the microlens arrays on them. So it could very well be the 1dx3 sensor with a new microlens array and ibis.
And so it continues....
Panasonic GH5 - 20MP
Panasonic GH5S - 10MP
Sony A7SII - 12.2MP
What do they all have in common? They are all video oriented, all 20MP or less, and all pretty legendary in their video abilities.. In the video world less is more. If this debuts with a 20MP sensor, 4K60FPS, no recording limit, XLR module, video recording to both card slots, 4K raw over HDMI, DPAF at 4K60FPS..etc etc...no one will say this is a "huge" step down.
My hope is that this will be a great video oriented camera that can also take fantastic 20MP stills. Fun fact the average Instagram image is less than 2MP, full spread magazine shoots only need 20MP...how often do you even print any of your images?
How many MP you Need
It fails in that they are not in similar product categories (the other mirrorless-DSLR relationships are much closer to each other)That's where my thinking is.
What people struggle to get a grip on, is that everything, and I mean, literally everything is a compromise.
Yes the 90D has more megapixels, but the noise level is also higher, which is not the best for cropping (that's why some people who tried both and regularly use higher shutter speeds and crop, still prefer the 7D Mark II with - you guessed it - 20 megapixels)
Same with the video capabilities, no 4k60p and the uncropped 4k is too soft. This will be in a different league compared to that.
So it is actually less of a step down overall. There are two more cameras in the R family with more megapixels (yes, the EOS R does not have quite a few things, but its pricing is also low for what you are getting) so just make a choice according to your preferences.
No camera manufacturer will ever make a camera, that will have the exact features (on all aspects) and price as the users want, that's why all the Kermit the Frog style typing is generally pointless - I guess it is just something that makes feel people better, more important or something...
While I don't think there is an absolute sweet spot per se, the R5 45MP sensor is much more of a sweet spot for the R system itself, the majority of the native lenses can resolve far beyond that resolution as you can see on opticallimits, for instance. (And it is still tracks at 12fps mechanical, so it does not hurt speed either)At FF for stills, 32mp is a sweet spot.
For video if the 20 mp is what is desired and this camera is for that just fine then.