The EOS 6D Will Not be Replaced by a Mirrorless Camera

[Canon Rumors]

A <a href="http://petapixel.com/2016/12/20/canon-release-mirrorless-full-frame-camera-instead-6d-mark-ii-report/">recent report</a> at PetaPixel that seems to have gained traction suggests that the Canon EOS 6D Mark II will be replaced by a full frame mirrorless camera. This report is 100% untrue, the EOS 6D Mark II, which we expect to announced around May/June of 2017, will be a DSLR.</p>
<p>As for a full frame mirrorless camera, we haven’t seen any solid evidence of one coming in 2017.</p>
<p><em>More to come….</em></p>
<p><em><strong>Update 12/23/2016:</strong> We’ve updated the language in the post to better reflect the <a href="http://petapixel.com/2016/12/20/canon-release-mirrorless-full-frame-camera-instead-6d-mark-ii-report/">report at PetaPixel</a>.</em></p>
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[jebrady03]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

The PetaPixel report originated from CW (the other Canon Rumor site) which, IMO, was tipped off by someone who read a thread which was started on DPR and decided to submit a rumor based on theoretical conversation. I commented on CW, saying as much. The thread on DPR had numerous people speculating about what it would be like if the 6D replacement were mirrorless and shortly thereafter, the rumor at CW was posted, which PP picked up. At the time of the DPR thread, I even contemplated posting "I bet this ends up on a rumor site" but didn't. Wish I would have

 

[Crosswind]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

How much smaller can it be without loosing its perfect ergonomics? Down to mirrorless is out question. Down to the size of the SL1 is very unlikely. But could it at least shrink down to the size of a xxxD? Or are we talking more about millimeters, rather than centimeters...

 

[Don Haines]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

How much smaller can it be without loosing its perfect ergonomics?

This is a point that the techno-geeks often miss.... ergonomics! It's easy to make it smaller, but if you lose the "feel", what happens to sales?

Personally, I will probably get a 6D2.....
If it was the same form factor but mirrorless, I would probably get it.....
If it was tiny with the loss of the control buttons/dials/displays, no way! If I really want small form factor, I'd get an M5...

 

[justaCanonuser]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

A DSLR again! Bad news for battery makers... they still have to hug Sony for every new model 8)

 

[tron]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

I hope there was a (subjective unfortunately) BS filter that eliminated even the creation of threads stating ... well not only BS but the obvious as well : : :

OK just wishful thinking

 

[Fleetie]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

The verb is "to LOSE".

 

[Luds34]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

How much smaller can it be without loosing its perfect ergonomics?

This is a point that the techno-geeks often miss.... ergonomics! It's easy to make it smaller, but if you loose the "feel", what happens to sales?

Completely agree. I hope they keep the same body/size/feel/button layout. The 6D fits a good spot of being not quite the crazy pro 5D with joystick, extra rugged, larger size, but still good enough in heft/size and controls to work well with all the full frame glass you're going to mount on the end of it. And that is another point, this is full frame, so lenses are only going to be so small. This is not a Rebel, or SL1 where you can mount smaller lighter lenses.

So please don't try and shrink the 6D too much at all. I say for those you want/need smaller, start shopping the crop mirrorless cameras.

 

[ScottyP]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

How much smaller can it be without loosing its perfect ergonomics?

This is a point that the techno-geeks often miss.... ergonomics! It's easy to make it smaller, but if you loose the "feel", what happens to sales?

Completely agree. I hope they keep the same body/size/feel/button layout. The 6D fits a good spot of being not quite the crazy pro 5D with joystick, extra rugged, larger size, but still good enough in heft/size and controls to work well with all the full frame glass you're going to mount on the end of it. And that is another point, this is full frame, so lenses are only going to be so small. This is not a Rebel, or SL1 where you can mount smaller lighter lenses.

So please don't try and shrink the 6D too much at all. I say for those you want/need smaller, start shopping the crop mirrorless cameras.

Exactly. It is a tool. It needs to be the right size to handle, not the smallest possible size. Pros who presumably know things want a camera like a 1dx with an extra large form factor because they know it works better for them.

Look back a few years to the cell phone trend towards tinier and tinier phones (remember the scene from Zoolander) but you could barely talk on a phone that was too small to reach your ear and your mouth, and of course they were totally unworkable as a smart phone. Now the trend in phones is all about getting larger and larger, boasting about large size.

I don't get the folks wanting a tiny ILC camera. It will never be small enough to fit in a pocket, so why make it just too small to handle well, but not small enough to really give any real offsetting benefit.

 

[heretikeen]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

How much smaller can it be without loosing its perfect ergonomics? Down to mirrorless is out question. Down to the size of the SL1 is very unlikely. But could it at least shrink down to the size of a xxxD? Or are we talking more about millimeters, rather than centimeters...

This. I'm using a 6D with grip and wouldn't want to lose a gram or centimeter of it.

 

[Maiaibing]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

A <a href="http://petapixel.com/2016/12/20/canon-release-mirrorless-full-frame-camera-instead-6d-mark-ii-report/">recent report</a> at PetaPixel that seems to have gained traction suggests that the Canon EOS 6D Mark II will be a full frame mirrorless camera. This report is 100% untrue

Worst rumour ever. Amazed anyone even took notice.

 

[Loswr]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

The verb is "to LOSE".

It's always amusing when the grammar police show up, and are guilty of their own crimes. The proper usage is to have a comma before the quoted text, which then starts with a capital letter and ends with a punctuation mark preceding the closing quotation mark, "Like this."

Your grammatical ineptitude aside, perhaps Don meant just what he wrote. Taking a larger camera that fits comfortably in one's hands, then making it smaller...would make it looser in one's grip, i.e., it would, "Loose the feel..." (ok, it would be 'loosen' but the real point is LIGHTEN UP!).

 

[Canon Rumors]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

The PetaPixel report originated from CW (the other Canon Rumor site) which, IMO, was tipped off by someone who read a thread which was started on DPR and decided to submit a rumor based on theoretical conversation. I commented on CW, saying as much. The thread on DPR had numerous people speculating about what it would be like if the 6D replacement were mirrorless and shortly thereafter, the rumor at CW was posted, which PP picked up. At the time of the DPR thread, I even contemplated posting "I bet this ends up on a rumor site" but didn't. Wish I would have

I have no idea why anyone would run with this, it makes absolutely no sense to replace a DSLR that has sold extremely well with a mirrorless camera (which don't sell well).

 

[Don Haines]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

The verb is "to LOSE".

Typo It has been corrected....

 

[Don Haines]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

The verb is "to LOSE".

It's always amusing when the grammar police show up, and are guilty of their own crimes. The proper usage is to have a comma before the quoted text, which then starts with a capital letter and ends with a punctuation mark preceding the closing quotation mark, "Like this."

Your grammatical ineptitude aside, perhaps Don meant just what he wrote. Taking a larger camera that fits comfortably in one's hands, then making it smaller...would make it looser in one's grip, i.e., it would, "Loose the feel..." (ok, it would be 'loosen' but the real point is LIGHTEN UP!).

Why can't it be both

It would lose the feel, and the feel would be loose....

 

[transpo1]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

How much smaller can it be without loosing its perfect ergonomics?

This is a point that the techno-geeks often miss.... ergonomics! It's easy to make it smaller, but if you lose the "feel", what happens to sales?

Personally, I will probably get a 6D2.....
If it was the same form factor but mirrorless, I would probably get it.....
If it was tiny with the loss of the control buttons/dials/displays, no way! If I really want small form factor, I'd get an M5...

The current 5DIV is actually getting a bit too small. I can see why they did it, as it's competing with smaller mirrorless cameras from Sony and Fuji, but still prefer the heft of earlier 5D models.

What Canon needs to do here is release a new xD FF model that IS mirrorless. It doesn't have to be the 6D.

 

[[email protected]]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

Looking forward to some excellent models from Canon and also by Nikon. Interested in C & N approach to mirrorless going forward, although I'm happy with my DSLR's. Hope that C&N could keep the same sort of body size, Mount (Direct or by Adapter) if possible. Could they as an example keep the same body size as 6D MK / D750 and with the extra room by getting rid of the Mirror put in:-

A) more efficient cooling mechanism to keep the sensor more cool (although may contaminate the Sensor with muck) or a heat sink behind it.

B) Could an extra higher capacitor of battery or dual departments in the camera be used ( e.g., sandwich 2 EN-EL5 (D750 or LP-E6N)

C) or an internal M2 SSD Slot be added to add ultra fast memory and faster WI-fi transfer cards).

N.B not a 100% electronics or Camera geek so my post above may be out of the mark, just want Canon and also Nikon to thrive going forward and to provide excellent competition to other makers like Sony which will benefit us as customers and also to peg costs down.

 

[scrup]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

I just picked up an A7II after no FF mirrorless from Canon. Please do not release one in the next 2 years and stick to DSLRs

 

[vau]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

I seem to be the minority here, but I would love to have a bit less weight and maybe loose a bit of the bump as well. I'm a proud owner of an SL1, and as I'm not a professional, I don't get cramps while using it all thay long. Shooting casually here and there where it excels, and I would love to have a similar one with a FF sensor.

It does matter if its 770 grams or 500 grams imho. I'd put on the 24-105 Sigma or the Canon, buy a 50 mil and I would be the happiest person alive.

There's just no way I can find a decent 17-70 f2.8 for crop these days, which is a shame.

 

[ahsanford]

Re: The EOS 6D Mark II Will Not be a Mirrorless Camera

A <a href="http://petapixel.com/2016/12/20/canon-release-mirrorless-full-frame-camera-instead-6d-mark-ii-report/">recent report</a> at PetaPixel that seems to have gained traction suggests that the Canon EOS 6D Mark II will be a full frame mirrorless camera. This report is 100% untrue, the EOS 6D Mark II, which we expect to announced around May/June of 2017, will be a DSLR.</p>
<p>As for a full frame mirrorless camera, we haven’t seen any solid evidence of one coming in 2017.</p>
<p><em>More to come….</em></p>
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I've been stomping on this terrible CW rumor that has snowballed in the last few days. It's nonsense. Why Canon would abandon that primed pump with a massive technology switch is beyond comprehension.

CW --> Phoblographer --> Petapixel and then the world starting foaming at the mouth. Fake news is a very real thing, people. Just say no.

The 6D2 will (largely) be an 80D with a FF sensor.

FF mirrorless is coming, but it won't supplant a money-maker in the present with the same brand identity. They'll come up with a way to brand it to be sold alongside a similarly spec'd SLR before they ever axe an the mirror altogether, i.e. perhaps sell a future 6D3 alongside a 6D3m.

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