The Follow-Up to the EOS 5D Mark III Will be Called...... [CR2]

[pierlux]

In German we say: "Namen sind Schall und Rauch!"
There's no good translation for it but
"Names! Who cares about names? What's the features?"

How 'bout "Names are smoke and mirrors!" ?
I guess it would be close to the meaning in German.

(Entschuldigung, aber Ich spreche nur tankstellendeutch)

I haven't heard that saying before if it really is one.
But if yes, then it would be the propper translation.
Thank you.

I don't speak German, but shouldn't the proper translation be "names are sound and smoke"?

 

[brad-man]

It doesn't matter. If it had been named the 5DX, it would be a new, fast and sporty camera. Calling the 5D3's successor the 5D4 only continues to demonstrate the lack of innovation over at Canon. This camera is DOA!

 

[Silverstream]

August? I need to upgrade my 5DII and I'm not about to buy a 5DIII while waiting for the Mark IV. Wedding season starts in one month for me, I can't wait til August.

Looks like you'll have to wait.

I would have bought a mkIII over a year ago if I thought it was going to be this long. I too shoot a lot of weddings and am very eager to get this. But a couple of things in general jibe with it being at NAB. First - the reports of the video capabilities being what they are. Second, I think they were planning on a new model last year but the new Sony was such a strong contender that they decided to opt for holding out and adding more. That wait is useful until it goes on too long. They need a great new body NOW and if they wait, they will cut their sales for this unit most likely in the thousands as I'm sure competitors are going to be coming out with new stuff soon too!
They were also going to wait till the 1Dx II started shipping and it is scheduled to this month as well. I am soooo eager for this new camera!!!!!

 

[kaihp]

In German we say: "Namen sind Schall und Rauch!"
There's no good translation for it but
"Names! Who cares about names? What's the features?"

How 'bout "Names are smoke and mirrors!" ?
I guess it would be close to the meaning in German.

(Entschuldigung, aber Ich spreche nur tankstellendeutch)

I haven't heard that saying before if it really is one.
But if yes, then it would be the propper translation.
Thank you.

I don't speak German, but shouldn't the proper translation be "names are sound and smoke"?

That would be the literal translation, yes. However, with proverbs such as this, it is often better to find a different translation, which translates the point better.

Smoke and mirrors is definitely an English saying. I didn't go to look it up until now, and it turns out that the wikipedia entry is actually refering back to the German saying

 

[RGF]

Now that Sony split off their sensors and appear willing to sell the best, right away, to anyone, I really wish Canon would just give up sensors and use Sony. The A7R II sensor in a 5D would be pretty amazing (if they didn't cripple any video usability features).

Okay..... have you noticed that Sony cameras currently deliver a max video
data rate of 100 mbps while the 1D-X Mk II delivers up to 800 Mbps?
UHD 4k high compression against DCI 4k at low compression, and at the
same time applying digital lens optimization to video, frame by frame?

Why in hell should Canon dump that superior technology in favor of the
crappy Sony video capabilities?

Read my lips: The 5D Mk IV will be presented this month.

The DR and IQ out of the A7R II is great. Far superior to any of Canon's offering.

Check this out: http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm
Only the A7 R II and the A7 S have a little more DR than the 1D-X,
and the 1D-X Mk II isn't even in the race.

The difference isn't half as bad as people think, and there is much
more to a system than only DR, which some people seem to focus
like the rabbit focuses the snake.

Radio controlled flash, for example....... professional support,
no overheating problems.....

A7R II is 42 MP, 1Dx is 18 MP. The 5DS has more MP but poorer DR.

Canon has to combine high MP with great DR and IQ. Something they (so far) have failed to accomplish

 

[RGF]

Well,

3000-3500€ the body, 4 years is a great deal to get your investment back. Moreover, I feel like I will not upgrade this time. The 5DMIII is so good for professional purpose, that I do want to change yet. I would rather invest in lenses...

Well, I do not know yet, because... no one know how the 5DMIV will look like!

Take care

I am having a hard time justifying an upgrade unless the 5DMIV is really something special. For high MP I had use either 5DS or A7RII. The 5DM3 is a walk around camera.

 

[RGF]

Read my lips: The 5D Mk IV will be presented this month.

Based on what information?

Talking to people in the know. April, for sure.

Your tasseomancer?

when did you talk to them? 1 April?

 

[RGF]

It doesn't matter. If it had been named the 5DX, it would be a new, fast and sporty camera. Calling the 5D3's successor the 5D4 only continues to demonstrate the lack of innovation over at Canon. This camera is DOA!

YES we MUST just a book by its cover or a camera by its NAME

 

[Ryanide16]

Since Canon is marketing the new 1DX MarkII as " X Mark II: The Mark of Legends", I highly doubt they would apply the X to the 5-series line.

I just picked up the brand new Canon EOS System brochure Vol. 6.01 (printed 2/16). It features the new 1DX Mark II and the 80D, and it still has the 5DIII in the regular line up of current cameras. I doubt they would have printed this if a new 5-series was coming out in the next month or two. I tend to agree it will be closer to September this year, as Photokina makes sense for that type of announcement and promotion.

 

[scottkinfw]

The 5D too late!

 

[KeithBreazeal]

Since Canon is marketing the new 1DX MarkII as " X Mark II: The Mark of Legends", I highly doubt they would apply the X to the 5-series line.

I just picked up the brand new Canon EOS System brochure Vol. 6.01 (printed 2/16). It features the new 1DX Mark II and the 80D, and it still has the 5DIII in the regular line up of current cameras. I doubt they would have printed this if a new 5-series was coming out in the next month or two. I tend to agree it will be closer to September this year, as Photokina makes sense for that type of announcement and promotion.

I'm sticking with my forecast that the 5D III upgrade will inherit some 1DX III features and Canon wants to make a sales run with the 1DX III first.

 

[Loswr]

I'm sticking with my forecast that the 5D III upgrade will inherit some 1DX III features and Canon wants to make a sales run with the 1DX III first.

Are they using the Canon X Mark II Time Machine for that? Where can I preorder the 1D X III?

 

[Orangutan]

I'm sticking with my forecast that the 5D III upgrade will inherit some 1DX III features and Canon wants to make a sales run with the 1DX III first.

Are they using the Canon X Mark II Time Machine for that? Where can I preorder the 1D X III?

http://gizmodo.com/study-people-who-point-out-typos-are-jerks-1767969516

Of course, it's a preliminary result, and replication and further peer-review will be required to confirm.

 

[Schwingi]

August? WTF??!!

There's no rush when you are already so far behind.

It's like the tortoise and the hare, although someone has kneecapped the tortoise and the hare has already crossed the finish line.

;D Nice one!

 

[Loswr]

I'm sticking with my forecast that the 5D III upgrade will inherit some 1DX III features and Canon wants to make a sales run with the 1DX III first.

Are they using the Canon X Mark II Time Machine for that? Where can I preorder the 1D X III?

http://gizmodo.com/study-people-who-point-out-typos-are-jerks-1767969516

Of course, it's a preliminary result, and replication and further peer-review will be required to confirm.

I'm going to go and read this, then consider whether to reply further.

Yahoo Answers: How to deal with people who have no sense of humor?

 

[Orangutan]

I'm sticking with my forecast that the 5D III upgrade will inherit some 1DX III features and Canon wants to make a sales run with the 1DX III first.

Are they using the Canon X Mark II Time Machine for that? Where can I preorder the 1D X III?

http://gizmodo.com/study-people-who-point-out-typos-are-jerks-1767969516

Of course, it's a preliminary result, and replication and further peer-review will be required to confirm.

I'm going to go and read this, then consider whether to reply further.

Yahoo Answers: How to deal with people who have no sense of humor?

It's not that I have no sense of humor, it's that the Interwebs have a distorting effect on humor -- it don't allays come across the way it was intended.

Case in point. Ooops! I just realized I forgot to put at the end of that last post.

 

[Loswr]

I'm sticking with my forecast that the 5D III upgrade will inherit some 1DX III features and Canon wants to make a sales run with the 1DX III first.

Are they using the Canon X Mark II Time Machine for that? Where can I preorder the 1D X III?

http://gizmodo.com/study-people-who-point-out-typos-are-jerks-1767969516

Of course, it's a preliminary result, and replication and further peer-review will be required to confirm.

I'm going to go and read this, then consider whether to reply further.

Yahoo Answers: How to deal with people who have no sense of humor?

It's not that I have no sense of humor, it's that the Interwebs have a distorting effect on humor -- it don't allays come across the way it was intended.

Case in point. Ooops! I just realized I forgot to put at the end of that last post.

Well, it's ok – I can be a jerk. :-X : ???

(See how I covered my bases, there?)

 

[pierlux]

Smoke and mirrors is definitely an English saying. I didn't go to look it up until now, and it turns out that the wikipedia entry is actually refering back to the German saying

I didn't know this metaphor, thanks for the info, always love to learn something new!

 

[whothafunk]

I'm sticking with my forecast that the 5D III upgrade will inherit some 1DX III features and Canon wants to make a sales run with the 1DX III first.

Are they using the Canon X Mark II Time Machine for that? Where can I preorder the 1D X III?

http://gizmodo.com/study-people-who-point-out-typos-are-jerks-1767969516

Of course, it's a preliminary result, and replication and further peer-review will be required to confirm.

I'm going to go and read this, then consider whether to reply further.

Yahoo Answers: How to deal with people who have no sense of humor?

It's not that I have no sense of humor, it's that the Interwebs have a distorting effect on humor -- it don't allays come across the way it was intended.

Case in point. Ooops! I just realized I forgot to put at the end of that last post.

Well, it's ok – I can be a jerk. :-X : ???

(See how I covered my bases, there?)

you two get a room, adolescent kids

 

[jeffa4444]

Now that Sony split off their sensors and appear willing to sell the best, right away, to anyone, I really wish Canon would just give up sensors and use Sony. The A7R II sensor in a 5D would be pretty amazing (if they didn't cripple any video usability features).

Okay..... have you noticed that Sony cameras currently deliver a max video
data rate of 100 mbps while the 1D-X Mk II delivers up to 800 Mbps?
UHD 4k high compression against DCI 4k at low compression, and at the
same time applying digital lens optimization to video, frame by frame?

Why in hell should Canon dump that superior technology in favor of the
crappy Sony video capabilities?

Read my lips: The 5D Mk IV will be presented this month.

The DR and IQ out of the A7R II is great. Far superior to any of Canon's offering.

Check this out: http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm
Only the A7 R II and the A7 S have a little more DR than the 1D-X,
and the 1D-X Mk II isn't even in the race.

The difference isn't half as bad as people think, and there is much
more to a system than only DR, which some people seem to focus
like the rabbit focuses the snake.

Radio controlled flash, for example....... professional support,
no overheating problems.....

A7R II is 42 MP, 1Dx is 18 MP. The 5DS has more MP but poorer DR.

Canon has to combine high MP with great DR and IQ. Something they (so far) have failed to accomplish

The 5DS does have limited DR I certainly noticed it shortcomings on game drives in South Africa last month. However its an amazing camera for heavily cropping retaining great IQ when you do if the images were below 1600ISO. At 100-400ISO nothing can match the IQ in a DSLR that Ive shot with. An everyday walk around FF DSLR from the Canon stable that delivers well above its cost is the 6D, yes its AF is limited compared to the 5D MKII but IQ is nor compromised and Ive never felt I need to move to Sony whilst I have the 5DS and the 6D especially with lenses like the EF16-35mm f4L IS USM, EF 100mm f2.8L IS USM Macro, EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6L IS USM II etc.