The New Rebels Will be Called the 760D and 750D

[rrcphoto]

The 24MP sensor is what jumps out at me. That's a whole new animal for Canon. Did they make it? Did Sony? Did Nintendo?

We got a DPAF 20.2MP 70D, semi-flagship not long ago. Then the DPAF "tweaked up" 20.2MP 7D2 full flagship

And now along comes this lil' Rebel with 24MP??? Uhh-k.

makes sense really - the pixel structure is much more simpler without the dual pixel stuff in it. it also follows what canon was saying about the DP sensors - that they were expensive to fabricate. It would make sense then why it's not on the rebel (or the M3).

the 70D is nearly EOL. it may just be the last xxD body if the rebel starts to have a lot of it's features. canon could be trying to slim down the number of APS-C bodies it sells.

I guess we'll see if the 760D has a pentaprism versus a mirror.

 

[NorbR]

So Canon will announce 4 different cameras on the same day? Actually, make that 5, if the M3 comes as well? This still baffles me ... Not to mention that those are really not your run-of-the-mill minor upgrades, a la "look how the mode dial rotates all the way now" 700D announcement. The 5Ds is a whole new animal for Canon, and if those specs are to be believed, the Rebel line is pretty much going to be entirely revisited.

Canon's really looking to make a big splash in one day, I guess. But hey, I'm not complaining, and as I have no real intention to buy any of these cameras (when my GAS gets the better of me, feel free to point me back to this message ...), I'm awaiting the official announcements with nothing but curiosity and excitement.

 

[brianodell]

How will this new Rebel stack up against the $1k 70d?

 

[rrcphoto]

total random musing.. what if one of those rebels is using a full frame sensor?

nothing ever says that rebels MUST stick with APS-C.

that would almost then make the two models make a little sense - as well as the 24-105 IS STM full frame lens.

 

[Zv]

The 24MP sensor is what jumps out at me. That's a whole new animal for Canon. Did they make it? Did Sony? Did Nintendo?

We got a DPAF 20.2MP 70D, semi-flagship not long ago. Then the DPAF "tweaked up" 20.2MP 7D2 full flagship

And now along comes this lil' Rebel with 24MP??? Uhh-k.

makes sense really - the pixel structure is much more simpler without the dual pixel stuff in it. it also follows what canon was saying about the DP sensors - that they were expensive to fabricate. It would make sense then why it's not on the rebel (or the M3).

the 70D is nearly EOL. it may just be the last xxD body if the rebel starts to have a lot of it's features. canon could be trying to slim down the number of APS-C bodies it sells.

I guess we'll see if the 760D has a pentaprism versus a mirror.

I don't think they'll have just two APS-C offerings, there is a need for the xxD line. Some people need a camera that's in between the beastly 7DII with it's machine gun like 10fps and tank build and their entry level camera that almost every tourist and their kid owns. The rebels are physically smaller than the xxD line too making it uncomfortable for some. The 70D is the Goldilocks camera for many. Just enough features and not too much overkill. Seriously, I feel like I'm talking myself into buying one now!

I need to get off this forum for a while! But so many cameras coming soon! Aaaaarrgggh!! ;D

 

[Zv]

total random musing.. what if one of those rebels is using a full frame sensor?

nothing ever says that rebels MUST stick with APS-C.

that would almost then make the two models make a little sense - as well as the 24-105 IS STM full frame lens.

They did that already and called it a 6D.

 

[rrcphoto]

total random musing.. what if one of those rebels is using a full frame sensor?

nothing ever says that rebels MUST stick with APS-C.

that would almost then make the two models make a little sense - as well as the 24-105 IS STM full frame lens.

They did that already and called it a 6D.

a 6D is most certainly not a rebel. different pentaprism/mirror, chassis construction, ergonomics.

 

[Khufu]

24mp?...

The 61.44mp 6DS should arrive in time for Summer then, woo!

 

[filipe]

I wonder, for instance, the pricing of the Canon 760D in relation to the 70D, if it has rear dial and top LCD?


Wonder if the sensor is Sony and the crop factor?

 

[PureClassA]

The 24MP sensor is what jumps out at me. That's a whole new animal for Canon. Did they make it? Did Sony? Did Nintendo?

We got a DPAF 20.2MP 70D, semi-flagship not long ago. Then the DPAF "tweaked up" 20.2MP 7D2 full flagship

And now along comes this lil' Rebel with 24MP??? Uhh-k.

makes sense really - the pixel structure is much more simpler without the dual pixel stuff in it. it also follows what canon was saying about the DP sensors - that they were expensive to fabricate. It would make sense then why it's not on the rebel (or the M3).

the 70D is nearly EOL. it may just be the last xxD body if the rebel starts to have a lot of it's features. canon could be trying to slim down the number of APS-C bodies it sells.

I guess we'll see if the 760D has a pentaprism versus a mirror.

I agree with no DPAF, I was just wondering whether this is Sony or not. This is a totally new sensor for Canon (if they actually made it themselves), and we would certainly not get a 24MP sensor with DPAF right after the 70D and 7D2 at 20.2. Color me intrigued.

 

[rrcphoto]

The 24MP sensor is what jumps out at me. That's a whole new animal for Canon. Did they make it? Did Sony? Did Nintendo?

We got a DPAF 20.2MP 70D, semi-flagship not long ago. Then the DPAF "tweaked up" 20.2MP 7D2 full flagship

And now along comes this lil' Rebel with 24MP??? Uhh-k.

makes sense really - the pixel structure is much more simpler without the dual pixel stuff in it. it also follows what canon was saying about the DP sensors - that they were expensive to fabricate. It would make sense then why it's not on the rebel (or the M3).

the 70D is nearly EOL. it may just be the last xxD body if the rebel starts to have a lot of it's features. canon could be trying to slim down the number of APS-C bodies it sells.

I guess we'll see if the 760D has a pentaprism versus a mirror.

I agree with no DPAF, I was just wondering whether this is Sony or not. This is a totally new sensor for Canon (if they actually made it themselves), and we would certainly not get a 24MP sensor with DPAF right after the 70D and 7D2 at 20.2. Color me intrigued.

well considering that the Sony is 24Mp at 1.5 crop - wouldn't make much sense for it to be 24Mp at 1.6 crop.

 

[MacPaul]

19 cross-type AF point system

Finally, better AF for the Rebels. Nikon has it since…well, since when? A decade? ;-)

 

[Zv]

total random musing.. what if one of those rebels is using a full frame sensor?

nothing ever says that rebels MUST stick with APS-C.

that would almost then make the two models make a little sense - as well as the 24-105 IS STM full frame lens.

They did that already and called it a 6D.

a 6D is most certainly not a rebel. different pentaprism/mirror, chassis construction, ergonomics.

You're right. Even the rebel has 19 cross type AF points now darn it!

 

[Khufu]

19 cross-type AF point system

Finally, better AF for the Rebels. Nikon has it since…well, since when? A decade? ;-)

This is what the 70D has, right? If it's as responsive, this might be a great little camera! I've no need for APS-C beyond the 70D capabilities, perhaps the 750/760D is going to be the new "good enough" camera for many?!

...though to be honest I enjoyed shooting Birds in Flight with the 70D for a while but the 100D and EOS M are, for most applications, "more than good enough" APS-C shooters in my world!

 

[Luds34]

The 24MP sensor is what jumps out at me. That's a whole new animal for Canon. Did they make it? Did Sony? Did Nintendo?

We got a DPAF 20.2MP 70D, semi-flagship not long ago. Then the DPAF "tweaked up" 20.2MP 7D2 full flagship

And now along comes this lil' Rebel with 24MP??? Uhh-k.

makes sense really - the pixel structure is much more simpler without the dual pixel stuff in it. it also follows what canon was saying about the DP sensors - that they were expensive to fabricate. It would make sense then why it's not on the rebel (or the M3).

the 70D is nearly EOL. it may just be the last xxD body if the rebel starts to have a lot of it's features. canon could be trying to slim down the number of APS-C bodies it sells.

I guess we'll see if the 760D has a pentaprism versus a mirror.

I don't think they'll have just two APS-C offerings, there is a need for the xxD line. Some people need a camera that's in between the beastly 7DII with it's machine gun like 10fps and tank build and their entry level camera that almost every tourist and their kid owns. The rebels are physically smaller than the xxD line too making it uncomfortable for some. The 70D is the Goldilocks camera for many. Just enough features and not too much overkill. Seriously, I feel like I'm talking myself into buying one now!

I need to get off this forum for a while! But so many cameras coming soon! Aaaaarrgggh!! ;D

+1

I especially like the Goldilocks analogy. And as great as the 7D is, it is still more of a specialize camera, where as the 70D, with flippy screen, touch screen, etc. seems like it might appeal more to a boarder audience.

 

[tphillips63]

So, in NA is one the T6 and the other the T6i?

 

[Luds34]

Like others, I'm still trying to understand what the real differences are between the two. Certainly Canon didn't need to have a separate model just to upsell for a rear dial.

 

[Famateur]

Hybrid CMOS III AF... Looks like DPAF is the line in the sand, then, between Rebels and the higher-tier bodies.

I wonder if the same will go for the M3. Would be a shame not to have DPAF -- it seems like the perfect application (outside of video, of course).

If the M3 doesn't have DPAF, I would bet it's an Asian market product only, like the M2.

 

[Marsu42]

Like others, I'm still trying to understand what the real differences are between the two. Certainly Canon didn't need to have a separate model just to upsell for a rear dial.

... and for the top lcd, probably coupled with less fw crippling than the 750d.

Imho don't underestimate the thin profit margins in this segment, if they can offer a "basic" model and manage to upsell most customers €50-€100 for parts that cost them €5 that's a real difference given the large market size.

 

[preppyak]

I especially like the Goldilocks analogy. And as great as the 7D is, it is still more of a specialize camera, where as the 70D, with flippy screen, touch screen, etc. seems like it might appeal more to a boarder audience.

Yep, I like the frame rate of my 60D vs what the T2i/T3i had at the time, but, I do enough landscape and night work that not having the swivel screen of the 60D vs the 7D was a dealbreaker.

Also, there's price considerations as well. I gladly paid $1-200 more than a T3i for the build, top LCD, and other features of the 60D. But, i wasnt ready to pay $5-600 more than a T3i for a 7D. That's an extra quality lens right there