to all the Megapixel and DR whiners....

[Lichtgestalt]

i wonder why don´t you just go to CHANGE.ORG and create a petition to canon?

instead you waste days of your lifetime whining and complaining on a forum no canon official (who has something to say) visits.

nobody from you has enough energy to do somenthing that at least has a small chance to be usefull?

 

[sandymandy]

perhaps we should really do a kickstarter campaign. i mean some games get like over 20mio$. what if we can present canon with over 20mio (could be way more) to finally present us a mirrorless?

 

[Pi]

I believe that whining is more effective. It spreads quickly (this is the Internet) and it will hit Canon where it hurts, in the pocket.

 

[Ricku]

Pretty pointless thread don't you think? Remember how the AF-crowd cried their hearts out about the 5D2 AF? Well, look what that got them. :

Flaws are meant to be whined at, or no change will come.

 

[sanj]

Pretty pointless thread don't you think? Remember how the AF-crowd cried their hearts out about the 5D2 AF? Well, look what that got them. :

Flaws are meant to be whined at, or no change will come.

I believe OP is recommending whining, just with who he thinks the 'right' people are.

 

[Lichtgestalt]

Pretty pointless thread don't you think?

well sure not as pointless as the endless MP and DR postings here. :
isn´t it be better to complain where (maybe) someone listen to what you have to say?

make a petition on change.org... it sure has greater impact as ankorwats former ramblings here. ;D

I believe that whining is more effective. It spreads quickly (this is the Internet) and it will hit Canon where it hurts, in the pocket.

yeah well you might check that again.

all the mentioned whining about the 5D MK2 autofocus did not bother canon at all.
the 5D MK2 sold like hot cakes. and the 5D MK3 sells very well... despite only 22 MP and oh so mediocre DR.

the funny thing is... the fantasys about what people achieve with whining and the reality is so contrary.

a few hundred hardcore geeks on a internet forum are nothing compared to the number of customers out there.

 

[Pi]

all the mentioned whining about the 5D MK2 autofocus did not bother canon at all.

It did. We got the 5D2 with a new AF and the same mediocre sensor.

Then people started whining about "too many pixels", and the "stupid mp war". You know what followed.

 

[Lichtgestalt]

all the mentioned whining about the 5D MK2 autofocus did not bother canon at all.

It did. We got the 5D2 with a new AF and the same mediocre sensor.

ROTFL... so you think canon would not have improved the AF otherwise? ;D

you may think about this again.. competition with other brands may play a more important role here then a few unsatisfied forum users.

and there is the 6D autofocus.. how you explain that?
after all it should have at least an AF like the 7D ... not?

canon must be very bad at learning when they "learend their lesson" from the 5D MK2 but could not translate that to the 6D.

i think canon does what it thinks makes economical sense and has a close look on what the competition does.

 

[chilledXpress]

I can hear veins popping and certain CR members are already convulsing... once the seizures subside the DRoning will commence. It's easier to whine, shake your fists in the air and threaten to jump ship than it is to actually sell your gear and jump ship.

 

[9VIII]

This is Canonrumors.com, I stand by my right to type out words with no logical foundation.

Next year, Canon will release a 52MP Medium Format Compact Camera! For $500!

Vive la Rumors!

 

[Pi]

all the mentioned whining about the 5D MK2 autofocus did not bother canon at all.

It did. We got the 5D2 with a new AF and the same mediocre sensor.

ROTFL... so you think canon would not have improved the AF otherwise? ;D

In your mind, this proves that Canon did not listen?

you may think about this again.. competition with other brands may play a more important role here then a few unsatisfied forum users.

Exactly, and this is what the whining was for. With the new models, the roles got reversed. Canon got new AF, Nikon got more mp.

and there is the 6D autofocus.. how you explain that?

A low priced model. What is it here to explain?

 

[Lichtgestalt]

i see.. the whiners prefer to spend yet another day writing stuff nobody cares about instead of taking the few minutes to create a petition. ;D

imo... that shows how much you really care.

Exactly, and this is what the whining was for. With the new models, the roles got reversed. Canon got new AF, Nikon got more mp.

it´s natural that things try to get in balance.
most people don´t want a 2 MP camera with the best AF.
so of course companys work on their weak points.

you sound like you think the whiners are the reason why canon is doing R&D.

A low priced model. What is it here to explain?

all the 5D MK2 AF whiners could have bought a more expensive camera with better AF?
is that your argumentation?

the "community" in internet forums is not very happy with the 6D AF.
so why did canon not make them happy?
after all.... canon should have seen that coming after they read/heard complains about the 5D MK2 AF. not?

so isn´t that in opposition to what you think happend?
or has canon to learn each time from scratch? endless complains.. endless whining....

to me it seems proof that canon has more important things to consider then what a few forum user want.

 

[Loswr]

you sound like you think the whiners are the reason why canon is doing R&D.

The whiners are the target of some of Canon's R&D. Apparently you're unaware of Canon's clandestine research program. I think most people are unaware of it, and the few that run across it assume it's to support the US Military, based on the project's code name. While it makes sense that people would just assume it's a typo, it's named as Canon intends it: Project DRone Strike.

 

[distant.star]

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Those who whine about whiners are the whiniest whiners of them all.

 

[zim]

the "community" in internet forums is not very happy with the 6D AF.
so why did canon not make them happy?
after all.... canon should have seen that coming after they read/heard complains about the 5D MK2 AF. not?

Canon will make them happy, eventually. Guess what the 6D2 will improve on! will it be incremental, 11 cross points or get the 7D AF treatment who knows. They have given themselves lots of wiggle room and created a line with mileage. It’s about getting people to buy stuff but always wanting to come back for more, they are very very good at it.

 

[Lichtgestalt]

the "community" in internet forums is not very happy with the 6D AF.
so why did canon not make them happy?
after all.... canon should have seen that coming after they read/heard complains about the 5D MK2 AF. not?

Canon will make them happy, eventually. Guess what the 6D2 will improve on! will it be incremental, 11 cross points or get the 7D AF treatment who knows.

yeah and some people will think "look that´s what i have achieved with my constant whining on internet forums".

like in the dark ages, they still don´t realize the universe is not rotating around them.

 

[chilledXpress]

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[AmbientLight]

the "community" in internet forums is not very happy with the 6D AF.
so why did canon not make them happy?
after all.... canon should have seen that coming after they read/heard complains about the 5D MK2 AF. not?

Canon will make them happy, eventually. Guess what the 6D2 will improve on! will it be incremental, 11 cross points or get the 7D AF treatment who knows.

yeah and some people will think "look that´s what i have achieved with my constant whining on internet forums".

like in the dark ages, they still don´t realize the universe is not rotating around them.

I don't know why no one else has brought this one up, but here it is:
Canon actually sends questionnaires to get feedback regarding their camera products, at least for the 1D series.

We therefore cannot assume that Canon does not care regarding consumer feedback. Therefore whining on a forum or elsewhere may indeed be productive. I wouldn't want to underestimate the impact of what is essentially a user forum. Indeed there is only one such forum anyway. There are not dozens of competing forums, which is what has led all of us here.

 

[scottkinfw]

I must be collateral damage!

I'm going to slam my head against the wall until my 5D3 produces 100MP with huge DR. I'm going nuts with whining already!!!!!!!

Make it stop.

sek

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you sound like you think the whiners are the reason why canon is doing R&D.

The whiners are the target of some of Canon's R&D. Apparently you're unaware of Canon's clandestine research program. I think most people are unaware of it, and the few that run across it assume it's to support the US Military, based on the project's code name. While it makes sense that people would just assume it's a typo, it's named as Canon intends it: Project DRone Strike.

 

[Loswr]

like in the dark ages, they still don´t realize the universe is not rotating around them.

All here know that the twin centers of the universe are the headquarters of Sony and Nikon, one the pinnacle of highlight, the other the nadir of shadow, between them defining the greatest and most puissant Dynamic Range ever imaginable.

Take your Copernican heresy elsewhere.