Unreleased Canon Gear Has Appeared for Certification

[SweOz]

If Canon can make an 85mm f/1.4 lens with IS, maybe it can make a 50mm f/1.4 lens with IS as well.

How about a new version of the 50mm 1.2 WITH AF? I mean AF that works at all distances, f/stops, and fast enough to catch a portrait of somebody sitting still.

L primes are too expensive for me, but if Canon gives the 50mm f/1.4 & 85mm f/1.8 the 24-28-35mm treatment, I'll buy 'em both.

I love how people who don't own or have never used the 50mm f/1.2 L poo poo this lens all the time My copy focus very well and is superb for its intended use.
For fast action requiring a super fast focus I use my 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II

The 50mm f/1.2 L is a piece of crap ....... its propose was to screw you over! ...... Than announces they will be coming out with a new 50mm f/1.2 L II .....WTF? Cause they want to screw you over again!

You just keep trolling and using your ef-s 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 XVII and off-brand semi functioning glass and I keep enjoying my L-glass collection and the image quality it's producing

 

[Ozarker]

If Canon can make an 85mm f/1.4 lens with IS, maybe it can make a 50mm f/1.4 lens with IS as well.

How about a new version of the 50mm 1.2 WITH AF? I mean AF that works at all distances, f/stops, and fast enough to catch a portrait of somebody sitting still.

L primes are too expensive for me, but if Canon gives the 50mm f/1.4 & 85mm f/1.8 the 24-28-35mm treatment, I'll buy 'em both.

I love how people who don't own or have never used the 50mm f/1.2 L poo poo this lens all the time My copy focus very well and is superb for its intended use.
For fast action requiring a super fast focus I use my 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II

The 50mm f/1.2 L is a piece of crap ....... its propose was to screw you over! ...... Than announces they will be coming out with a new 50mm f/1.2 L II .....WTF? Cause they want to screw you over again!

I thought you were a troll. Now I know you are a troll. Things a little boring at the Sony forums?

 

[dak723]

Why would you go even deeper with canon gear when Sony is offering a bit better IQ and PRO functions that Canon refuses to offer there fan boys?

Because we are not suckers like you who fall for all the Sony hype!

Oh, I forgot - you are a TROLL!

 

[jdavidse]

Why would you go even deeper with canon gear when Sony is offering a bit better IQ and PRO functions that Canon refuses to offer there fan boys?

*their

 

[Ozarker]

Why would you go even deeper with canon gear when Sony is offering a bit better IQ and PRO functions that Canon refuses to offer there fan boys?

Thank you for your valuable input Sony fanboy

Well said Mike ......Sony camera are to small and anyone that thinks its no problem, must have Tiny Hands like Donald Trump.

I'm sure Donald would say its a Great, Fantastic Terrific camera size .... See look how it fits my tiny hands.

Yeah, he's a confused soul. He dumps all over Sony just for the politics of it all.

 

[bdunbar79]

Why would you go even deeper with canon gear when Sony is offering a bit better IQ and PRO functions that Canon refuses to offer there fan boys?

This "fan boy" is very satisfied with Canon's gear and top-notch customer service.

As for Sony, not sure how deep I'd commit to a company that has had so many spectacular tech failures that become useless paperweights. Betamax, VAIO computers, Trinitron TV's, LCD TV's, OLED TV's, Walkman, PSPgo...They seem to push out products just to keep their R&D and marketing departments viable and relevant but without any clear mission or patience.

So, when it comes to committing to more than just a fun camera that may or may not have service support, including parts, no thanks. Hover boards are cool toys, but I'll stick with my trusty Honda sedan, thank you.

Fact are Facts ..... Your opinion wont and cant overthrow the fact Sony has better Glass, tools and output that is better than canon.

Oh yeah, all that Sony gear lining the NFL sidelines. Boy you say some stupid things.

You saying Canon glass is better than Zeiss?

Your smoking Crack boy!

Yes, Zeiss glass SUCKS for a sports photog. Sucks. Plus, you said Sony. Sony sucks too.

 

[mahdi_mak2000]

canon should make some real fast lenses for M series before they make any full frame ML. I hate adapter

 

[rwvaughn]

Now Ricky, you're getting delusional again.

Don't feed the troll... Arguing with a Sony fan boy is like playing chess with a pigeon... no matter how good you are the bird poops on the board and struts around like it won anyway.

 

[Woody]

Interchangeable lens 2 (The EF-S 18-55 f/4-5.6 IS STM in Different Colors)
SKU: 2273C005AA, 2274C005AA, 2275C005AA
It is unknown whether the colorfulness is three colors or different lenses
Made in Malaysia

I have the EF-S 18-55 f/4-5.6 IS STM lens and it's made in Taiwan, not Malaysia.

I guess this is the new EF-M kit lens in different colors.

Or, hopefully, a bunch of different EF-M/EF-S lenses.

 

[Antono Refa]

L primes are too expensive for me, but if Canon gives the 50mm f/1.4 & 85mm f/1.8 the 24-28-35mm treatment, I'll buy 'em both.

Be careful what you wish for. The 24mm and 28mm are f/2.8 after all

All three have the same max aperture as the previous models, so the new 35mm is f/2.

 

[Antono Refa]

If Canon can make an 85mm f/1.4 lens with IS, maybe it can make a 50mm f/1.4 lens with IS as well.

How about a new version of the 50mm 1.2 WITH AF? I mean AF that works at all distances, f/stops, and fast enough to catch a portrait of somebody sitting still.

L primes are too expensive for me, but if Canon gives the 50mm f/1.4 & 85mm f/1.8 the 24-28-35mm treatment, I'll buy 'em both.

I've always wondered whether sales of the 24-28-35 trio have met Canon's expections, or even come close.

I do not know.

I have the 28mm, but I got it before the 16-35 f4 made its appearance. I like the 28, but the 16-35 is on the camera much more of the time. I don't regret buying the 28mm, but I don't think I would have gotten it if the 16-35 f4 had been available at the time, or if I had had the 24-70 f2.8II.

I have f/2.8 L zooms, but sometimes I photo people (read: handheld, normal to medium telephoto) in lighting conditions that require 1/10s @ ISO 12,800 @ f/2.8 (from a photo four years ago, taken on a roof top at night, lit by candles & full moon).

IS helps at those conditions. Adding f/1.4-1.8 and a lighter lens would help even more.

 

[LonelyBoy]

Why would you go even deeper with canon gear when Sony is offering a bit better IQ and PRO functions that Canon refuses to offer there fan boys?

This "fan boy" is very satisfied with Canon's gear and top-notch customer service.

As for Sony, not sure how deep I'd commit to a company that has had so many spectacular tech failures that become useless paperweights. Betamax, VAIO computers, Trinitron TV's, LCD TV's, OLED TV's, Walkman, PSPgo...They seem to push out products just to keep their R&D and marketing departments viable and relevant but without any clear mission or patience.

So, when it comes to committing to more than just a fun camera that may or may not have service support, including parts, no thanks. Hover boards are cool toys, but I'll stick with my trusty Honda sedan, thank you.

I don't know that I'd call those all failures - Trinitron tubes (I had a monitor and relatives had TVs) produced awesome pictures. I've had two of their LCD TVs and loved both. Betamax lost in the market, but wasn't pushed out "without any clear mission". Walkmans were successful for a long time.

And critically, many of the above differ from cameras in that they're single-time purchases. If your Walkman breaks, your CDs work elsewhere. If your TV breaks, your next one can be another brand. Neither needs a collection of available lenses and other accessories. Which, even just in the camera space, Sony has a track record of abandoning.

I'm very likely about to buy a third Sony LCD TV. I'd never invest into their cameras as a system, only a body for adapting old lenses if I got the desire to play with that.

 

[BeenThere]

I too have toyed with the idea of getting an A7rII with metabones for the great sensor IQ. But, the ergonomics and very poor menu system keeps turning me off (even for occasional use).

 

[YuengLinger]

Why would you go even deeper with canon gear when Sony is offering a bit better IQ and PRO functions that Canon refuses to offer there fan boys?

This "fan boy" is very satisfied with Canon's gear and top-notch customer service.

As for Sony, not sure how deep I'd commit to a company that has had so many spectacular tech failures that become useless paperweights. Betamax, VAIO computers, Trinitron TV's, LCD TV's, OLED TV's, Walkman, PSPgo...They seem to push out products just to keep their R&D and marketing departments viable and relevant but without any clear mission or patience.

So, when it comes to committing to more than just a fun camera that may or may not have service support, including parts, no thanks. Hover boards are cool toys, but I'll stick with my trusty Honda sedan, thank you.

I don't know that I'd call those all failures - Trinitron tubes (I had a monitor and relatives had TVs) produced awesome pictures. I've had two of their LCD TVs and loved both. Betamax lost in the market, but wasn't pushed out "without any clear mission". Walkmans were successful for a long time.

And critically, many of the above differ from cameras in that they're single-time purchases. If your Walkman breaks, your CDs work elsewhere. If your TV breaks, your next one can be another brand. Neither needs a collection of available lenses and other accessories. Which, even just in the camera space, Sony has a track record of abandoning.

I'm very likely about to buy a third Sony LCD TV. I'd never invest into their cameras as a system, only a body for adapting old lenses if I got the desire to play with that.

You're right--"failures" was the wrong word. I was trying to convey that Sony has a history of hits that it either abandons or lets get run over by other companies innovating. Their VAIO PC's are an example, though Sony wasn't a villain, just shortsighted for plunging deeply into a product line that couldn't survive PC's becoming a commodity rather than a special purchase followed by buying more accessories, etc.

A point and shoot? Sure. But to invest lots of money and faith into bodies, lenses, and flashes (?), I want a solid, dedicated company that has a long history of steady improvement of products, along with very reliable service. Canon is not perfect, but compared to competitors, in my opinion, definitely a solid company to "commit" to.

As for TV's, as Sony no longer makes their own panels, I don't see the point of paying a licensing fee on top of the usual cost to buy an LG, Samsung, Vizio, etc.

 

[infared]

I am just keeping my 85mm f/1.2L II. Love that lens! 8)

 

[Woody]

I too have toyed with the idea of getting an A7rII with metabones for the great sensor IQ. But, the ergonomics and very poor menu system keeps turning me off (even for occasional use).

Agreed. Totally.

I played with the Sony A7s cameras in my company several times: the ergonomics and menu system are downright awful.

 

[YuengLinger]

If Canon can make an 85mm f/1.4 lens with IS, maybe it can make a 50mm f/1.4 lens with IS as well.

How about a new version of the 50mm 1.2 WITH AF? I mean AF that works at all distances, f/stops, and fast enough to catch a portrait of somebody sitting still.

L primes are too expensive for me, but if Canon gives the 50mm f/1.4 & 85mm f/1.8 the 24-28-35mm treatment, I'll buy 'em both.

I love how people who don't own or have never used the 50mm f/1.2 L poo poo this lens all the time My copy focus very well and is superb for its intended use.
For fast action requiring a super fast focus I use my 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II

Unfortunately, with its focus shift, its "intended use" excludes accurate AF or MF at f/1.4 - f/4 within six feet. And from the many, many samples I've pored over, too many of which include horrid over-sharpening, nailing focus on eyes in portraits is something like winning the lottery.

 

[RunAndGun]

This "fan boy" is very satisfied with Canon's gear and top-notch customer service.

As for Sony, not sure how deep I'd commit to a company that has had so many spectacular tech failures that become useless paperweights. Betamax, VAIO computers, Trinitron TV's, LCD TV's, OLED TV's, Walkman, PSPgo...They seem to push out products just to keep their R&D and marketing departments viable and relevant but without any clear mission or patience.

So, when it comes to committing to more than just a fun camera that may or may not have service support, including parts, no thanks. Hover boards are cool toys, but I'll stick with my trusty Honda sedan, thank you.

What? Do you mean the tech itself was a failure or there just wasn't consumer up-take/acceptance?

Betamax was technically superior to VHS and while consumer acceptance wasn't there, it was the consumer forerunner of the professional/broadcast format, Betacam SP, that was the de facto industry standard for DECADES.

I had a friend that was a computer tech and he said that the VAIO line from Sony was great. Damn near bulletproof, compared to a lot of others back then. I can't personally vouch, but I knew a lot of people that owned them, too.

Trinitron TV's. Really? That's laughable.

LCD and OLED TV's. My first HD set was a Sony rear projection LCD and it was great for 2004. Served me well for many years, then one of my friends for many more after that. As far as OLED, yeah, now that Sony FINALLY decided to get in on the consumer side, their consumer panels come from LG. But the first OLED that I owned was a professional/broadcast OLED monitor from Sony. I still own it and I still consider it my reference monitor. The last time I had it calibrated, it specced out almost as good before calibration as after.

Walkman. Seriously?! When I read that, I could't tell if you were just trying to be funny or not. That is one of the silliest things I've ever read. The Walkman arguably started the personal, portable music industry/craze decades ago(think 70's/80's). Who here didn't own or didn't know someone who owned a Walkman cassette player and/or/then a Walkman CD player?

PSPGO. Well, maybe. The PSP was great, I owned one and liked it until it just died on me way to soon.

 

[YuengLinger]

This "fan boy" is very satisfied with Canon's gear and top-notch customer service.

As for Sony, not sure how deep I'd commit to a company that has had so many spectacular tech failures that become useless paperweights. Betamax, VAIO computers, Trinitron TV's, LCD TV's, OLED TV's, Walkman, PSPgo...They seem to push out products just to keep their R&D and marketing departments viable and relevant but without any clear mission or patience.

So, when it comes to committing to more than just a fun camera that may or may not have service support, including parts, no thanks. Hover boards are cool toys, but I'll stick with my trusty Honda sedan, thank you.

What? Do you mean the tech itself was a failure or there just wasn't consumer up-take/acceptance?

Betamax was technically superior to VHS and while consumer acceptance wasn't there, it was the consumer forerunner of the professional/broadcast format, Betacam SP, that was the de facto industry standard for DECADES.

I had a friend that was a computer tech and he said that the VAIO line from Sony was great. Damn near bulletproof, compared to a lot of others back then. I can't personally vouch, but I knew a lot of people that owned them, too.

Trinitron TV's. Really? That's laughable.

LCD and OLED TV's. My first HD set was a Sony rear projection LCD and it was great for 2004. Served me well for many years, then one of my friends for many more after that. As far as OLED, yeah, now that Sony FINALLY decided to get in on the consumer side, their consumer panels come from LG. But the first OLED that I owned was a professional/broadcast OLED monitor from Sony. I still own it and I still consider it my reference monitor. The last time I had it calibrated, it specced out almost as good before calibration as after.

Walkman. Seriously?! When I read that, I could't tell if you were just trying to be funny or not. That is one of the silliest things I've ever read. The Walkman arguably started the personal, portable music industry/craze decades ago(think 70's/80's). Who here didn't own or didn't know someone who owned a Walkman cassette player and/or/then a Walkman CD player?

PSPGO. Well, maybe. The PSP was great, I owned one and liked it until it just died on me way to soon.

You are one of the faithful, so go all in on a Sony body, lenses, and flashes(?)!

I can't argue with you about Sony producing "technically superior" products. The Betamax of decades back was just misunderstood, as are Sony's best-in-class sensors today. Problem is, Sony's products are tops today, gone tomorrow.

Apparently you missed my follow-up post, but that's ok, you were upset about reminding people that Sony does not commit long-term to their products in the way serious camera companies do.

If I need my 5D III serviced, I have no doubts, no concerns, and I know I'll have it back in a week! Same with any lens or flash I own. Just like driving to the Honda dealer with my Accord. Just like that.

Canon has been focused for decades on selling gear that photographers buy and use professionally and passionately and get serviced quickly when required. Sony? The new kid on the block, is that what we're peddling here today?

 

[LonelyBoy]

You're right--"failures" was the wrong word. I was trying to convey that Sony has a history of hits that it either abandons or lets get run over by other companies innovating. Their VAIO PC's are an example, though Sony wasn't a villain, just shortsighted for plunging deeply into a product line that couldn't survive PC's becoming a commodity rather than a special purchase followed by buying more accessories, etc.

A point and shoot? Sure. But to invest lots of money and faith into bodies, lenses, and flashes (?), I want a solid, dedicated company that has a long history of steady improvement of products, along with very reliable service. Canon is not perfect, but compared to competitors, in my opinion, definitely a solid company to "commit" to.

As for TV's, as Sony no longer makes their own panels, I don't see the point of paying a licensing fee on top of the usual cost to buy an LG, Samsung, Vizio, etc.

I did allude to that difference between a P&S and an ILC system when I was talking about TVs. And, while Sony doesn't make their own panels... basically no one else does either. You don't buy TVs from AUO, CMO, or the other panel manufacturers in China. You play the same lottery about which factory it came from with Samsung, and I believe LG as well. And there are qualitative differences that might induce you to pay more, which may or may not be important to you, but the XBR850E is not just the MU6300 with a surcharge.

That's all off-topic though. The bottom line is, in this arena, the only thing I'd get a Sony for is adapting old lenses, because I specifically do not trust them to maintain a stable camera system year after year. I have complete faith, on the other hand, that Canon will give me as much as anyone else to work with.