What should I upgrade? I can't be done, can I?

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I have about $870 in cash (and that figure will grow with time) and I'd sell whatever lens I would upgrade...

First things first - gear:
Bodies:
I have a 5D mkiii that I'm VERY happy with and as I have stated before, I don't think I would upgrade to the mkiv regardless of how much of an upgrade it is over the mkiii. I also picked up an Xti for my daughter for around $15 so I have a back up (Ferrari to a Pinto) if the mkiii temporarily dies on me. I doubt I'll ever use the xti, but it is good to have.

Lenses in order of focal length:
Rokinon 8mm fisheye lens. I don't really do much fisheye photography... but it is fun to bend light from time to time. I'd actually like to get a extension tube so I can get MFD down to zero and also turn the fisheye from semi-circular to where the image covers the entire frame. I have zero interest in upgrading this lens to a better fisheye (Sigma or Canon).

24-105mm f/4L IS USM. I think this is the likely candidate for upgrade. 24mm is more than wide enough for my purposes and while I might be interested in doing some free-lance real-estate images (and 24mm isn't wide enough), I would do it if I could use their lenses but I don't want to invest in a 16-35 or a 17-40 because I WOULDN'T USE IT personally. I have zero interest in the 24-70 f/4L IS Macro. I think the logical upgrade is to the 24-70mm f/2.8L mkii. But I'm also interested in the new Sigma 24-70mm f/2... but maybe that isn't sharp wide open and you wind up having to stop it down to f/2.8 anyway.

Here's the rub though... I don't use the 24-105 that often. Maybe it is because it isn't that sharp, maybe I just don't like the focal length, maybe it is because I don't want to have to bounce flash. It's a mystery and investing $2000 in a lens that I don't use that often seems like a poor use of resources.

If I can sell the 24-105 for $700, then I'll have around $1600 which is spitting distance as far as I'm concerned.

Canon 85mm f/1.8 USM. This is the other option. I was thinking about getting the 135mm f/2L before I found the 85mm for $275. I like portraiture a lot, but I also have a baby on the way and I think 135mm on the full frame will be too long. I'm not that fond of the near 3 ft I have to deal with in terms of minimum focusing distance, but I can work around that for the time being. I also have an itch for the 85mm f/1.2L mkii. But if I sell the 85mm f/1.8 for $400 (which is a touch unlikely), then I'll be at $1200 and I wouldn't call that spitting distance.

Canon 70-200mm f/2.8L IS mkii. I love the lens... it is my favorite... it isn't going anywhere. Occasionally I think I might like a little bit more reach, maybe a 300mm f/4L or a 400mm f/5.6L, but more likely than not, I'll just invest in a Canon 1.4 teleconvertor, mkii. So let's call that $250... so I'll be at $600ish cash and further away from either the 85mm f/1.2L or the 24-70mm f/2.8L mkii.

2nd things second - What do I shoot:
I shoot a bit of everything. Mostly I shoot my daughter in candids and portraits, which is why the 24-70 would be nice as well as the 135mm and the 85 f/1.2. I also shoot sports and action photography, some of which is indoors. So I know the 135 is so much faster for auto focus than the 85, but I question whether I would go to the 135 over the 70-200... and yes it is an extra stop of light, but the iso performance of the mkiii is really quite good, and I can clean it up the grain in lightroom.

I also shoot different events like music recitals, birthday parties, and the like... most of which are indoors.

I don't do real estate as I said before, but $50 for a house doesn't sound like a bad deal (I'm guessing at the pay). I don't do landscape as a focus... but if something looks nice, sure I'll throw the lens to 24mm and I'll take a few shots... maybe use bracketing to do some HDR and then use light room to fix the distortion.

So there it is. Money is burning a hole in my pocket and I don't think I have a REAL need. So, where would the best bang for my buck upgrade be?
 
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neuroanatomist said:
No, you're not done. ;)

I'd get the 135L... (I did, in fact.)

I can probably get the 1.4x and the 135L... but I had a 100mm f/2.8L IS Macro that I sold because my everything from 100-200mm was now the responsibility of the 70-200mm. (I didn't do any macro worth mentioning). Ever since I had the Canon XS with a 18-55, a 75-300, and a 50mm f/1.8, I have heard about the magic bokeh of the 135L. Damn magic!
 
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Your signature STILL show bunch of crap :p

If I'm you:
XS -> 60D -> 5d Mkiii : 18-55 -> 24-105L : 75-300mm -> 55-250mm -> 70-300mm -> 70-200mm f4L USM -> 70-200mm f/2.8L USM -> 70-200mm f/2.8L IS Mkii : 50mm f/1.8 -> 50mm f/1.4 -> 100mm f/2.8L macro -> 85mm f/1.8 USM & 8mm fisheye for kicks.

Your new setup:
24-70 II - 70-200 f2.8 IS II - 85L II - 50 f1.4 - x2 III
 
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jdramirez said:
I like portraiture a lot, but I also have a baby on the way and I think 135mm on the full frame will be too long. I'm not that fond of the near 3 ft I have to deal with in terms of minimum focusing distance, but I can work around that for the time being. I also have an itch for the 85mm f/1.2L mkii.

if you like close focusing, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the 85 II.
 
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Dylan777 said:
Your signature STILL show bunch of crap :p

If I'm you:
XS -> 60D -> 5d Mkiii : 18-55 -> 24-105L : 75-300mm -> 55-250mm -> 70-300mm -> 70-200mm f4L USM -> 70-200mm f/2.8L USM -> 70-200mm f/2.8L IS Mkii : 50mm f/1.8 -> 50mm f/1.4 -> 100mm f/2.8L macro -> 85mm f/1.8 USM & 8mm fisheye for kicks.

Your new setup:
24-70 II - 70-200 f2.8 IS II - 85L II - 50 f1.4 - x2 III

agreed.

If you want to upgrade something, first ask yourself what you CANNOT do with the gear you have. That should help you decide what's next.

Personally, it sounds like you have too much gear but I do understand the desire to upgrade. I'm a gear head, too. Lately, I've been trying to slim down my arsenal.
 
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jdramirez said:
So there it is. Money is burning a hole in my pocket and I don't think I have a REAL need. So, where would the best bang for my buck upgrade be?

You have some excellent equipment. Not sure you really need to upgrade anything. That said, I'm in the same boat and am always asking the same question... :)

jdramirez said:
24-105mm f/4L IS USM[/b]. I think this is the likely candidate for upgrade... 24-70mm f/2.8L mkii

135mm f/2L[/b][/b] before I found the 85mm for $275. I like portraiture a lot, but I also have a baby on the way and I think 135mm on the full frame will be too long.

I purchased a 24-70 2.8 II roughly 6 weeks ago. My intent was to sell my 24-105 after I got the 24-70, but I've found I still use the 24-105 quite a bit. I use the 24-70 mostly indoors and in poor lighting and the 24-105 outdoors and for things like festivals and hiking expeditions. I've tried the 24-70 for these types of events, but I miss the reach and IS of the 105. I might add that I have a exceptionally sharp copy of the 24-105 lens, it is close to the 24-70 in sharpness from 35-70mm, but the 24-70 is quite a bit sharper with less distortion at 24mm.

I agree with those recommending a 135L. I also own a 70-200 2.8 II, and as much as I love it, I tend to use the 135L more. The 70-200 is a heavy beast and I tend to use it mostly indoors these days. I prefer the 135L as a carry around lens due to its small size and lack of white paint. The 135 and the 24-105 with a 1.4III extender have become my primary outdoor, day outing kit.

I borrowed a 70-300L recently for a trip and really fell in love with that lens for travel. Its next on my personal lens wish list.
 
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Dylan777 said:
Your signature STILL show bunch of crap :p

If I'm you:
XS -> 60D -> 5d Mkiii : 18-55 -> 24-105L : 75-300mm -> 55-250mm -> 70-300mm -> 70-200mm f4L USM -> 70-200mm f/2.8L USM -> 70-200mm f/2.8L IS Mkii : 50mm f/1.8 -> 50mm f/1.4 -> 100mm f/2.8L macro -> 85mm f/1.8 USM & 8mm fisheye for kicks.

Your new setup:
24-70 II - 70-200 f2.8 IS II - 85L II - 50 f1.4 - x2 III

What I would do too except I'd go with the 100L over the 85L II (and maybe the 1.4x over the 2x)
 
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Dylan777 said:
Your signature STILL show bunch of crap :p

If I'm you:
XS -> 60D -> 5d Mkiii : 18-55 -> 24-105L : 75-300mm -> 55-250mm -> 70-300mm -> 70-200mm f4L USM -> 70-200mm f/2.8L USM -> 70-200mm f/2.8L IS Mkii : 50mm f/1.8 -> 50mm f/1.4 -> 100mm f/2.8L macro -> 85mm f/1.8 USM & 8mm fisheye for kicks.

Your new setup:
24-70 II - 70-200 f2.8 IS II - 85L II - 50 f1.4 - x2 III

I guess my signature isn't as easy to read as I had hoped.

it shows my upgrade path... not what I presently have.

I step up incrementally as can be seen.
 
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BL said:
jdramirez said:
I like portraiture a lot, but I also have a baby on the way and I think 135mm on the full frame will be too long. I'm not that fond of the near 3 ft I have to deal with in terms of minimum focusing distance, but I can work around that for the time being. I also have an itch for the 85mm f/1.2L mkii.

if you like close focusing, you're going to be sorely disappointed with the 85 II.
I saw that... 3 ft. I can live with it for the quality and then crop in post.
 
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I'm of the mind that you buy gear based on what you feel you can't do. I don't upgrade simply for the sake of upgrading.

So you have money burning a hole in your pocket but have you considered upgrading your savings account? Maybe upgrade your kids college tuition fund? Just a thought...maybe you have those things locked up already.

Of course there's always the keep what you have and upgrade your photography option. I don't recall ever seeing your work posted so I don't know if you need this option or not.

I'm not being facetious about this either. These should be serious considerations for us all.

I would recommend downgrading you sig though. It's confusing and not very useful to know what you used to have but don't have anymore. Just show what you currently have.
 
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tog13 said:
You could try something a little different: pick up another used Rebel for $400 and then get it converted to infrared. I did that with my 10D and I've had decent fun with it.
would I use it to hunt the deadliest prey, man?

I wouldn't mind the predator style dreadlocks, but the face leaves much to be desired.
 
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agierke said:
I'm of the mind that you buy gear based on what you feel you can't do. I don't upgrade simply for the sake of upgrading.

So you have money burning a hole in your pocket but have you considered upgrading your savings account? Maybe upgrade your kids college tuition fund? Just a thought...maybe you have those things locked up already.

Of course there's always the keep what you have and upgrade your photography option. I don't recall ever seeing your work posted so I don't know if you need this option or not.

I'm not being facetious about this either. These should be serious considerations for us all.

I would recommend downgrading you sig though. It's confusing and not very useful to know what you used to have but don't have anymore. Just show what you currently have.

I like learning piece meal. I'd be bored in a photography class though I openly admit I still have a great deal to learn.

as for the signature... I think the path to the destination is far more intriguing than the destination... but we can just differ on that point.
 
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