Which Canon lens is most in need of updating.
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#1. I want to say the 400f5.6, except that it is still a top performer, so it's hard to say "it needs updating" when it's still the best at what it does.
But I'll take it anyway, the 400f5.6 needs to be updated to the 400f5.6IS.
#2. The 50mm f1.4 needs to be replaced. It's just a non-starter on this market.
#3. I'll just go ahead and say that the flaws in the 85f1.2 are long overdue for a fix, that lens needs some TLC.
But I'll take it anyway, the 400f5.6 needs to be updated to the 400f5.6IS.
#2. The 50mm f1.4 needs to be replaced. It's just a non-starter on this market.
#3. I'll just go ahead and say that the flaws in the 85f1.2 are long overdue for a fix, that lens needs some TLC.
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I find Canon´s lens lineup to be pretty good. The ones I want is (with Otus-matching optical performance):
50mm f1.2L -> 50mm f1.2L IS
85mm f1.2L II -> 85mm f1.2L IS
135mm f2.0L -> 135mm f2.0L IS
All weather sealed.
50mm f1.2L -> 50mm f1.2L IS
85mm f1.2L II -> 85mm f1.2L IS
135mm f2.0L -> 135mm f2.0L IS
All weather sealed.
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9VIII said:
The 50/1.4 is consistently among the top 10 best-selling dSLR lenses on Amazon, so clearly it's far from a 'non-starter in the market'. So, while I agree it's a lens a lot of people want to see updated, there's a very logical reason for Canon to believe it doesn't need to be replaced.
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neuroanatomist said:
And it's consistently still in use by wedding photographers for lower light context and detail shots--such as in-laws and friends.
But it is long in the tooth and due. I just don't see it maintaining bargain status with any significant update.
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I think it's the ef 135mm f2.0 L for the oldest prime design which could do with a refresh.
I think the ef 180mm L macro is as ancient as the hills and could really do with some advancement.
The ef 50mm f1.2 L was an odd ball from inception, while it's not as old as other designs here...it could really do with some sharper optics wide open.
I think the ef 180mm L macro is as ancient as the hills and could really do with some advancement.
The ef 50mm f1.2 L was an odd ball from inception, while it's not as old as other designs here...it could really do with some sharper optics wide open.
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neuroanatomist said:
I have the weird theory that the 50/1.4 is still a top 10 best seller, because the same few thousands of people who loved it will break it just after warranty ended and now they have to buy a new one, while cursing Canon for not updating it yet. Come on Canon, get your glASSes together and give us what we want.
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While we saw a lot of interesting zoom announcements and replacements - except for the 35L II - I really think it's "prime time" now:
I have no preference of the chronological order but I'd like to see new versions of
Disclaimer: wider aperture, IS, better AF and mechanical built are always welcome. I am not fixated on the Roman number "II"
If Canon could manage to work through that list in less than two years I'd be pleased - but also very surprised
And:
I have no preference of the chronological order but I'd like to see new versions of
- 50/1.4
- 85/1.8
- 135/2.0L
- 20/2.8
Disclaimer: wider aperture, IS, better AF and mechanical built are always welcome. I am not fixated on the Roman number "II"
If Canon could manage to work through that list in less than two years I'd be pleased - but also very surprised
And:
Nope! not hereneuroanatomist said:...
I have the weird theory that everyone clamoring for an updated 50/1.4 is actually an alterego of ahsanford.
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neuroanatomist said:
How would you have the MP-E 65mm f/2.8 updated? I don't own this one yet, but I am impressed with it's range and sharpness.
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neuroanatomist said:arcer said:
I have the weird theory that everyone clamoring for an updated 50/1.4 is actually an alterego of ahsanford.
Haha, yup. Actually, not here, I'm just one that wants him to shut up ;P
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chrysoberyl said:
You're right, it's a good lens in its current form. It could use modern coatings, as some contrast is lost to internal ghosting, particularly since it's often used with flash and that sometimes means specular highlights. The tripod ring could be s bit smoother.
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I'm pretty happy on both the tele and wide ends of my lens collection. It is the mid focal lengths that are a bit weak. My list is:
1) EF 200 f/2L
2) EF 85 f/1.8
3) EF TS-E 90 f/2.8
I rarely use 50mm (I like 40 better) so any of those would never appear on my list. The Tilt-Shift was added simply to have a third in my list although it could have easily been the 45 instead of the 90. I see the 135 f/2 showing up in previous comments, but I'm pretty happy with it as is.
1) EF 200 f/2L
2) EF 85 f/1.8
3) EF TS-E 90 f/2.8
I rarely use 50mm (I like 40 better) so any of those would never appear on my list. The Tilt-Shift was added simply to have a third in my list although it could have easily been the 45 instead of the 90. I see the 135 f/2 showing up in previous comments, but I'm pretty happy with it as is.
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My two cents:
1. The EF 50mm f/1.4 USM, a la ahsanford's EF 50mm f/1.something IS USM.
That is beside the point of a new EF 50mm f/1.4L USM to compete with the new uber-50mm f/1.4, which are in a separate class than the 50mm f/1.2L USM.
2. The 85mm f/1.8 USM. Its a good lens, but the market is moving forward, and people want IS.
3. The 400mm f/5.6 USM. The competition is pressing hard in this segment. A cheap 400mm f/5.6 IS USM would help Canon on this front.
I can see Canon upgrading the 14mm f/2.8L before at least one of those. Its last on the list of ultra-wide lenses to be upgraded, there's competition, the IQ could be improved, and its old enough.
Next on the list would be the 28mm f/1.8 & 20mm f/2.8. The competition is moving forward with lenses in those focal lengths, 28mm is about normal for APS-C cameras, and bringing those primes into the digital era is good for Canon's image & PR.
1. The EF 50mm f/1.4 USM, a la ahsanford's EF 50mm f/1.something IS USM.
That is beside the point of a new EF 50mm f/1.4L USM to compete with the new uber-50mm f/1.4, which are in a separate class than the 50mm f/1.2L USM.
2. The 85mm f/1.8 USM. Its a good lens, but the market is moving forward, and people want IS.
3. The 400mm f/5.6 USM. The competition is pressing hard in this segment. A cheap 400mm f/5.6 IS USM would help Canon on this front.
I can see Canon upgrading the 14mm f/2.8L before at least one of those. Its last on the list of ultra-wide lenses to be upgraded, there's competition, the IQ could be improved, and its old enough.
Next on the list would be the 28mm f/1.8 & 20mm f/2.8. The competition is moving forward with lenses in those focal lengths, 28mm is about normal for APS-C cameras, and bringing those primes into the digital era is good for Canon's image & PR.
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Updates for the following lenses:
1) 100 f/2 (with IS please)
2) 50 f/1.4 (with or without IS)
3) 28 f/1.8
1) 100 f/2 (with IS please)
2) 50 f/1.4 (with or without IS)
3) 28 f/1.8
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Antono Refa said:
I can't. They probably sell tens of 14 f2.8's not even hundreds. It isn't worth upgrading even though in my experience it is the worst performing L lens I have ever used. Add in the fact that the 11-24 is a stunning optic that raised the bar on ultra wides and the market for the 14 prime got even smaller.
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1. 50mm f/2.5 Compact Macro (1987 design!)
2. 28-300L actually, a smaller 24-200 full frame non-L superzoom would be a great seller
3. 50mm f/1.2L (love the lens, but it could certainly be better)
2. 28-300L actually, a smaller 24-200 full frame non-L superzoom would be a great seller
3. 50mm f/1.2L (love the lens, but it could certainly be better)
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AFAIK the 85mm F/1.8 is the lens used by DPreview in their camera's sharpness comparison, so Canon has to update it to get better overall results.
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